Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21

ConstableGeneva · Post #21 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 11:38 am

Potential bench scorer targets: Schroder, D-Rose, Warren, Redick, D.Brooks, McDermott, Mills, Curry, Redick, Gay

Hayward, Edwards for Rudy Gay, Patty Mills, and Tyler Filler

Both Mills and Gay are expiring but we might be able to convince either one to re-sign on short contract after next season. Mills can convince fellow Boomer Aron Baynes to come back to Boston as an FA. All three have played under Pop, which is always a plus. VETS! SCORING! BANGER BIG!

Kemba / Fire / Ice / Gay / Timelord
Mills / Cobra / Ro-Ro / The General / BDE
rooks, SexPants, Bangers

I think we duck the tax with that deal. If Baynes is in, maybe trade Poirier into someone's TPE to make room for a minimum vet. Tacko and #47 as two-ways.

MagicBagley18 · Post #22 » by **MagicBagley18** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 1:09 pm

chrisab123 wrote:The more that I think about it the more I can't see Ainge angering Brad by trading Hayward. I think he's very likely to stay.

Every trade I propose for him is what I think should be considered....but I agree I don’t think he gets traded

WeLikeOurGuys · Post #23 » by **WeLikeOurGuys** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 1:29 pm

Hayward and 14
for
John Collins

Question Can Atlanta sign Collins to a extension and trade him to us? they would have the cap space to absorb Haywards salary.

Collins
Tatum
Brown
Smart
Kemba

MagicBagley18 · Post #24 » by **MagicBagley18** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 2:06 pm

R9ndo wrote:Hayward and 14
for
John Collins

Question Can Atlanta sign Collins to a extension and trade him to us? they would have the cap space to absorb Haywards salary.

Collins
Tatum
Brown
Smart
Kemba

Collins value is way higher than that....if that was possible I think we do it in a second

100proof · Post #25 » by **100proof** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 2:29 pm

chrisab123 wrote:The more that I think about it the more I can't see Ainge angering Brad by trading Hayward. I think he's very likely to stay.

No, Danny will not keep a player around just because the coach likes him.

ConstableGeneva · Post #26 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 2:35 pm

100proof wrote:
chrisab123 wrote:The more that I think about it the more I can't see Ainge angering Brad by trading Hayward. I think he's very likely to stay.

No, Danny will not keep a player around just because the coach likes him.

He will trade Hayward AND Brad if there's a deal out there that will make us better.

Green89 · Post #27 » by **Green89** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 3:10 pm

100proof wrote:
chrisab123 wrote:The more that I think about it the more I can't see Ainge angering Brad by trading Hayward. I think he's very likely to stay.

No, Danny will not keep a player around just because the coach likes him.

My guess is if they trade Gordon to anywhere other than Indiana, that it signals Brad is also gone. No way they tick off Brad by not only trading his free agent signed college player, but then trade him to a crap destination after all he's been through with the team.

I think Gordon's either staying or headed to Indy.

Post #28 » by **djFan71** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 4:01 pm

Green89 wrote:
100proof wrote:
chrisab123 wrote:The more that I think about it the more I can't see Ainge angering Brad by trading Hayward. I think he's very likely to stay.

No, Danny will not keep a player around just because the coach likes him.

My guess is if they trade Gordon to anywhere other than Indiana, that it signals Brad is also gone. No way they tick off Brad by not only trading his free agent signed college player, but then trade him to a crap destination after all he's been through with the team.

I think Gordon's either staying or headed to Indy.

Danny doesn't screw his big players in deals for the most part. It's likely that if he's traded, Gordon will be OK with it and so will Brad, imo.

MagicBagley18 · Post #29 » by **MagicBagley18** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 4:05 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:
100proof wrote:
chrisab123 wrote:The more that I think about it the more I can't see Ainge angering Brad by trading Hayward. I think he's very likely to stay.

No, Danny will not keep a player around just because the coach likes him.

He will trade Hayward AND Brad if there's a deal out there that will make us better.

What if brads argument is it doesn’t make us better and ainge is thinking about the future? I don’t it’s a slam dunk

ConstableGeneva · Post #30 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 4:11 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:
100proof wrote:
No, Danny will not keep a player around just because the coach likes him.

He will trade Hayward AND Brad if there's a deal out there that will make us better.

What if brads argument is it doesn’t make us better and ainge is thinking about the future? I don’t it’s a slam dunk

Ainge has the longer view in the room when talking about "making us better".

BK_2020 · Post #31 » by **BK_2020** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 4:22 pm

John Collins is a guy who the Hawks might not even extend for the rookie max. The idea that a tall jumpy guy who catches lobs and does some spot-up shooting is more valuable than Hayward and 14 is a little misinformed. A wing who can defend, switch, create his own shot and create for others is the most valuable asset in basketball.
75% of Collins's 2 pointers are assisted. 99% of his 3s are assisted. He depends on others to create for him even more than Deandre Jordan.

MagicBagley18 · Post #32 » by **MagicBagley18** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 4:36 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:He will trade Hayward AND Brad if there's a deal out there that will make us better.

What if brads argument is it doesn’t make us better and ainge is thinking about the future? I don’t it’s a slam dunk

Ainge has the longer view in the room when talking about "making us better".

I agree...I just think with brads connnection to Hayward and a coach always wanting what’s best for the team in the immediate- it’s not a given but we will have to see

Ernest · Post #33 » by **Ernest** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 4:51 pm

Green89 wrote:
100proof wrote:
chrisab123 wrote:The more that I think about it the more I can't see Ainge angering Brad by trading Hayward. I think he's very likely to stay.

No, Danny will not keep a player around just because the coach likes him.

My guess is if they trade Gordon to anywhere other than Indiana, that it signals Brad is also gone. No way they tick off Brad by not only trading his free agent signed college player, but then trade him to a crap destination after all he's been through with the team.

I think Gordon's either staying or headed to Indy.

I think Brad is a big boy and can handle it if Ainge trades away Hayward. I'd be very surprised if Brad started whining about it or threatened anything to keep Hayward here. Look at the team Brad had when he first got here, 100 moves later look what he has. I think he's probably ok with whatever Ainge decides.

Celts17Pride · Post #34 » by **Celts17Pride** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 4:55 pm

Tatum is 22 years old
Brown is 23 years old
Smart is 26 years old
RW3 is 22 years old
Langford is 20 years old
G Williams is 21 years old

Any Gordon Hayward trade has to bring back a young piece either off someone's roster or the draft that can grow with that group otherwise I am not interested. Young vet in the 22-27 year old range. Celtics can get vets through the vet min contracts, trading late first round picks or with the MLE.

Post #35 » by **Darth Celtic** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 5:41 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:Tatum is 22 years old
Brown is 23 years old
Smart is 26 years old
RW3 is 22 years old
Langford is 20 years old
G Williams is 21 years old

Any Gordon Hayward trade has to bring back a young piece either off someone's roster or the draft that can grow with that group otherwise I am not interested. Young vet in the 22-27 year old range. Celtics can get vets through the vet min contracts, trading late first round picks or with the MLE.

yet people complain that we didn't win it all this year and brad should be fired... blah blah blah.

Some people don't always see the big picture.

playa-hater · Post #36 » by **playa-hater** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 6:31 pm

Ernest wrote:Heres an idea everyone will hate: Why not take a chance on Boogie Cousins? Who knows if he can stay healthy or will have a good attitude, but we can always cut him. If he was healthy and bought in to the team he could be great at center for us. Look at Howard in LAL. People thought he was done, or at least not a good teammate. He already burned the bridge in LA. But hes there and doing well. Just an idea.

I say at least "kick the tires" though Cousins and boy-scout locker-room Brad might be a disaster waiting to happen

playa-hater · Post #37 » by **playa-hater** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 6:32 pm

Roddy wrote:

no way Utah does this trade..

playa-hater · Post #38 » by **playa-hater** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 6:34 pm

chrisab123 wrote:The more that I think about it the more I can't see Ainge angering Brad by trading Hayward. I think he's very likely to stay.

LOL, Brad doesn't ever get mad..

keevsnick1 · Post #39 » by **keevsnick1** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 6:46 pm

Parliament10 wrote:I still like this Trade, and I'm stick to it.:

Proposed Rotation, 2020-21:
Kemba - Brown - Tatum - G.Williams - Turner
Smart - Langford - Lamb - McDermott - R.Williams/Theis
Waters - Wanamaker/Edwards - (Rookie)
Maine Red Claws = (Rookie), Fall

Not sure why we need to give up ANY picks in that deal. I like Turner, but Hayward is the best player in that deal and Lamb is coming off from basically destroying his leg and probably has little value right now. I Hayward for Turner/McDermitt is a pretty even Swap to be honest.

GoCeltics123 · Post #40 » by **GoCeltics123** » Tue Oct 6, 2020 7:01 pm

playa-hater wrote:
Ernest wrote:Heres an idea everyone will hate: Why not take a chance on Boogie Cousins? Who knows if he can stay healthy or will have a good attitude, but we can always cut him. If he was healthy and bought in to the team he could be great at center for us. Look at Howard in LAL. People thought he was done, or at least not a good teammate. He already burned the bridge in LA. But hes there and doing well. Just an idea.

I say at least "kick the tires" though Cousins and boy-scout locker-room Brad might be a disaster waiting to happen

Nah.

Coming off an ACL tear and an achilles tear a few years ago? Pass. Howard was healthy, just a garbage person (he lost a lot of weight too) before he got back to LA.