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Post#1981 » by Andrew McCeltic » Wed Feb 11, 2015 11:57 pm

Banks2Pierce wrote:Ainge was interviewed on Toucher and Rich and said he's heading over to Europe through the All Star Break. Find that pretty interesting with a week to go before the deadline. I know that you can still do just about everything you need to as far as communication with your staff/other GMs, but it's not the same comfort level.


More interesting to me that he's going to Europe to scout guys.. has he done that before? Hezonja, Porzingis could be nice pick-ups..

Anyway, sounds like the buzz around the league right now is for Afflalo, so he's ahead of Thornton in the pecking order. And no one has a real reason to trade for Prince, except to insure you get him instead of your rival. I could see us sending him to TOR for a second-rounder..
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Post#1982 » by rmal8852 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:01 am

No Prince buyout, unless we can be assured he doesn't go to the Clips.
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Post#1983 » by Higgs Boston » Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:12 am

Banks2Pierce wrote:Ainge was interviewed on Toucher and Rich and said he's heading over to Europe through the All Star Break. Find that pretty interesting with a week to go before the deadline. I know that you can still do just about everything you need to as far as communication with your staff/other GMs, but it's not the same comfort level.


Ainge should select Hernangomez in second round, he is a safe bet practically without risk, he will do a role like zeller, koufos, leonard or similar, that at minimum, is good as second round player. I hope ainge selects him and will not make a mistake as in the past with pekovic, asik, marc gasol, gobert, all these players would be decent bench C at minimum (i didn't expect their current performance and status in the league, but these players were a good options, especially in second round), but he didn't select any of them.
I think ainge is very bad in second rounds and european players.
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Post#1984 » by Andrew McCeltic » Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:29 am

Watch the Kings now that Karl's coach- who's in charge there? how much personnel influence does Karl have? does he like Mclemore/Stauskas? Does he want any of the players he coached in Denver? About a week to figure it out..
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Post#1985 » by reload141 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:59 am

Max offer sheet to Butler, draft Hezonja, move up in the draft to get WCS (they have him slipping to late lottery)

That would be ideal.
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Post#1986 » by Patsfan1081 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:28 am

A celtics fan suggester a Bradley for Schroeder deal on the Hawks page, I wanted to now the value of Schroeder also, but now I'm glad I didn't ask. This was one of the nicer responses.

So, someone comes in, completely decides that he's too important to be bothered with the 10 minutes worth of clicking on a few threads to ensure that his offer isn't completely insulting, and then gets butthurt when he's called out on it. Now that LAL and NYK are down, BOS might have overtaken all others as the most obnoxious fan base there is - and I'd cite this would be cited as a prime case for proof.[/quote
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Post#1987 » by reload141 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:51 am

Enes Kanter on the block... Any takers? If so what for?
Should be a 20/10 center, young... But need a real defensive PF next to him (which we obviously don't have)
Any in the draft? Porzingis? Is WCS agile enough to be a tall defending PF?
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Post#1988 » by Pacino62 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:03 am

reload141 wrote:Enes Kanter on the block... Any takers? If so what for?
Should be a 20/10 center, young... But need a real defensive PF next to him (which we obviously don't have)
Any in the draft? Porzingis? Is WCS agile enough to be a tall defending PF?


I would 100% go after him and Thomas (Phoenix wanting to balance roster (no SH#$) according to Wiretap). Not sure what I want to give up from the core group because they are playing so well. However, I think both of these guys have true breakout potential. I like the idea of a Smart, Thomas and Bradley backcourt. I also like the idea of Zeller, KO, Sully and Kanter as your bigs. Outside of that, would a hodgepodge of what is left after Smart, Bradley, Zeller, KO and Sully plus draft picks be enough to bring those 2 players back?

Phoenix is looking for scoring and rebounding in the front court. Does Bass fit? Bass and a few seconds for Thomas works. Ryan hangs up the phone more than likely. Anyone do KO or Zeller for Thomas if you knew we were getting Kanter back in a separate deal?

Utah would probably want picks. They aren't winning anything. We could definitely get in on Kanter if we wanted to open up the war chest.
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Post#1989 » by Florida celtic » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:17 am

Who says no?

Celtics get:

Isaiah Thomas, Archie Goodwin, KG

NETs get:

plumlee (tax relief)

Suns get:

Bass, prince, Evan Turner, bogdanovic
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Post#1990 » by Pacino62 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:35 am

Florida celtic wrote:Who says no?

Celtics get:

Isaiah Thomas, Archie Goodwin, KG

NETs get:

plumlee (tax relief)

Suns get:

Bass, prince, Evan Turner, bogdanovic



Certainly not me...lol

I think it gives the Suns great vet depth for a playoff run. However, they give up a solid player and a nice prospect for no insurance next season besides Turner. Got to be some picks in there as well.
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Post#1991 » by Avalanche » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:45 am

Not a huge fan of Kanter and he doesn't really fit alongside our existing bigs... But he's young, he puts up solid numbers and Ainge could easily swoop in if they push him out the door

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Post#1992 » by Edug27 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:28 pm

Avalanche wrote:Not a huge fan of Kanter and he doesn't really fit alongside our existing bigs... But he's young, he puts up solid numbers and Ainge could easily swoop in if they push him out the door

"Opportunistic"


Our existing bigs are not our further bigs.
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Post#1993 » by Shamrock » Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:41 pm

Not interested in Kanter, not a rim protector and he's about to be paid. Pass
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Post#1994 » by 165bows » Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:47 pm

Patsfan1081 wrote:A celtics fan suggester a Bradley for Schroeder deal on the Hawks page, I wanted to now the value of Schroeder also, but now I'm glad I didn't ask. This was one of the nicer responses.

So, someone comes in, completely decides that he's too important to be bothered with the 10 minutes worth of clicking on a few threads to ensure that his offer isn't completely insulting, and then gets butthurt when he's called out on it. Now that LAL and NYK are down, BOS might have overtaken all others as the most obnoxious fan base there is - and I'd cite this would be cited as a prime case for proof.[/quote

Where is that pet peeve thread, for some reason that is just on my nerves right now. When someone makes a suggestion that causes someone to fly off the handle is something I don't understand. They can't say no, or laugh it off, or even hell no? They have to be insulted by it? I don't get it.

Somewhere in here I suggested they might be interested in Bradley for the Nets' pick. They'd get an ulcer, sounds like.
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Post#1995 » by brackdan70 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:34 pm

reload141 wrote:Enes Kanter on the block... Any takers? If so what for?
Should be a 20/10 center, young... But need a real defensive PF next to him (which we obviously don't have)
Any in the draft? Porzingis? Is WCS agile enough to be a tall defending PF?


I haven't watched him enough, but he is a 22 year old producing very well on the offensive end. As an RFA, he might be relatively cheap on the trade block....provided we are willing to match offer sheets next year. The narrative is that he is not a good defender, and the advanced stats support that. IDK, I wouldn't give up too much for him, but I think there is a lot of upside still with him.
Can he become a serviceable defender at the 5? Is is skill set a little redundant to Sully?
I think if we did get him, would still be worth getting a defensive center in the draft or free agency.

We have trade exception so could give Utah picks and 0 salary for him which might be nice for Utah. I would give 2 of Cleveland pick / Philly picks / Minny pick/s for him.
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Post#1996 » by Edug27 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:01 pm

I wouldn't mind a move for Kanter. I don't know what kind of money he's looking for next summer, so they could be a factor. He could be a Brook Lopez player going forward. Scoring 7 footers do not grow on trees. If he went to a college for 4 years and was in this years draft, where would he be picked?

Smart / _____
Bradley / Young
_____ / Crowder
_____ / Olynyk
Kanter / Zeller
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Post#1997 » by humblebum » Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:30 pm

Kanter seems like a guy to keep an eye on. But Zeller looks like a rough composite of his game, less bulky, lower ceiling but similar skill set and "court impact". And cost controlled for another year, or possibly two.

If you have a deal to move Zeller (say for a Reggie Jackson), I can understand going after someone like Kanter to provide that interior game. But then you'd be getting into having to pay on potential for two kids who might not live up to their $$$... I think Jackson would be a better target as a guy pending RFA.
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Post#1998 » by Pacino62 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:02 pm

I just don't understand why anyone would think that a 22 year old with true 20/10 potential and built like a brick sh$& house (he is HUGE) isn't worth a shot. He's demanded a trade. It's the Jazz. What are you really giving up for him. If it's about acquiring talent and potential. He is talented with loads of potential. Don't understand the hate.
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Post#1999 » by humblebum » Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:11 pm

Pacino62 wrote:I just don't understand why anyone would think that a 22 year old with true 20/10 potential and built like a brick sh$& house (he is HUGE) isn't worth a shot. He's demanded a trade. It's the Jazz. What are you really giving up for him. If it's about acquiring talent and potential. He is talented with loads of potential. Don't understand the hate.


Worth a shot to prove he's a 12-15 million dollar player? That's the question. I don't know what the market for him is shaping up to be... but if that's the type of money he's going to be looking for, I don't know if he's the right player to give up any type of reasonably valuable asset for.

It's not hate... How much better is he than Zeller? Definitely better, but 3-4 times better? I like the player, but I don't love the player. For the right price I'd be in on giving Kanter a shot, but I'm not really well informed on the potential market for his services.
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Post#2000 » by Pacino62 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:28 pm

humblebum wrote:
Pacino62 wrote:I just don't understand why anyone would think that a 22 year old with true 20/10 potential and built like a brick sh$& house (he is HUGE) isn't worth a shot. He's demanded a trade. It's the Jazz. What are you really giving up for him. If it's about acquiring talent and potential. He is talented with loads of potential. Don't understand the hate.


Worth a shot to prove he's a 12-15 million dollar player? That's the question. I don't know what the market for him is shaping up to be... but if that's the type of money he's going to be looking for, I don't know if he's the right player to give up any type of reasonably valuable asset for.

It's not hate... How much better is he than Zeller? Definitely better, but 3-4 times better? I like the player, but I don't love the player. For the right price I'd be in on giving Kanter a shot, but I'm not really well informed on the potential market for his services.


I didn't interpret your comments as hate Humble. In fact, your take is reasonable and makes sense. However, people writing him off is absurd.

I am not educated on his market value either. I do think he is a substantial upgrade over Zeller (who I love). He is far more explosive. He's sneaky fast. I wouldn't want to see a cost controlled Zeller go anywhere though. A Center combo of those 2 would be devastating.
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