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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#21 » by Curmudgeon » Sat Nov 2, 2019 11:27 pm

Gant wrote:Carsen Edwards, 21 year old rookie: So far in his first 4 games he has scored 3,10,1, and 2 points with one DNP.

Vinnie Johnson, 23 year old rookie: His rookie scoring in his early games: 2,8,6,0,0,0,2,2,2,2,2,2,5,1,4,0... and basically it went on like that his whole rookie year. The future Microwave's high was 12 points that season, which didn't happen until late January. He only got to double figures twice.

In his second season he started scoring.

I think Edwards will score this year. Patience is good.


Fine. If Edwards comes around, they would have two snipers. You can't have too much shooting in the sprawl ball era.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#22 » by Ed Pinkney » Sat Nov 2, 2019 11:38 pm

Tristan Thompson could be really good for the Celtics, but no way you give up a core piece for him.

The Sabonis noise makes sense too, but now he signed an extension it would be much harder to match salaries.
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Post#23 » by 100proof » Sun Nov 3, 2019 12:04 am

Honestly, still in on a proper center and making more time for gwilliams.

I have been quite impressed with his play. Very horford like in some way. Could be a great fit.

Kanter, langford, wannamaker and a pick
For
Capela and cash

Kemba/eswards/waters
Brown/smart/green
Tatum/hayward/semi
GWilliams/theis
Capela/rwilliams/porier

Capela is a usefull trade piece next season once rob williams further improves
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Post#24 » by robdog_5 » Sun Nov 3, 2019 12:17 am

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Celts17Pride wrote:Ainge should keep an eye on Dario Saric in Phoenix. 3 point shooting power forward who is making $3.48 million this season.

Ojeleye,Wanamaker and give them back the Milwaukee pick.


It would probably take more than that. But if this was the price you make the deal all day.


Hes a FA after this year. Not sure it will take a ton
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Post#25 » by Fencer reregistered » Sun Nov 3, 2019 12:33 am

100proof wrote:Honestly, still in on a proper center and making more time for gwilliams.

I have been quite impressed with his play. Very horford like in some way. Could be a great fit.

Kanter, langford, wannamaker and a pick
For
Capela and cash

Kemba/eswards/waters
Brown/smart/green
Tatum/hayward/semi
GWilliams/theis
Capela/rwilliams/porier

Capela is a usefull trade piece next season once rob williams further improves


Houston is more in win-now mode than we are. There's no deal like that to be had unless it's part of something much bigger for which they need to move Capela's salary.
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Post#26 » by GoGreen » Sun Nov 3, 2019 2:09 am

I know we really could use size, but I'm starting to wonder if we need bench scoring more?

Unless Smart is hot.. who can we count on to get bucket? If you're telling me Carsen will start hitting shots, then this could be moot. We'll see.
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Post#27 » by Ernest » Sun Nov 3, 2019 5:37 am

The first question is what bigs might get bought out around the deadline?

We might be the best destination for someone who gets traded and bought out as we will have a good record and a decent center can probably come here and start.

If we have to trade for someone, it becomes a lot harder. Look at someone like Drummond. I could see Det having a crappy record and deciding to blow it up. But even if they wanted to gift him to us, how do we make the money work? We don't have any dead weight to send out.
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Post#28 » by Parliament10 » Sun Nov 3, 2019 9:35 am

Ojeleye, Wanamaker, & Poirier do not belong on this team.
AND, Hayward is redundant, as we have Jayson and Jaylen.

If we trade these 4, then we could have a something.

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Post#29 » by Triple7 » Sun Nov 3, 2019 9:41 am

Romeiro Celtic wrote:Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20

I moved 10 posts over here to Start it off.
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Add maybe Poirier and a future protected 1st + a couple of future seconds and I guess its done.


Tristan thompson is awful. That guy has limited offensive skill, and can’t rim protect at all. Trading hayward for those two would be a disaster. :lol:
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Post#30 » by Triple7 » Sun Nov 3, 2019 9:49 am

Parliament10 wrote:Ojeleye, Wanamaker, & Poirier do not belong on this team.
AND, Hayward is redundant, as we have Jayson and Jaylen.
If we trade these 4, then we could have a something.

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I would still give Poirier a chance. After all he’s still a rookie. He’s a legit 7 footer, and we can use a big body like him just to clog the paint. It’s also hard for rookies to stay ready and focused, when you’re not getting consistent minutes. Same thing that’s happening to carsen. He just can’t settle down. Wanamaker and Semi are basically useless. They don’t give anything at all. Don’t know why brad keeps using them.
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Post#31 » by Parliament10 » Sun Nov 3, 2019 9:56 am

GoGreen wrote:I know we really could use size, but I'm starting to wonder if we need bench scoring more?

Unless Smart is hot.. who can we count on to get bucket? If you're telling me Carsen will start hitting shots, then this could be moot. We'll see.

We definitely need the Bench to score more. Moving Hayward there would help.
The following isn't likely to happen. But, I'd like to see something like this.:

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Edwards - Smart - Hayward - G. Williams - R. Williams
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Post#32 » by Homerclease » Sun Nov 3, 2019 10:01 am

Parliament10 wrote:Ojeleye, Wanamaker, & Poirier do not belong on this team.
AND, Hayward is redundant, as we have Jayson and Jaylen.

If we trade these 4, then we could have a something.

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I think its hard to call anyone redundant when they are shooting over 50% from beyond the 3 point arc. The other three are absolutely useless though. I’d honestly rather play Tacko and Waters but I’m afraid that’s going to have to wait a year
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Post#33 » by Parliament10 » Sun Nov 3, 2019 10:13 am

Homerclease wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:Ojeleye, Wanamaker, & Poirier do not belong on this team.
AND, Hayward is redundant, as we have Jayson and Jaylen.

If we trade these 4, then we could have a something.

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I think its hard to call anyone redundant when they are shooting over 50% from beyond the 3 point arc. The other three are absolutely useless though. I’d honestly rather play Tacko and Waters but I’m afraid that’s going to have to wait a year

TBH, Hayward is just holding the Jays back.
Jaylen and Jayson can both do what we want Hayward to do, and at a much better price tag.

Don't get me wrong. -- Hayward is definitely a good player.
Though likely, no longer the All-Star that we wanted. And definitely not worth his $32.7M salary.
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Post#34 » by Homerclease » Sun Nov 3, 2019 10:16 am

Parliament10 wrote:
Homerclease wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:Ojeleye, Wanamaker, & Poirier do not belong on this team.
AND, Hayward is redundant, as we have Jayson and Jaylen.

If we trade these 4, then we could have a something.

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I think its hard to call anyone redundant when they are shooting over 50% from beyond the 3 point arc. The other three are absolutely useless though. I’d honestly rather play Tacko and Waters but I’m afraid that’s going to have to wait a year

TBH, Hayward is just holding the Jays back.
Jaylen and Jayson can both do what we want Hayward to do, and at a much better price tag.

Don't get me wrong. -- Hayward is definitely a good player.
Though likely, no longer the All-Star that we wanted. And definitely not worth his $32.7M salary.

Both the Jays are coming along as playmakers but they aren’t there with Hayward yet IMO. I’m also of the mind that you can never have enough shooting which Hayward is certainly providing right now. Also, Brown has to stay out of foul trouble. If he keeps picking up cheapies, then Hayward is definitely needed
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Post#35 » by Parliament10 » Sun Nov 3, 2019 10:23 am

Homerclease wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:
Homerclease wrote:I think its hard to call anyone redundant when they are shooting over 50% from beyond the 3 point arc. The other three are absolutely useless though. I’d honestly rather play Tacko and Waters but I’m afraid that’s going to have to wait a year

TBH, Hayward is just holding the Jays back.
Jaylen and Jayson can both do what we want Hayward to do, and at a much better price tag.

Don't get me wrong. -- Hayward is definitely a good player.
Though likely, no longer the All-Star that we wanted. And definitely not worth his $32.7M salary.

Both the Jays are coming along as playmakers but they aren’t there with Hayward yet IMO. I’m also of the mind that you can never have enough shooting which Hayward is certainly providing right now. Also, Brown has to stay out of foul trouble. If he keeps picking up cheapies, then Hayward is definitely needed

Hayward is a proven talent. But, he's not getting any better though.
Singly, he's better than either Jayson or Jaylen. But, not both of them. Adn they're both improving.
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Post#36 » by LewisnotMiller » Sun Nov 3, 2019 10:26 am

Ed Pinkney wrote:Tristan Thompson could be really good for the Celtics, but no way you give up a core piece for him.

The Sabonis noise makes sense too, but now he signed an extension it would be much harder to match salaries.


It's almost impossible this year. Rookie extension rules mean he counts as his current salary for outgoing, but His average salary over the life of the deal for incoming.
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Post#37 » by LewisnotMiller » Sun Nov 3, 2019 10:31 am

GoGreen wrote:I know we really could use size, but I'm starting to wonder if we need bench scoring more?

Unless Smart is hot.. who can we count on to get bucket? If you're telling me Carsen will start hitting shots, then this could be moot. We'll see.


It exposes us with Brown out, but otherwise we can stagger and have two of Brown, Tatum, Hayward and Smart on court regardless of starters.
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Post#38 » by LewisnotMiller » Sun Nov 3, 2019 10:34 am

Ernest wrote:If we have to trade for someone, it becomes a lot harder. Look at someone like Drummond. I could see Det having a crappy record and deciding to blow it up. But even if they wanted to gift him to us, how do we make the money work? We don't have any dead weight to send out.


It's have to be Hayward, just in terms of salary. And if they're blowing it up, that means Hayward plus first rounders.
I'd pass.
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Post#39 » by Parliament10 » Sun Nov 3, 2019 10:56 am

LewisnotMiller wrote:
Ernest wrote:If we have to trade for someone, it becomes a lot harder. Look at someone like Drummond. I could see Det having a crappy record and deciding to blow it up. But even if they wanted to gift him to us, how do we make the money work? We don't have any dead weight to send out.


It's have to be Hayward, just in terms of salary. And if they're blowing it up, that means Hayward plus first rounders.
I'd pass.

I'd do it for 1 x 1st Rounder. Though, if they're taking our deadweight players and giving us an additional good player, then I'd give them 2 x 1st Rounders. Depends upon the personnel.

Keeping in mind, that Drummond could never finish a game. He sucks too much on Free throws.
Rovert Williams would have to be in at End of Games, over Drummond.
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Post#40 » by Higgs Boston » Sun Nov 3, 2019 11:39 am

It's difficult, besides cut wannabe to sign waters and cut one of poirier, ojeleye or green to sign a C in the buyout market there isn't a good trade target.
Wizards have bertans but he is expiring, then they have Bryant and Wagner but I doubt they trade them.
Pelicans have Favors but only it would be possible if he is cut.
Pistons have Wood
Pacers have turner, sabonis and bitadze, maybe they are interested in a trade if they realize that turner and sabonis can't play together.
Cavs have nance and zizic
Knicks bigs are too expensive, maybe if gibson gets cut but he looks done.
Suns have Baynes, maybe they trade him if they don't go to the playoffs.

Not too much options.

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