Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . .

[165bows]

Today is the one-year anniversary of the Ime Udoka stuff coming out btw

Might be a little over the one year anniversary of that lol.

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Not sure about the Hornets, but I agree with the overall point.

Don’t the Thunder already have a million guards?

Don't really know much about their roster but their team could probably use more shooting (have Isaiah Joe, added Bertans) and a few veterans.

Hield for salary and Joe isn't too crazy an idea - but they've got SGA, just signed Vasilije Micic to an MLE deal, drafted Cason Wallace, Andrew Wiggins was solid but prob gets dumped already due to roster issues, Lou Dort and Giddey as similar 2-3 types, Oladipo waiting to get cut.

Could happen but I see the Hornets a lot more sensible, just Rozier and a bunch of flotsam and jetsam.

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Not sure about the Hornets, but I agree with the overall point.

He makes a ton of sense for the Magic, who desperately need outside shooting.

Maybe. But they also drafted Caleb Houstan last year and Jett Howard this year (11th pick overall) to provide that shooting. And they can afford to wait for them to develop since they're not contending anytime soon. And in the short term, they also signed Ingles.

Lakers I think make the most sense for Hield. They desperately need shooting. They're trying to maximize their roster in the short term since Lebron doesn't have much time left where he'll still be performing at an all-star level.

They can afford to pay the $ Hield wants on an extension since they only have 2 guys (AD, Lebron) making more than $20 mil long term (assuming Russell would be headed out in the deal).

Perhaps Hield to Lakers, Russell to a 3rd team and the 3rd teams sends assets to Indy..

Not sure who would want Russell, though..possibly Miami if they can't get Dame..

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Not sure about the Hornets, but I agree with the overall point.

He makes a ton of sense for the Magic, who desperately need outside shooting.

Maybe. But they also drafted Caleb Houstan last year and Jett Howard this year (11th pick overall) to provide that shooting. And they can afford to wait for them to develop since they're not contending anytime soon. And in the short term, they also signed Ingles.

Lakers I think make the most sense for Hield. They desperately need shooting. They're trying to maximize their roster in the short term since Lebron doesn't have much time left where he'll still be performing at an all-star level.

They can afford to pay the $ Hield wants on an extension since they only have 2 guys (AD, Lebron) making more than $20 mil long term (assuming Russell would be headed out in the deal).

Perhaps Hield to Lakers, Russell to a 3rd team and the 3rd teams sends assets to Indy..

Not sure who would want Russell, though..possibly Miami if they can't get Dame..

Houston and Howard wouldn’t stop the Magic from going after Hield. They want to compete for a playoff spot this season, so they more than likely want an actual established shooter, and Hield is one of the best high volume shooters ever.

The Heat would never trade for Russell, he’s the anti Heat player.

[MeanGeraldGreen]

Letssss gooo, I choose to believe this joke of a Twitter account.

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[Dogen]

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Well, they did hashtag #Sources so I guess it's gotta be legit.

[GoGreen]

I would love Hield but I don't see any way it happens unless there's 3 or 4 way team deal. Pacers won't just take Malcolm straight up and we'll need a ball handler if he goes.

[Celts17Pride]

I would love Hield but I don't see any way it happens unless there's 3 or 4 way team deal. Pacers won't just take Malcolm straight up and we'll need a ball handler if he goes.

Celtics have D White, Pritchard, Banton and Tatum to handle the ball. There are about 1,000 vet point guards available at the vet min.

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I would love Hield but I don't see any way it happens unless there's 3 or 4 way team deal. Pacers won't just take Malcolm straight up and we'll need a ball handler if he goes.

Celtics have D White, Pritchard, Banton and Tatum to handle the ball. There are about 1,000 vet point guards available at the vet min.

Banton has basically no NBA experience, though. Pritchard is a shooter but hasn't been proven at the NBA level as a ball handler or creator off the dribble - especially not against pressure defense.

There's not as many FA point guards as you think. It's pretty much just Jon Wall (attitude concerns, possibly washed up), Ish Smith (possibly too old, washed up) and Kendrick Nunn (not that good, can't seem to stick on any team he's on, more of a 2 than a 1)..

[Celts17Pride]

I would love Hield but I don't see any way it happens unless there's 3 or 4 way team deal. Pacers won't just take Malcolm straight up and we'll need a ball handler if he goes.

Celtics have D White, Pritchard, Banton and Tatum to handle the ball. There are about 1,000 vet point guards available at the vet min.

Banton has basically no NBA experience, though. Pritchard is a shooter but hasn't been proven at the NBA level as a ball handler or creator off the dribble - especially not against pressure defense.

There's not as many FA point guards as you think. It's pretty much just Jon Wall (attitude concerns, possibly washed up), Ish Smith (possibly too old, washed up) and Kendrick Nunn (not that good, can't seem to stick on any team he's on, more of a 2 than a 1)..

I could bring the ball up and pass it to Tatum, Brown, Hield or Porzingis.

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Heres a little trade I wrote, note for note. MAlcolm Brogdan for Tyler Hero.

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Celtics have D White, Pritchard, Banton and Tatum to handle the ball. There are about 1,000 vet point guards available at the vet min.

Banton has basically no NBA experience, though. Pritchard is a shooter but hasn't been proven at the NBA level as a ball handler or creator off the dribble - especially not against pressure defense.

There's not as many FA point guards as you think. It's pretty much just Jon Wall (attitude concerns, possibly washed up), Ish Smith (possibly too old, washed up) and Kendrick Nunn (not that good, can't seem to stick on any team he's on, more of a 2 than a 1)..

I could bring the ball up and pass it to Tatum, Brown, Hield or Porzingis.

Not with NBA defenders pressuring the hell out of you. You'd turn it over every time before getting it across half court. That's what happened when Hauser tried bringing the ball up last season. And that's what has happened countless times over the past 2-3 seasons when we put our garbage time unit in the game..

Like I said before, I'm optimistic about Banton and think him and Pritchard *could* possibly handle the role. And possibly Svi since he has run some point for Ukraine's national team and last season for Charlotte.

With that being said, I think if we did make some type of Brogdon for Hield deal, we would acquire another PG - either in that deal or a different transaction..

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Agree team still needs someone who can bring the ball up. Other team sees you don’t have a reliable ballhandler, they’ll pressure the hell out of your “point guard/forward” after every make. Next thing you know, you’re working with just 10-12 seconds on the clock in the half court.

Having said that, please more reps for Rob as an offensive hub. And to a lesser extent Horford & KP.

[BK_2020]

Celtics have D White, Pritchard, Banton and Tatum to handle the ball. There are about 1,000 vet point guards available at the vet min.

Banton has basically no NBA experience, though. Pritchard is a shooter but hasn't been proven at the NBA level as a ball handler or creator off the dribble - especially not against pressure defense.

There's not as many FA point guards as you think. It's pretty much just Jon Wall (attitude concerns, possibly washed up), Ish Smith (possibly too old, washed up) and Kendrick Nunn (not that good, can't seem to stick on any team he's on, more of a 2 than a 1)..

I could bring the ball up and pass it to Tatum, Brown, Hield or Porzingis.

You'll never get free to receive the inbounds pass.

[Celts17Pride]

The Celtics’ social media team has posted plenty of pictures and videos of these workouts and players’ Boston arrivals. But there has been no sign of guard Malcolm Brogdon.

Brogdon, of course, was hampered by a forearm strain during the conference finals last season. Then in June he was part of the first iteration of the Kristaps Porzingis trade before that deal crumbled and Marcus Smart ended up in the three-team transaction instead.

Brogdon and his camp have been quiet this summer, and members of the Celtics front office have mostly avoided or deflected questions about the Sixth Man of the Year. Something about the situation just feels slightly off.

But the indications I’ve gotten are that the Celtics are not considering trading Brogdon any more than they are considering trading any other player. His sour ending to last year aside, it is worth remembering Brogdon’s value to the Celtics last year. And Smart’s departure figures to only increase his role.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/09/21/sports/brad-stevenss-soccer-investment-malcolm-brogdons-status-other-celtics-nuggets/

[GoCeltics123]

The Celtics’ social media team has posted plenty of pictures and videos of these workouts and players’ Boston arrivals. But there has been no sign of guard Malcolm Brogdon.

Brogdon, of course, was hampered by a forearm strain during the conference finals last season. Then in June he was part of the first iteration of the Kristaps Porzingis trade before that deal crumbled and Marcus Smart ended up in the three-team transaction instead.

Brogdon and his camp have been quiet this summer, and members of the Celtics front office have mostly avoided or deflected questions about the Sixth Man of the Year. Something about the situation just feels slightly off.

But the indications I’ve gotten are that the Celtics are not considering trading Brogdon any more than they are considering trading any other player. His sour ending to last year aside, it is worth remembering Brogdon’s value to the Celtics last year. And Smart’s departure figures to only increase his role.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/09/21/sports/brad-stevenss-soccer-investment-malcolm-brogdons-status-other-celtics-nuggets/

Kind of a non-update here imo. Like I guess them not being desperate to trade him is a good sign? But not a lot of info

Could mean anything

[MeanGeraldGreen]

Brogdon and his camp have been quiet this summer, and members of the Celtics front office have mostly avoided or deflected questions about the Sixth Man of the Year. Something about the situation just feels slightly off.

If Himmelsbach says it, then it’s the case. He’s so by far the most reputable Celtics guy there is, now that Mark Murphy is retired.

Even the next part, it’s intentionally worded in a way that is pretty vague lol. They’re not considering trading him any more than they’re considering trading Pritchard/etc? Okay lol.

But the indications I’ve gotten are that the Celtics are not considering trading Brogdon any more than they are considering trading any other player.

[BK_2020]

Is Brogdon usually really loud in summers? What's the deal here?

[GoCeltics123]

Brogdon and his camp have been quiet this summer, and members of the Celtics front office have mostly avoided or deflected questions about the Sixth Man of the Year. Something about the situation just feels slightly off.

If Himmelsbach says it, then it’s the case. He’s so by far the most reputable Celtics guy there is, now that Mark Murphy is retired.

Even the next part, it’s intentionally worded in a way that is pretty vague lol. They’re not considering trading him any more than they’re considering trading Pritchard/etc? Okay lol.

But the indications I’ve gotten are that the Celtics are not considering trading Brogdon any more than they are considering trading any other player.

Well again, like I've said, there are two questions here. Is he mad enough to the point he won't play or will sabotage the team, or he is too unhealthy/will pull a Scottie Pippen and **** the team over? If that's the case, he should've been gone by now.

This article didn't say much besides the fact that they aren't desperate to trade him right now. That's really it.

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Brogdon and his camp have been quiet this summer, and members of the Celtics front office have mostly avoided or deflected questions about the Sixth Man of the Year. Something about the situation just feels slightly off.

If Himmelsbach says it, then it’s the case. He’s so by far the most reputable Celtics guy there is, now that Mark Murphy is retired.

Even the next part, it’s intentionally worded in a way that is pretty vague lol. They’re not considering trading him any more than they’re considering trading Pritchard/etc? Okay lol.

But the indications I’ve gotten are that the Celtics are not considering trading Brogdon any more than they are considering trading any other player.

Well, that part of the article is essentially saying they're not considering trading Brogdon anymore than they're considering trading Tatum. In other words, they're not looking to trade Brogdon.

I mean, obviously Tatum is untouchable. And JB can't be traded for 1 year. And KP might still be under a trade restriction. But the article is implying that Brogdon is just as likely to get traded as D-White, Rob or Al..