If we keep the pick, Better young wing duo Jackson/Brown or Brown/Tatum?

[return2glory]

Brown/Jackson.

They will be fun to watch together.

Tatum is a better shooter that Jackson. Jackson is the better athlete, quicker, faster, better passer, better rebounder, better handles, better court vision, better on the break, better defender, and a more energy/hussle guy.

[Spin Move]

Brown/Tatum.

Tatum has to bulk up to play the 4, but he's young. he's a great complement to brown actually, who's a hard nosed defender and great athlete but not an elite shot creator that tatum is.

He is not long enough or tall enough to consistently gaurd the 4 and not fast enough to consistantly gaurd the 3 is the concern, time will tell if its valid or not.
Nbadraft.net just did a piece comparing the two, link is below, i am posting the end of it
http://www.nbadraft.net/face-josh-jackson-vs-jayson-tatum


"Potential

Jackson is an unfinished painting. The outline is there and what is already on the canvas is intriguing, but it can either become a masterpiece or just another painting. Jackson scoring well as an athlete and defender in comparison to other prospects. He’ll just need to fine tune other parts of his game in order to fulfill the expectations that have followed him since high school.

Thanks to his role in Duke’s run to end their season, Tatum got a lot of love from scouts after the year. There was a week stretch where his name was regularly mentioned in contention for the number one selection. However, as the draft process went on Tatum has lost some of that momentum. The ready-made package he brings offensively has him likely to be a high-scoring player right away in a good situation.

However, Tatum is much closer to a finished product. He played similarly from high school to his freshman year as a Blue Devil. He can certainly improve, but the ways he impacts games won’t change much. Meanwhile, Jackson has the opportunity to take his game much further than where it currently is. He can also be an impactful player on both ends of the floor. Right now, the league’s best teams have dominant wing players that can play at a high-level on both offense and defense (KD, LeBron, Kawhi). Jackson has more potential than Tatum to become that type of 2-way player in the future.

Edge: Jackson

In the end, Tatum’s transition to the NBA looks predetermined. He’ll be an effective wing scorer that is capable of being an effective top 2-3 option offensively, for a winning team. He has the go to skills to make life difficult for defenders. But, Jackson’s ability to be difference maker both as an offensive and defensive player gives him the upper hand in this head-to-head matchup. Both players will likely go in the top 5 and which team they end up on might be the biggest factor in which of these two develop into the better player down the line.
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[DK-All Day]

Brown / Jackson.

Jackson is better than Tatum. Simple.

[sam_I_am]

Fultz/Simmons.

Do you mean Cedric Simmons on the Spurs? Or the guy who shot 23% and average 8 ppg in summer league?

[ParticleMan]

Brown/Tatum.

Tatum has to bulk up to play the 4, but he's young. he's a great complement to brown actually, who's a hard nosed defender and great athlete but not an elite shot creator that tatum is.

He is not long enough or tall enough to consistently gaurd the 4 and not fast enough to consistantly gaurd the 3 is the concern, time will tell if its valid or not.
Nbadraft.net just did a piece comparing the two, link is below, i am posting the end of it
http://www.nbadraft.net/face-josh-jackson-vs-jayson-tatum


"Potential

Jackson is an unfinished painting. The outline is there and what is already on the canvas is intriguing, but it can either become a masterpiece or just another painting. Jackson scoring well as an athlete and defender in comparison to other prospects. He’ll just need to fine tune other parts of his game in order to fulfill the expectations that have followed him since high school.

Thanks to his role in Duke’s run to end their season, Tatum got a lot of love from scouts after the year. There was a week stretch where his name was regularly mentioned in contention for the number one selection. However, as the draft process went on Tatum has lost some of that momentum. The ready-made package he brings offensively has him likely to be a high-scoring player right away in a good situation.

However, Tatum is much closer to a finished product. He played similarly from high school to his freshman year as a Blue Devil. He can certainly improve, but the ways he impacts games won’t change much. Meanwhile, Jackson has the opportunity to take his game much further than where it currently is. He can also be an impactful player on both ends of the floor. Right now, the league’s best teams have dominant wing players that can play at a high-level on both offense and defense (KD, LeBron, Kawhi). Jackson has more potential than Tatum to become that type of 2-way player in the future.

Edge: Jackson

In the end, Tatum’s transition to the NBA looks predetermined. He’ll be an effective wing scorer that is capable of being an effective top 2-3 option offensively, for a winning team. He has the go to skills to make life difficult for defenders. But, Jackson’s ability to be difference maker both as an offensive and defensive player gives him the upper hand in this head-to-head matchup. Both players will likely go in the top 5 and which team they end up on might be the biggest factor in which of these two develop into the better player down the line.
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in a vacuum i might agree jackson has a slight edge. but i just don't see his scoring ability translate to the nba. his awkward shot where he brings the ball way out in front of him and has a low release, his bullrush drives to the hoop, these things just aren't going to work consistently against nba defenses. being a poor FT shooter means he isn't going to be as aggressive. in the end a 6-8 marcus smart may not be a bad comp -- does everything you want except score efficiently.

in our case, we need someone who can score. playing tatum at the 4 right away won't work. more likely we'd have crowder at the 4 and tatum at the 3. basically i see tatum as a very rich man's gerald green. our best playoff games were with gerald starting, now imagine tatum in gerald's place. tatum needs to refine his offensive game but the fundamentals are all there. it isn't a stretch to say he's going to be an elite scorer. sure he won't do all the other things, but who gives a f. we need scorers, we've already got too many well-rounded guys who can't put the damn ball in the basket.

[KFL]

I want Tatum

[Patsfan81]

I want DSJ

[Grahf]

Jackson. Much better passer, has the speed to run with Brown on the fast break, and he is a better fit on defense too. Tatum is a great prospect but the fit alongside Jaylen is not quite as perfect because they are both iso scorers at heart. I'm sure they'd be fine together, I just feel Jackson is a more natural fit.

[FlatearthZorro]

Tatum. Dude will be a very good 4 when he fills up. Has great frame and a good shot.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Jackson cannot create vs equal athletes or stronger athletes. If you watch a DX video, he looks amazing. But if you watch full games, his issues are more pronounced. Still, he's an amazing prospect and above Wiggins coming into the league, IMO.

Tatum is going to spend a ton of time at the 4 at the next level. 6'9 with an 8'11 reach (possibly higher as he hasn't been measured in a year) and an incredible frame. Averaged 17-7-2 as a third option behind two ball dominant chuckers. As he gains leg strength, his 3 point shot will become more consistent. Solid handle with good vision. I see him as the ideal modern 4.

Overall, I have Tatum 2 and Jackson 3. I think Tatum is the better fit positionally as he's a 3/4 and Jackson is a 2/3 (I have Brown as a 2/3). I value Tatum's shooting and ability to space the floor over Jackson's handle. Would be fine with either, though.

[Spin Move]

That is the hard thing, the 3 guys most of the board are talking about are ranked 3 4 5 on many boads (Jackson Tatum Issac) there are good arguments for all three guys, issac is the rawest but the best fit for the current pieces of the team Jacskon has the most upside but has bad mechanics on his jump shot, Tatum is the most skilled now but has physical limitations that may prevent him from becoming a good defender, all 3 have all star upside, all 3 are valid opinions. I like jackson, he wants to win, I watched all 3 in college (Jackson the most) and he did have some issues getting by some of the top athletes without pics but so does everyone, thats why they are the top athletes, he is FAR more athletic then tatum and there measurements are really close, Tatum has much better footwork and shooting form, Jackson is a much better passer Issac could actually be the shotblocking threat this team needs if he can put on weight, it is going to be an interesting draft.

[ermocrate]

Brown/Hayward

[righterwriter]

Brown at the 2 and J.Jackson at the 3 long term will look really good. Very good defensive players, can improve 3 point shot. 2018 draft can get celtics a really good PG and/or C with Nets + Lakers pick(if conveyed), can then move horford to PF. Gotta give Ainge the benefit of the doubt on this trade tbh.

Brown is not a shooting guard. You have to be able to shoot and defend guards if you are going to play the 2.

[Tiny ball]

Brown at the 2 and J.Jackson at the 3 long term will look really good. Very good defensive players, can improve 3 point shot. 2018 draft can get celtics a really good PG and/or C with Nets + Lakers pick(if conveyed), can then move horford to PF. Gotta give Ainge the benefit of the doubt on this trade tbh.

Brown is not a shooting guard. You have to be able to shoot and defend guards if you are going to play the 2.

He can do both. Plus play a little 3 and 4.

[humbertomakris]

Brown at the 2 and J.Jackson at the 3 long term will look really good. Very good defensive players, can improve 3 point shot. 2018 draft can get celtics a really good PG and/or C with Nets + Lakers pick(if conveyed), can then move horford to PF. Gotta give Ainge the benefit of the doubt on this trade tbh.

Brown is not a shooting guard. You have to be able to shoot and defend guards if you are going to play the 2.

Factor in player development

[righterwriter]

Brown at the 2 and J.Jackson at the 3 long term will look really good. Very good defensive players, can improve 3 point shot. 2018 draft can get celtics a really good PG and/or C with Nets + Lakers pick(if conveyed), can then move horford to PF. Gotta give Ainge the benefit of the doubt on this trade tbh.

Brown is not a shooting guard. You have to be able to shoot and defend guards if you are going to play the 2.

He can do both. Plus play a little 3 and 4.

He is a lumbering 6'7, 230 lb dude (with room to get a lot bigger, as he's just 21 years old). How many SG's can you think of who successfully play the position at that size? Klay Thompson and Jimmy Butler are about as big as SGs can get and they are both 10-15 lbs lighter.

Also, he simply doesn't have the outside shot to be a SG. It's hard enough with Marcus Smart on the court clanking outside shots. Speaking of Smart, if you want Brown to play SG, what about Bradley and Smart, what happens to their minutes?

The guy is a SF with capability to guard some PFs. That's great, but he's not a SG and shouldn't be expected to be one. He's still got a potentially bright future, but trying to shift everything around just to suit Jayson Tatum seems unwise.

[tombattor]

Brown / Jackson.

Jackson is better than Tatum. Simple.

Exactly. The better player. Can't draft for need/fit with the 3rd pick.

[IBelieveInBrad]

Tatum would've been a fine draft pick 15-20 years ago. Now he's kind of a dinosaur. He slows the game down with his top-of-the-key jab-stepping and hesitating. He lets the defense recover and reset.

Coach Pop said it best: if the ball doesn't move, you die.

[Kalela]

I remember last year most people thought Ainge would select one of Dunn, Murray or Heild. I can see Ainge doing something similar and selecting someone like Markannen. Personally I like Tatum and Isaac and would be okay with either. This may sound crazy but Tatum actually reminds of Durant.

[sam_I_am]

Tough call. Tatum has higher floor and is better fit. Jackson has higher bust or MKG potential but if he knocks down his shot the sky is the limit.

I think Tatum allows us to play GSW style. But maybe getting freak high motor athletes like Jackson (assuming he turns out very good) is a better way to beat the Warriors. Doubtful we'll ever out shoot them. But it was also doubtful the 80s Pistons were ever going to out shoot and out finesse the Celtics or Lakers as well.

Imagine trading Avery or Crowder plus Memphis pick for #7 and coming out of draft with Jackson/DJS? or Jackson/Isaac? Then hopefully you sign Blake and suddenly its as if Rodman and Sally joined the team. Maybe the extreme athleticism of DJS/Smart/Jackson/Brown next to Blake/IT/Horford becomes the next thing in the NBA that the rest of the league has to react to.