2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN)

[themoneyteam2]

it gets tiring every year reading everyone parrot the so-called experts claiming the upcoming draft is a weak class. Besides 2017, seemingly every year they say this and every year they've been dead wrong. It's worse this year because of the lost season so these supposed scouts have so little information to go on therefore the talking heads who rely on these usually clueless scouts are in the dark like never before. I promise you at each of our picks, there'll be a potential starter or even star, available to draft. Almost assuredly Danny will choose the wrong player though. And like after most of his drafts, I'll be left on an island telling everyone how bad the picks were, hammered by everyone for it, only to be proven right once games start or year(s) down the road when they don't amount to anything special. But who knows, maybe this will be the year Danny knocks it out of the park and saves our season and salvages the last vestiges of his war chest and of course if that happens, his apologists will conveniently forget all the wasted picks.

The more I study up on this draft class and read the various mocks and Big Boards, the more excited I become because if they're at all accurate it means some of the best players in this draft will fall to us like with what happened last year. I was shocked at each of our picks at who was still on the board. Of course, Danny screwed it up, but still. This is similar to last year where the idiots who run these bad teams in the lottery who don't know what they're doing, will take big names instead of great projectable players. This bodes well for us.

Yeah you also said if we had picked Sekou, Bol Bol, Naz Reid, or Isiah Roby in the draft we’d be playing in the finals right now...

Now is probably the time to sit this one out and not to say you’re hammered for telling everyone how bad the picks were and then proven right once the season starts.

[celticfan42487]

Well after watching a particularly poignant video breaking down the Celtics. I've completely changed my desires from what I was looking to add in the draft. I was looking at it mainly for bench players to add the finishing touches to this team (and if we're lucky starting lineup Center). But I realize a wise GM should be taking the longer view.

We have a budding near MVP (we'll see how next season goes) in Tatum who is 22. A just below all-star in Brown who is 23. And a great defensive sixth man x factor in Smart that's 26.

I love Kemba but he might not be around for the long haul with his what 3 surgeries on his knee and after 4 months off he wasn't able to get it healthy from rest? Not sure why 3 more months after playing on hit for a month would get it better and he's 30 and short... things don't get easier in your 30s.

So now my #1 desire at #14 is Cole Anthony. Who may be a complete **** bust, or he might be the next Kemba himslef.

On the off shot he is, and he can raise himself to that level while Kemba falls down that would give Tatum and Brown a consistent all-star type guard to work with.


After that I also, if he's there in at 26/30 would like to get Poku and see if he can become anything in 2 years. Honestly it's worth the look and we can send him off on a loan to get better and free up a roster spot I'm sure if he doesn't seem ready in camp. We can bring back guys like Kanter and Brad Wannamaker next year instead and it's good to have that X-factor cooking in the oven that might be around to give Tatum that help when he just STARTS his prime 2 years from now.


In leiu of those with the 30th pick any playmaking PG or Center or 3 and D will do. The most competent one of those positions we have needs on the team for will work out.

But I had recency bias knowing we had a second round kind of team make the ECF in a weird year (Bucks historic fall, Durant out). We have to get back to looking at this draft as the last time we have multiple picks and taking the guys that might do great things in our starting lineup 2 years from now for us knowing Hayward is only going to decline as a player and Kemba frankly isn't someone we're certain won't either. This was Tatum's break out season at 22, not him entering his prime.... and we need to try to be loaded as much as we can in his prime to not waste those years and have him demand to be traded during it.

[Fencer reregistered]

Well after watching a particularly poignant video breaking down the Celtics. I've completely changed my desires from what I was looking to add in the draft. I was looking at it mainly for bench players to add the finishing touches to this team (and if we're lucky starting lineup Center). But I realize a wise GM should be taking the longer view.

We have a budding near MVP (we'll see how next season goes) in Tatum who is 22. A just below all-star in Brown who is 23. And a great defensive sixth man x factor in Smart that's 26.

I love Kemba but he might not be around for the long haul with his what 3 surgeries on his knee and after 4 months off he wasn't able to get it healthy from rest? Not sure why 3 more months after playing on hit for a month would get it better and he's 30 and short... things don't get easier in your 30s.

So now my #1 desire at #14 is Cole Anthony. Who may be a complete **** bust, or he might be the next Kemba himslef.

On the off shot he is, and he can raise himself to that level while Kemba falls down that would give Tatum and Brown a consistent all-star type guard to work with.


After that I also, if he's there in at 26/30 would like to get Poku and see if he can become anything in 2 years. Honestly it's worth the look and we can send him off on a loan to get better and free up a roster spot I'm sure if he doesn't seem ready in camp. We can bring back guys like Kanter and Brad Wannamaker next year instead and it's good to have that X-factor cooking in the oven that might be around to give Tatum that help when he just STARTS his prime 2 years from now.


In leiu of those with the 30th pick any playmaking PG or Center or 3 and D will do. The most competent one of those positions we have needs on the team for will work out.

But I had recency bias knowing we had a second round kind of team make the ECF in a weird year (Bucks historic fall, Durant out). We have to get back to looking at this draft as the last time we have multiple picks and taking the guys that might do great things in our starting lineup 2 years from now for us knowing Hayward is only going to decline as a player and Kemba frankly isn't someone we're certain won't either. This was Tatum's break out season at 22, not him entering his prime.... and we need to try to be loaded as much as we can in his prime to not waste those years and have him demand to be traded during it.

Kemba needs a young understudy, and it would be nice if he had no-apologies size.

[Floody100]

Well after watching a particularly poignant video breaking down the Celtics. I've completely changed my desires from what I was looking to add in the draft. I was looking at it mainly for bench players to add the finishing touches to this team (and if we're lucky starting lineup Center). But I realize a wise GM should be taking the longer view.

We have a budding near MVP (we'll see how next season goes) in Tatum who is 22. A just below all-star in Brown who is 23. And a great defensive sixth man x factor in Smart that's 26.

I love Kemba but he might not be around for the long haul with his what 3 surgeries on his knee and after 4 months off he wasn't able to get it healthy from rest? Not sure why 3 more months after playing on hit for a month would get it better and he's 30 and short... things don't get easier in your 30s.

So now my #1 desire at #14 is Cole Anthony. Who may be a complete **** bust, or he might be the next Kemba himslef.

On the off shot he is, and he can raise himself to that level while Kemba falls down that would give Tatum and Brown a consistent all-star type guard to work with.


After that I also, if he's there in at 26/30 would like to get Poku and see if he can become anything in 2 years. Honestly it's worth the look and we can send him off on a loan to get better and free up a roster spot I'm sure if he doesn't seem ready in camp. We can bring back guys like Kanter and Brad Wannamaker next year instead and it's good to have that X-factor cooking in the oven that might be around to give Tatum that help when he just STARTS his prime 2 years from now.


In leiu of those with the 30th pick any playmaking PG or Center or 3 and D will do. The most competent one of those positions we have needs on the team for will work out.

But I had recency bias knowing we had a second round kind of team make the ECF in a weird year (Bucks historic fall, Durant out). We have to get back to looking at this draft as the last time we have multiple picks and taking the guys that might do great things in our starting lineup 2 years from now for us knowing Hayward is only going to decline as a player and Kemba frankly isn't someone we're certain won't either. This was Tatum's break out season at 22, not him entering his prime.... and we need to try to be loaded as much as we can in his prime to not waste those years and have him demand to be traded during it.

Not sold on Anthony. Reminds me too much of Carsten Edwards.

[TheMartian]

Well after watching a particularly poignant video breaking down the Celtics. I've completely changed my desires from what I was looking to add in the draft. I was looking at it mainly for bench players to add the finishing touches to this team (and if we're lucky starting lineup Center). But I realize a wise GM should be taking the longer view.

We have a budding near MVP (we'll see how next season goes) in Tatum who is 22. A just below all-star in Brown who is 23. And a great defensive sixth man x factor in Smart that's 26.

I love Kemba but he might not be around for the long haul with his what 3 surgeries on his knee and after 4 months off he wasn't able to get it healthy from rest? Not sure why 3 more months after playing on hit for a month would get it better and he's 30 and short... things don't get easier in your 30s.

So now my #1 desire at #14 is Cole Anthony. Who may be a complete **** bust, or he might be the next Kemba himslef.

On the off shot he is, and he can raise himself to that level while Kemba falls down that would give Tatum and Brown a consistent all-star type guard to work with.


After that I also, if he's there in at 26/30 would like to get Poku and see if he can become anything in 2 years. Honestly it's worth the look and we can send him off on a loan to get better and free up a roster spot I'm sure if he doesn't seem ready in camp. We can bring back guys like Kanter and Brad Wannamaker next year instead and it's good to have that X-factor cooking in the oven that might be around to give Tatum that help when he just STARTS his prime 2 years from now.


In leiu of those with the 30th pick any playmaking PG or Center or 3 and D will do. The most competent one of those positions we have needs on the team for will work out.

But I had recency bias knowing we had a second round kind of team make the ECF in a weird year (Bucks historic fall, Durant out). We have to get back to looking at this draft as the last time we have multiple picks and taking the guys that might do great things in our starting lineup 2 years from now for us knowing Hayward is only going to decline as a player and Kemba frankly isn't someone we're certain won't either. This was Tatum's break out season at 22, not him entering his prime.... and we need to try to be loaded as much as we can in his prime to not waste those years and have him demand to be traded during it.

Not sold on Anthony. Reminds me too much of Carsten Edwards.

Same observation here. Don't want another Carsen Edwards on the roster. Hopefully he's much better.

[JHTruth]

Well after watching a particularly poignant video breaking down the Celtics. I've completely changed my desires from what I was looking to add in the draft. I was looking at it mainly for bench players to add the finishing touches to this team (and if we're lucky starting lineup Center). But I realize a wise GM should be taking the longer view.

We have a budding near MVP (we'll see how next season goes) in Tatum who is 22. A just below all-star in Brown who is 23. And a great defensive sixth man x factor in Smart that's 26.

I love Kemba but he might not be around for the long haul with his what 3 surgeries on his knee and after 4 months off he wasn't able to get it healthy from rest? Not sure why 3 more months after playing on hit for a month would get it better and he's 30 and short... things don't get easier in your 30s.

So now my #1 desire at #14 is Cole Anthony. Who may be a complete **** bust, or he might be the next Kemba himslef.

On the off shot he is, and he can raise himself to that level while Kemba falls down that would give Tatum and Brown a consistent all-star type guard to work with.


After that I also, if he's there in at 26/30 would like to get Poku and see if he can become anything in 2 years. Honestly it's worth the look and we can send him off on a loan to get better and free up a roster spot I'm sure if he doesn't seem ready in camp. We can bring back guys like Kanter and Brad Wannamaker next year instead and it's good to have that X-factor cooking in the oven that might be around to give Tatum that help when he just STARTS his prime 2 years from now.


In leiu of those with the 30th pick any playmaking PG or Center or 3 and D will do. The most competent one of those positions we have needs on the team for will work out.

But I had recency bias knowing we had a second round kind of team make the ECF in a weird year (Bucks historic fall, Durant out). We have to get back to looking at this draft as the last time we have multiple picks and taking the guys that might do great things in our starting lineup 2 years from now for us knowing Hayward is only going to decline as a player and Kemba frankly isn't someone we're certain won't either. This was Tatum's break out season at 22, not him entering his prime.... and we need to try to be loaded as much as we can in his prime to not waste those years and have him demand to be traded during it.

Kemba needs a young understudy, and it would be nice if he had no-apologies size.

All signs point to us moving up to grab Haliburton. I think Danny and Brad have had enough of smallish, score-first PGs. They desperately need a lead table-setter, playmaker who can run the offense, especially in crunch-time. Guys like IT,Kyrie,Kemba are great when the team doesn't have as much talent on the wing and you need points on the board. But with Tatum and Brown the offense becomes real clunky. "Take turns" as Chuck called it.

[JHTruth]

Well after watching a particularly poignant video breaking down the Celtics. I've completely changed my desires from what I was looking to add in the draft. I was looking at it mainly for bench players to add the finishing touches to this team (and if we're lucky starting lineup Center). But I realize a wise GM should be taking the longer view.

We have a budding near MVP (we'll see how next season goes) in Tatum who is 22. A just below all-star in Brown who is 23. And a great defensive sixth man x factor in Smart that's 26.

I love Kemba but he might not be around for the long haul with his what 3 surgeries on his knee and after 4 months off he wasn't able to get it healthy from rest? Not sure why 3 more months after playing on hit for a month would get it better and he's 30 and short... things don't get easier in your 30s.

So now my #1 desire at #14 is Cole Anthony. Who may be a complete **** bust, or he might be the next Kemba himslef.

On the off shot he is, and he can raise himself to that level while Kemba falls down that would give Tatum and Brown a consistent all-star type guard to work with.


After that I also, if he's there in at 26/30 would like to get Poku and see if he can become anything in 2 years. Honestly it's worth the look and we can send him off on a loan to get better and free up a roster spot I'm sure if he doesn't seem ready in camp. We can bring back guys like Kanter and Brad Wannamaker next year instead and it's good to have that X-factor cooking in the oven that might be around to give Tatum that help when he just STARTS his prime 2 years from now.


In leiu of those with the 30th pick any playmaking PG or Center or 3 and D will do. The most competent one of those positions we have needs on the team for will work out.

But I had recency bias knowing we had a second round kind of team make the ECF in a weird year (Bucks historic fall, Durant out). We have to get back to looking at this draft as the last time we have multiple picks and taking the guys that might do great things in our starting lineup 2 years from now for us knowing Hayward is only going to decline as a player and Kemba frankly isn't someone we're certain won't either. This was Tatum's break out season at 22, not him entering his prime.... and we need to try to be loaded as much as we can in his prime to not waste those years and have him demand to be traded during it.

Not sold on Anthony. Reminds me too much of Carsten Edwards.

Same observation here. Don't want another Carsen Edwards on the roster. Hopefully he's much better.

I think Carsen will be a great bench weapon for us going forward but no way a Kemba-heir. You need a somewhat selfish scorer on your bench. Otherwise you get our bench, a bunch of defensive specialists passing up or bricking open shots.

[celticfan42487]

Well after watching a particularly poignant video breaking down the Celtics. I've completely changed my desires from what I was looking to add in the draft. I was looking at it mainly for bench players to add the finishing touches to this team (and if we're lucky starting lineup Center). But I realize a wise GM should be taking the longer view.

We have a budding near MVP (we'll see how next season goes) in Tatum who is 22. A just below all-star in Brown who is 23. And a great defensive sixth man x factor in Smart that's 26.

I love Kemba but he might not be around for the long haul with his what 3 surgeries on his knee and after 4 months off he wasn't able to get it healthy from rest? Not sure why 3 more months after playing on hit for a month would get it better and he's 30 and short... things don't get easier in your 30s.

So now my #1 desire at #14 is Cole Anthony. Who may be a complete **** bust, or he might be the next Kemba himslef.

On the off shot he is, and he can raise himself to that level while Kemba falls down that would give Tatum and Brown a consistent all-star type guard to work with.


After that I also, if he's there in at 26/30 would like to get Poku and see if he can become anything in 2 years. Honestly it's worth the look and we can send him off on a loan to get better and free up a roster spot I'm sure if he doesn't seem ready in camp. We can bring back guys like Kanter and Brad Wannamaker next year instead and it's good to have that X-factor cooking in the oven that might be around to give Tatum that help when he just STARTS his prime 2 years from now.


In leiu of those with the 30th pick any playmaking PG or Center or 3 and D will do. The most competent one of those positions we have needs on the team for will work out.

But I had recency bias knowing we had a second round kind of team make the ECF in a weird year (Bucks historic fall, Durant out). We have to get back to looking at this draft as the last time we have multiple picks and taking the guys that might do great things in our starting lineup 2 years from now for us knowing Hayward is only going to decline as a player and Kemba frankly isn't someone we're certain won't either. This was Tatum's break out season at 22, not him entering his prime.... and we need to try to be loaded as much as we can in his prime to not waste those years and have him demand to be traded during it.

Kemba needs a young understudy, and it would be nice if he had no-apologies size.

All signs point to us moving up to grab Haliburton. I think Danny and Brad have had enough of smallish, score-first PGs. They desperately need a lead table-setter, playmaker who can run the offense, especially in crunch-time. Guys like IT,Kyrie,Kemba are great when the team doesn't have as much talent on the wing and you need points on the board. But with Tatum and Brown the offense becomes real clunky. "Take turns" as Chuck called it.

Well I don't think there's any signs at all pointing towards us moving up to take Haliburton or we would have heard of them.

That said, if Ainge sees a player he is certain could be a starter for us and wants to trade up to get him, that also works in my take the long view hopes.

We have to build for a team with the future of Tatum and Brown as the stars. They are both perhaps the best 3 and D guys in the league and Tatum can do a lot on the ball too.

But basically Tatum and Brown both thrive off ball, if you find a stud PG than that's perfect for them.

[TheMartian]

Not sold on Anthony. Reminds me too much of Carsten Edwards.

Same observation here. Don't want another Carsen Edwards on the roster. Hopefully he's much better.

I think Carsen will be a great bench weapon for us going forward but no way a Kemba-heir. You need a somewhat selfish scorer on your bench. Otherwise you get our bench, a bunch of defensive specialists passing up or bricking open shots.

I actually like Tremont Waters more than Carsen but I hope they both find success with the team.

[snowman]

As someone who doesn’t really watch much college ball & seeing who this board is most interested in from previous pages was just wondering where you’d rank these 4 players from player you want the most to player you’d take but least preferable out of the 4.
Nesmith
Bey
Vassell
Reed
?

Haven't put much thought on Vassell since it seems no one thinks he will be there..

But S Bey and Nesmith are like heads or tails.. then P Reed of those 4..

I think a another tough choice for me is at 26, if Desmond Bane and P Reed are there.. One is a 2-3, while the other is a 4-5.. so it would depend on who we get at 14..

I still like Saddiq Bey above the rest due to his 3 point shooting, which is what we need most off the bench. Vassell had 4 games last season in which he hit on 3 or more 3's, where as Bey had 13 games. (Desmond Bane had 14 games) Now Nesmith had 10, but played in fewer games, but I believe Bey is the better athlete, and is 2 " taller. The only knock I see on Bey is that he will be 22 in April, but that just means more maturity, and also that his shot release is a little bit low. But if your open, it doesn't matter. What does matter is that he hit at a 45% clip.
So, after Bey, I have Vassell, Nesmith then Reed. Paul reed my very well be there at 26, or maybe even 30. I think we need a point at 26, and a big at 30. I have said all along that I want Bey at 14, Tre Jones at 26, and Daniel Oturu at 30. A knock down shooter, and good assist point and a rim protecting big checks all our needs to develop. However, if we are looking for someone to defend Embiid, then we might look at Azubuike out of Kansas. Problem with him is he may get eaten up on switch on pick and roll. And we all know how Brad loves the switch defense.

[JHTruth]

Kemba needs a young understudy, and it would be nice if he had no-apologies size.

All signs point to us moving up to grab Haliburton. I think Danny and Brad have had enough of smallish, score-first PGs. They desperately need a lead table-setter, playmaker who can run the offense, especially in crunch-time. Guys like IT,Kyrie,Kemba are great when the team doesn't have as much talent on the wing and you need points on the board. But with Tatum and Brown the offense becomes real clunky. "Take turns" as Chuck called it.

Well I don't think there's any signs at all pointing towards us moving up to take Haliburton or we would have heard of them.

That said, if Ainge sees a player he is certain could be a starter for us and wants to trade up to get him, that also works in my take the long view hopes.

We have to build for a team with the future of Tatum and Brown as the stars. They are both perhaps the best 3 and D guys in the league and Tatum can do a lot on the ball too.

But basically Tatum and Brown both thrive off ball, if you find a stud PG than that's perfect for them.

Lots of smoke in the first draft thread. Were coming out with Hali and Bane

[celticfan42487]

All signs point to us moving up to grab Haliburton. I think Danny and Brad have had enough of smallish, score-first PGs. They desperately need a lead table-setter, playmaker who can run the offense, especially in crunch-time. Guys like IT,Kyrie,Kemba are great when the team doesn't have as much talent on the wing and you need points on the board. But with Tatum and Brown the offense becomes real clunky. "Take turns" as Chuck called it.

Well I don't think there's any signs at all pointing towards us moving up to take Haliburton or we would have heard of them.

That said, if Ainge sees a player he is certain could be a starter for us and wants to trade up to get him, that also works in my take the long view hopes.

We have to build for a team with the future of Tatum and Brown as the stars. They are both perhaps the best 3 and D guys in the league and Tatum can do a lot on the ball too.

But basically Tatum and Brown both thrive off ball, if you find a stud PG than that's perfect for them.

Lots of smoke in the first draft thread. Were coming out with Hali and Bane

Awesome!

Sorry I missed it.

I'm not sure if I love Hali because again that's someone playing with a bit of a disadvantage athletically, but I do truly think Tatum and Brown are some of the best 3 and D guards in the entire NBA and Smart is your classic 3 and D guard on a championship contender.

If you can give me someone who can do enough to be a threat on all 3 levels and set the table up for them... like again all of our core young pieces go into superstar mode playing off the ball.

Basically with Haliburton if he can develop into a 6'5" 190 lb Gordon Dragic so we can switch on defense with him... that would be amazing and I'd be fully down for that and it fits in perfectly with our 3 young guys of talent on the roster.

As for Bane, no one can knock his roleplaying potential. We need shooting in the lineup, and we may end up finding we have more shooting than we know what to do with if again a player like Haliburton is legit and gets Brown, Tatum, Smart consistent open 3s.

I wonder if Ainge is looking at it and says okay with Tatum I got the scoring I usually get from Kemba or an IT so I can afford to get a more defensive switchy PG that just sets the table up.

[AgentGreen]

https://nbadraftroom.com/p/2020-nba-mock-draft/

New mock by draftroom.

#14: R.J Hampton
#26: Zeke Nnaji
#30: Elijah Hughes

Ainge probably loving this mock draft. Another combo guard as your top pick. A guard who looks Westbrook light without the defense. If he fixes his shot he could be a solid NBA player, not a fan of his defensive game. If not for his defensive issues, i would've said that this guy is hands down the biggest sleeper in the draft.

[Floody100]

Is it worth trading up to try & get Nesmith ?

[celticfan42487]

I think I'd rather have 3 shots at this draft than trading up for 1.

With no personal workouts and a limited amount of tape to study I don't think anyone can have much more than a guess based on tape than they could before.

The Celtics have a habit of grading some players higher than the norm but I think that's due to our private workouts highlighting different things than other teams...

It just seem in a year with no information you're more likely to have a lot of "uh oh he should have been drafted a lot higher than he was" this year than any other.

[TommyPointGawd]

I think I'd rather have 3 shots at this draft than trading up for 1.

With no personal workouts and a limited amount of tape to study I don't think anyone can have much more than a guess based on tape than they could before.

The Celtics have a habit of grading some players higher than the norm but I think that's due to our private workouts highlighting different things than other teams...

It just seem in a year with no information you're more likely to have a lot of "uh oh he should have been drafted a lot higher than he was" this year than any other.

This is a good draft to have 3 rolls of the dice. The current roster can't support 3 more rookies though

[100proof]

Is it worth trading up to try & get Nesmith ?

No.

If team trades up it is for 1 of 2 players, imo.

Haliburton or Wiseman. Wiseman seems unlikely so that leaves a PG with potential that he can be an ideal pairing for Smart/Brown/Tatum

[100proof]

https://nbadraftroom.com/p/2020-nba-mock-draft/

New mock by draftroom.

#14: R.J Hampton
#26: Zeke Nnaji
#30: Elijah Hughes

Ainge probably loving this mock draft. Another combo guard as your top pick. A guard who looks Westbrook light without the defense. If he fixes his shot he could be a solid NBA player, not a fan of his defensive game. If not for his defensive issues, i would've said that this guy is hands down the biggest sleeper in the draft.

I really like RJ. Not sure the fit at times, but no concern about the defense. at all

[Kalela]

Celtics apparently love Xavier Tillman of Michigan State according to the internet. He is a 6'8" center. I think.

[Duke4life831]

Well after watching a particularly poignant video breaking down the Celtics. I've completely changed my desires from what I was looking to add in the draft. I was looking at it mainly for bench players to add the finishing touches to this team (and if we're lucky starting lineup Center). But I realize a wise GM should be taking the longer view.

We have a budding near MVP (we'll see how next season goes) in Tatum who is 22. A just below all-star in Brown who is 23. And a great defensive sixth man x factor in Smart that's 26.

I love Kemba but he might not be around for the long haul with his what 3 surgeries on his knee and after 4 months off he wasn't able to get it healthy from rest? Not sure why 3 more months after playing on hit for a month would get it better and he's 30 and short... things don't get easier in your 30s.

So now my #1 desire at #14 is Cole Anthony. Who may be a complete **** bust, or he might be the next Kemba himslef.

On the off shot he is, and he can raise himself to that level while Kemba falls down that would give Tatum and Brown a consistent all-star type guard to work with.


After that I also, if he's there in at 26/30 would like to get Poku and see if he can become anything in 2 years. Honestly it's worth the look and we can send him off on a loan to get better and free up a roster spot I'm sure if he doesn't seem ready in camp. We can bring back guys like Kanter and Brad Wannamaker next year instead and it's good to have that X-factor cooking in the oven that might be around to give Tatum that help when he just STARTS his prime 2 years from now.


In leiu of those with the 30th pick any playmaking PG or Center or 3 and D will do. The most competent one of those positions we have needs on the team for will work out.

But I had recency bias knowing we had a second round kind of team make the ECF in a weird year (Bucks historic fall, Durant out). We have to get back to looking at this draft as the last time we have multiple picks and taking the guys that might do great things in our starting lineup 2 years from now for us knowing Hayward is only going to decline as a player and Kemba frankly isn't someone we're certain won't either. This was Tatum's break out season at 22, not him entering his prime.... and we need to try to be loaded as much as we can in his prime to not waste those years and have him demand to be traded during it.

I personally don't see the fit with Cole. If anything with the growth of Tatum and Brown the need of a player like Kemba is pretty little. So I don't see drafting a guy with the hope that one day he might end up like a Kemba.

Cole is a small shoot first PG that doesn't play defense. They just seems like the worst possible fit to go with Tatum and Brown.

I get trading up to try and get Haliburton. Fantastic size, good facilitator and good shooter. I also get sitting back and grabbing someone like

Terry: a sharpshooter with some wriggle to his game.
Nico: good facilitator and good potential with his shot
Jones: fantastic defender, fantastic facilitator

Id take all of those guys over the fit of Cole. Plus I think Cole has a far higher bust rate than any of those guys.