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Re: Rumor: Sac preparing trade package for Rondo 

Post#21 » by Andrew McCeltic » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:32 pm

Ok but we aren't obligated to trade Rondo, or to take the first offer that comes along..


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Re: Rumor: Sac preparing trade package for Rondo 

Post#22 » by pac213up » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:36 pm

I am a Rondo guy but I would give strong consideration to a deal like this. With that said I do not take any of these rumors very seriously.
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Re: Rumor: Sac preparing trade package for Rondo 

Post#23 » by nasbahceltic » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:38 pm

I always felt like Sac would be the obvious trading partner for Rondo. Losing team tired of being in the lottery with a new ownership group looking to make a splash (and no Rudy Gay doesn't count). Mclemore and their 2014 unprotected would work for me I guess as long as that pick is somewhere in the top 6.
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Re: Rumor: Sac preparing trade package for Rondo 

Post#24 » by humblebum » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:41 pm

Any team that offers a good young player, 2-3 valuable picks/prospects, and is willing to take Wallace while not giving us back deadweight contracts will have Rondo no problem.

But I agree with pac... Hard to take this rumor serious. With that said, Sac targeting Rondo makes a ton of sense for them.
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Re: Rumor: Sac preparing trade package for Rondo 

Post#25 » by GreenMachine » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:43 pm

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Celts17Pride wrote:Ainge has pretty much said that if you don't see another star coming back in a trade for Rondo then it's pretty much a made up rumor. Ainge is not trading Rondo unless he gets a star back i.e. Rondo for Chris Paul, Rondo for S. Curry. Ainge could change his mind but that is what he said when it was reported the Knicks were interested.


You're not getting a superstar in return for Rajon Rondo. Neither are we going to get equal value for him. Players like Westbrook, Chris Paul, Stephen Curry etc are not happening so let's end all that talk. I don't even think we would get Drummond for Rondo.


Exactly. Which is why we should end all the trade Rondo talk as well. This package really isn't all that great anyway. Thomas is nothing to get excited about. Mclemore might be... someday. The picks will not be lotto and we already have enough non-lotto picks the next few years. We will be looking to trade picks, not get more. I'll pass.
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Re: Rumor: Sac preparing trade package for Rondo 

Post#26 » by GreenMachine » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:44 pm

humblebum wrote:Any team that offers a good young player, 2-3 valuable picks/prospects, and is willing to take Wallace while not giving us back deadweight contracts will have Rondo no problem.

But I agree with pac... Hard to take this rumor serious. With that said, Sac targeting Rondo makes a ton of sense for them.


We are NOT giving up a pick... let alone Rondo just to get out of Wallace's deal. Won't happen. Has DA EVER done such a thing?
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Re: Rumor: Sac preparing trade package for Rondo 

Post#27 » by humblebum » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:51 pm

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humblebum wrote:Any team that offers a good young player, 2-3 valuable picks/prospects, and is willing to take Wallace while not giving us back deadweight contracts will have Rondo no problem.

But I agree with pac... Hard to take this rumor serious. With that said, Sac targeting Rondo makes a ton of sense for them.


We are NOT giving up a pick... let alone Rondo just to get out of Wallace's deal. Won't happen. Has DA EVER done such a thing?


I could easily see Ainge giving up a pick to get rid of Wallace for a guy like Asik but not just to get out of paying him.

But this deal with Sac isn't about getting rid of Wallace, though it's a very appealing aspect of the deal.

The deal is primarily about getting McLemore and two more firsts. Thomas and Thompson are solid guys who Stevens can plug in who make this team that is already playing decent ball without Rondo who both make this team better.

So overall it makes the team better right away (considering Rondo hasn't played), it adds a nice young prospect, increases salary flexibility, and adds more future assets. It would pretty much be a no brainer package.
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Re: Rumor: Sac preparing trade package for Rondo 

Post#28 » by StojkoVrankovic » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:57 pm

So the Kings, one of the worst teams in the league, offer a package of;

-a midget PG who is scoring well this season and only has a year left on his contract. A player who quite a few Sac fans think is better suited at 6th man

-a top SG from the worst draft in history who might contribute in a few years and also plays the same position that we already have Bradley

-filler garbage

-draft picks

If we are lucky Danny can then package those parts for a player of Rondo's caliber, round and round we go
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Re: Rumor: Sac preparing trade package for Rondo 

Post#29 » by chum » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:01 pm

I would do it, but it seems like it would have to be a draft night trade unless they gave up their 2017 and 2019 picks. They currently owe Cleveland their 2014 first that is top 12 protected this year and top 10 protected in 2015-2017. Also, I wouldn't be concerned with unloading Wallace. If this trade were to happen there is no way the Celtics would be ready to compete before Wallace expires.
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Re: Rumor: Sac preparing trade package for Rondo 

Post#30 » by Andrew McCeltic » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:05 pm

Has anyone looked at Mclemore's numbers this year? Yeah, it's the first 20 games of his rookie season, but they are ugly..

Keep in mind we're playing well enough that this isn't a trade that strengthens the tank.

Again, draft night is a possibility- if Mclemore has played well enough to up his value, if we've found a good Bradley deal, and if SAC has a high pick they're willing to part with.. then you can think about it. But right now it's just nonsense, it's a bunch of shiny parts..

Happy for SAC fans, though, to have good management and ownership again.
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Re: Rumor: Sac preparing trade package for Rondo 

Post#31 » by humblebum » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:07 pm

StojkoVrankovic wrote:So the Kings, one of the worst teams in the league, offer a package of;

-a midget PG who is scoring well this season and only has a year left on his contract. A player who quite a few Sac fans think is better suited at 6th man

-a top SG from the worst draft in history who might contribute in a few years and also plays the same position that we already have Bradley

-filler garbage

-draft picks

If we are lucky Danny can then package those parts for a player of Rondo's caliber, round and round we go


Ainge is an excellent drafter. He has a ton of picks. It's more than slightly hyperbolic to say it's a long shot that he'll find a player of Rondo's caliber with at least one of those picks. Heck Sullinger has a great chance to be Rondo caliber and with the way Stevens coaches these boys up he could have guys like Crawford balling at an All Star caliber level.
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Re: Rumor: Sac preparing trade package for Rondo 

Post#32 » by No35 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:08 pm

No, just NO.
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Re: Rumor: Sac preparing trade package for Rondo 

Post#33 » by GreenMachine » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:09 pm

StojkoVrankovic wrote:If we are lucky Danny can then package those parts for a player of Rondo's caliber, round and round we go


THIS. A million times, this.

The only way this makes sense is if the pick is top 5 THIS YEAR and I don't think they can trade this years pick... and if they had a top 5 pick... they probably don't make this trade. NO DEAL.
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Re: Rumor: Sac preparing trade package for Rondo 

Post#34 » by StojkoVrankovic » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:12 pm

humblebum wrote:
StojkoVrankovic wrote:So the Kings, one of the worst teams in the league, offer a package of;

-a midget PG who is scoring well this season and only has a year left on his contract. A player who quite a few Sac fans think is better suited at 6th man

-a top SG from the worst draft in history who might contribute in a few years and also plays the same position that we already have Bradley

-filler garbage

-draft picks

If we are lucky Danny can then package those parts for a player of Rondo's caliber, round and round we go


Ainge is an excellent drafter. He has a ton of picks. It's more than slightly hyperbolic to say it's a long shot that he'll find a player of Rondo's caliber with at least one of those picks. Heck Sullinger has a great chance to be Rondo caliber and with the way Stevens coaches these boys up he could have guys like Crawford balling at an All Star caliber level.

Come on Humble, Crawford is gone the second Danny gets anything of value.

I realize a bunch of folks want this team to suck for the chance to draft some college savior, but we are an Asik trade away from being a nightmare come playoff time. Rondo-AB-Green-Sully-Asik will be a very tough out for anyone.

Danny has done nothing as our GM to suggest he would even consider this, it is practically the complete opposite of what he would actually do.
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Re: Rumor: Sac preparing trade package for Rondo 

Post#35 » by Captain_Caveman » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:14 pm

Can I just re-emphasize how not credible this rumor is? lol

Whether or not Sacto decides to pursue Rondo, this article is almost certainly made up.
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Re: Rumor: Sac preparing trade package for Rondo 

Post#36 » by kenifpassion » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:20 pm

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:How's Mclemore? Haven't watched him play yet. He doesn't seem like a guy we can build around. The 2 first round picks sound tempting though.

Honestly, with all the talk of Rondo getting along with Stevens, I don't think I want to trade Rondo at this point.


the first two round picks would be useless if they'd make into playoffs, probably 17-23th picks and future picks are uncertainty. how many hits-&-offs Boston have made so far? only Avery Bradley and Jared Sullinger are useful from the last 5 years.
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Re: Rumor: Sac preparing trade package for Rondo 

Post#37 » by BRUNiNHO91 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:22 pm

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BRUNiNHO91 wrote:I doubt Ainge wants to trade Rondo for non Stars. The package is actually really good, McLemore will be a stud soon but it would only increase our guard number to 54 and our PF to 37. lol the picks are tempting but Rondo + Cousins is enough to make both be in the 15-20 range at best.


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Well, if they give us their pick from this year(unprotected), I believe this year's pick will be top 10 regardless of how Rondo plays, simply because the West is too good and Rondo will play limited minutes for some time. Of course if you trade for McLemore u ship out Bradley asap for a rookie big with some upside... and start McLemore who was the talent/potential to be an All-Star from what I've seen from him.


If I'm not mistaken, they are currently the 7th worst team in the league. Rondo, Gay and Cousins together for 40 or so games could easily get them to move up 5-6 spots in such a **** year for NBA teams. That would put them outside of the lottery. I'm really not at all confident their pick would be top 10. This is a trade that I think we would prefer to do on draft night.
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