Trade Thread, Part 3: The Fun Continues

[Darthlukey]

I was just looking at the Det - Atl trade that fell through, mainly because Atl didn't want to give up the Brooklyn 1st in the deal, thought it was to high a pick to add. What if we offered Atl the Milwaukee pick (30) and our pick (23), along with Brooklyn's 2nd round pick (45) for the Brooklyn pick (15). Then they could give up the mil pick in the deal if they wanted.

So:
23, 30, and 45
for
15

You mean after the season, right? I don't want to trade for a team's pick in-season and then have them motivated to not-tank, unless the rest of the deal is too good to pass up.

The nets are already anti-tanking cos they dont own the pick. Effectively we are moving 3 picks to move up from say 23 to 15-17

[sully00]

I know I’m not a mod, but can we collectively just stop doing the “Were not trading player X!” or “Ainge wont be trading player X!”?

No ****, were likely not making any moves this year. The purpose of this thread was supposed to be to discuss moves and ascertain player value. No one should be off limits in this thread and this shouldn't be the place to stamp your feet because your binkie was mentioned.

[/rant]

This is the place to discuss random and silly trade ideas, this forum is called RealGM not FanBoyGM. If you have no interest in discussing personnel moves and decisions then stay out of the thread that is the whole point. And I am a Mod, still... I think.

P.S. And being a retired Mod just means you get to do all of the same old stuff just while wearing bad Hawaiian Shirts and a rum drink in your hand.

[sully00]

I was just looking at the Det - Atl trade that fell through, mainly because Atl didn't want to give up the Brooklyn 1st in the deal, thought it was to high a pick to add. What if we offered Atl the Milwaukee pick (30) and our pick (23), along with Brooklyn's 2nd round pick (45) for the Brooklyn pick (15). Then they could give up the mil pick in the deal if they wanted.

So:
23, 30, and 45
for
15

I don't think that the pick is as much of an issue as Drummond's current contract demands. I think ATL wanted him to pick up the 27 mil option for 20-21 and he seems set to go to market. DET is looking to deal him because he doesn't seem interested in entertaining any sort of extension from them that is less than the max.

If your Drummond you have to decide what your priority is. I have a hard time telling a guy who is his size, with his resume and age that he isn't going to get a max offer in FA in a weak FA market. Going to ATL isn't going to necessarily help his FA prospects and I don't see why he would pick up his option to go there and risk being the next DeMarcus Cousins. I don't really see what he is risking by planning on opting out and looking for a max deal because DET has no reason not to make him the same offer or better that they are making now in the off season.

So the only reason Drummond has to help facilitate a trade is because he gets to dictate where he is going and the place(s) he wants to go may not be able to make a legit offer in FA.

[floyd]

I know I’m not a mod, but can we collectively just stop doing the “Were not trading player X!” or “Ainge wont be trading player X!”?

No ****, were likely not making any moves this year. The purpose of this thread was supposed to be to discuss moves and ascertain player value. No one should be off limits in this thread and this shouldn't be the place to stamp your feet because your binkie was mentioned.

[/rant]

This is the place to discuss random and silly trade ideas, this forum is called RealGM not FanBoyGM. If you have no interest in discussing personnel moves and decisions then stay out of the thread that is the whole point. And I am a Mod, still... I think.

P.S. And being a retired Mod just means you get to do all of the same old stuff just while wearing bad Hawaiian Shirts and a rum drink in your hand.

"Senior" Mod - you must get discounts at the mod buffet.

[sully00]

I know I’m not a mod, but can we collectively just stop doing the “Were not trading player X!” or “Ainge wont be trading player X!”?

No ****, were likely not making any moves this year. The purpose of this thread was supposed to be to discuss moves and ascertain player value. No one should be off limits in this thread and this shouldn't be the place to stamp your feet because your binkie was mentioned.

[/rant]

This is the place to discuss random and silly trade ideas, this forum is called RealGM not FanBoyGM. If you have no interest in discussing personnel moves and decisions then stay out of the thread that is the whole point. And I am a Mod, still... I think.

P.S. And being a retired Mod just means you get to do all of the same old stuff just while wearing bad Hawaiian Shirts and a rum drink in your hand.

"Senior" Mod - you must get discounts at the mod buffet.

Only between 4:30-6:00pm which fortunately for me is the same as Happy Hour.

[Celts17Pride]

NBA Trade Deadline on February 6th at 3:00 pm EST. Just about 10 days from now. Celtics have home games scheduled on Feb 5th and Feb 7th. No games scheduled for Feb 6th.

If Ainge pulls off a trade and given the Celtics continuing health issues the Celtics will probably be short handed on Feb 5th or Feb 7th with about 7 active players

[Celtics_History_Lesson]

a trade and given the Celtics continuing health issues the Celtics will probably be short handed on Feb 5th or Feb 7th with about 7 active players

Those are the fun games.

They used to take place in Denver, or Vancouver.

So obviously the trade deadline was not only later back then but always when the Celtics had a long western road trip.


Those were games when people here would say, "I hope Chris Johnson can be productive in his 28 minutes."





Come on, make a trade. It will make the players and the fans happy.

The Ainge Cartel has a clown car, except it is where they try to cram 11 shooting guards into 48 minutes.



Dallas have made 2 trades in the past week.

The Celtics have made 2 trades in the past 3 years.



Make a trade.



Don't care who it is, trade some end of the bench guy for a 6-10 end of the bench power forward.

At least the team would have one power forward, instead of a couple of undersized power forwards.


If the team will never play Romeo, trade him now.




Too much of a steal, but a trade.

J Layman, H Giles to Boston

C Edwards to Minnesota

V Perrier, S Ojeleye, 2nd rounder to Sacramento


T-Wolves need little shooters, they have one and would then have two.

Vlade is crazy, but he gets a draft pick for someone he doesn't intend to keep around.

Celtics get a 6-10 power forward, and also one of the most exciting local prospects Boston has ever seen.

[captain green]

I'm still interested in trying to get our legit center or power forward it's been forever. If we can get a top 15 center I think we're golden. Unfortunately no real tradeable contracts and no real draft assets. I feel like we stand pat. Even on minor trades I see limited options. Romero is the only shiny chip and it's more close to a nickel than a Susan b. So if there is a trade I'd assume it involves Langford

[Andrew McCeltic]

We haven't seen much of Langford, or seen how he looks with our core. But his brief minutes this year have been pretty much as advertised - great feel for the game, looks like he's playing at half speed but can get to the rim, good awareness, can't shoot. Star upside if he fixes his shot. Not someone you'd give away at this point.

Also have a weird suspicion they're holding out Rob Williams so that no one will ask for him in trades.

[Andrew McCeltic]

I was just looking at the Det - Atl trade that fell through, mainly because Atl didn't want to give up the Brooklyn 1st in the deal, thought it was to high a pick to add. What if we offered Atl the Milwaukee pick (30) and our pick (23), along with Brooklyn's 2nd round pick (45) for the Brooklyn pick (15). Then they could give up the mil pick in the deal if they wanted.

So:
23, 30, and 45
for
15

I don't think that the pick is as much of an issue as Drummond's current contract demands. I think ATL wanted him to pick up the 27 mil option for 20-21 and he seems set to go to market. DET is looking to deal him because he doesn't seem interested in entertaining any sort of extension from them that is less than the max.

If your Drummond you have to decide what your priority is. I have a hard time telling a guy who is his size, with his resume and age that he isn't going to get a max offer in FA in a weak FA market. Going to ATL isn't going to necessarily help his FA prospects and I don't see why he would pick up his option to go there and risk being the next DeMarcus Cousins. I don't really see what he is risking by planning on opting out and looking for a max deal because DET has no reason not to make him the same offer or better that they are making now in the off season.

So the only reason Drummond has to help facilitate a trade is because he gets to dictate where he is going and the place(s) he wants to go may not be able to make a legit offer in FA.

Yeah Atlanta refusing to give up a pick (for now) just looks like negotiation to me - of Drummond's trade value and his contract if they get him. But he does have a little leverage, too, in where he's traded. He likes Boston..

[Fencer reregistered]

The simplest idea that makes sense is Bjelica. Matching salary could require 3 outgoing players, e.g. Semi/Poirier/Edwards. Add a late FRP, and it's 4:1. Ask for SRP picks back in future seasons to balance a bit of the value. In the mean time, there's room for buyout guys, e.g. an aged, formerly good center of the kind Ainge liked to add to the team a decade ago.

One limitation on Bjelica's value, however: He's already 31.

[snowman]

Let me offer a trade challenge game to you guys. Here are my rules should you decide to play. You won't win anything except my admiration in your brain function as a RealGM'er, which most of you guys have already.

1) These 10 players are strictly off limits: Walker, Brown, Hayward, Tatum, Theis, Smart, Langford, G. Williams, R. Williams, and Kanter.
2) That leaves Wannamaker, Green, Edwards, Semi and Poirier and all 3 first round picks to work with. You don't have to use all, but you can.
3) Trade must return at least 2 players, that will improve our bench the most in at least 2 offensive categories. (scoring, 3pt. %, off rebounds, etc.) above what is going out. (Shouldn't be hard)
4) Trade must be approved by RealGm trade checker:
5) Here is the biggie, trade must be realistic in nature. In other words, the other team should have a somewhat chance to be interested.

Most of the players that will work have already been mentioned in this thread already, so try and find someone new.
Want to try ?

[SmartWentCrazy]

This summer I’m offering Brown/Smart to Minny for KAT. That team needs to blow it the **** up and reset the culture from the ground up. Hopefully we can convince them to send us KAT.

[theman]

I'm still interested in trying to get our legit center or power forward it's been forever. If we can get a top 15 center I think we're golden. Unfortunately no real tradeable contracts and no real draft assets. I feel like we stand pat. Even on minor trades I see limited options. Romero is the only shiny chip and it's more close to a nickel than a Susan b. So if there is a trade I'd assume it involves Langford

I am thinking the tandem of Theis and Kanter is okay at center. Not great but okay and improves with the return of Williams. But we don't have a real power forward. Looking at who is available. How about:

Smart, Poirier to Orlando for Aaron Gordon.

Gordon is have a down year but is a stud and only 24. (Younger than Smart). Golden State passed on Gordon for Russell so their price should be lower. Ainge might even be able to extract a second rounder in the deal.

[theman]

This summer I’m offering Brown/Smart to Minny for KAT. That team needs to blow it the **** up and reset the culture from the ground up. Hopefully we can convince them to send us KAT.

That would likely need to be Brown + Smart + Memphis pick + Celtics Pick.

But still a good deal. Can Brad teach KAT how to play defense?

[MagicBagley18]

This summer I’m offering Brown/Smart to Minny for KAT. That team needs to blow it the **** up and reset the culture from the ground up. Hopefully we can convince them to send us KAT.

Dude I think if that Memphis pick had lived up to its hype we may be able to get that done now I don’t think so. I do think u r right tho I think he will demand a trade this summer.

[Feed Your Head]

Jaylen/Smart/Romeo/RW3/Grizz pick/Celtics pick would possibly get it done i think.

[SmartWentCrazy]

This summer I’m offering Brown/Smart to Minny for KAT. That team needs to blow it the **** up and reset the culture from the ground up. Hopefully we can convince them to send us KAT.

That would likely need to be Brown + Smart + Memphis pick + Celtics Pick.

But still a good deal. Can Brad teach KAT how to play defense?

Throw in all the picks for all I care. If we can turn Brown and Smart into KAT, I’d be thrilled.

[SmartWentCrazy]

This summer I’m offering Brown/Smart to Minny for KAT. That team needs to blow it the **** up and reset the culture from the ground up. Hopefully we can convince them to send us KAT.

Dude I think if that Memphis pick had lived up to its hype we may be able to get that done now I don’t think so. I do think u r right tho I think he will demand a trade this summer.

They just need to blow it up. The culture is broken there.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Jaylen/Smart/Romeo/RW3/Grizz pick/Celtics pick would possibly get it done i think.

Rosas is huge into analytics and I am positive that he would love to get his hands on Smart.