Hard to Believe Ainge will Make any Move Soon Trade Thread

LewisnotMiller · Post #21 » by **LewisnotMiller** » Fri Jan 8, 2021 6:41 am

Curmudgeon wrote:
Green89 wrote:It's hard to see us sit on the TPE while Waters and Edwards continue to get minutes.

They can get plenty of minutes-- so long as the team wins. Edwards played well last night.

I was really hoping the kid could can one of those corner threes, for his confidence.
He worked hard, filled lanes...I was pleasantly surprised (although man he looks short contesting jumpshots...!)

Ernest · Post #22 » by **Ernest** » Fri Jan 8, 2021 7:30 am

I guess he played well. He didn’t screw up but kind of felt like his points were just because he was there. I mean anyone would sprint up the court when there is a fast break off a steal. He still hasn’t shown me anything to get my hopes up that he will ever crack a 9 man playoff rotation in the nba.

Asian Celtic · Post #23 » by **Asian Celtic** » Fri Jan 8, 2021 8:48 am

LewisnotMiller wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:
Green89 wrote:It's hard to see us sit on the TPE while Waters and Edwards continue to get minutes.

They can get plenty of minutes-- so long as the team wins. Edwards played well last night.

I was really hoping the kid could can one of those corner threes, for his confidence.
He worked hard, filled lanes...I was pleasantly surprised (although man he looks short contesting a kelly olynyk pumpfake...!)

Fixed.

Afam · Post #24 » by **Afam** » Fri Jan 8, 2021 8:55 am

That was close lol. I was always going to win. All I do is win.

Afam · Post #25 » by **Afam** » Fri Jan 8, 2021 9:00 am

Harden is a better player than Bradley Beal. Beal is just younger. For those clamoring to acquire Beal, it is going to cost you Jaylen, and harden is better player. He is better than both Jaylen and Beal. Celtics fans or should I say some sometimes are interested in acquiring a star player from other teams but not interested in paying the price, fair value. That’s not how you do business or how the NBA works.

You want a star player young or old, it is going to cost Jaylen, even Tatum but he is untouchable as of now . Keep that in the back of your head when proposing a trade to acquire a player of significance. It starts with Jaylen then fillers.

TheOGJabroni · Post #26 » by **TheOGJabroni** » Fri Jan 8, 2021 12:42 pm

Ernest wrote:When thinking about who to get as a mid season pickup- personality might be as important as anything. Last night in the heat game when Brown and Tatum went cold and we lost our early need, it seemed like we need someone to get people to snap out of the funk. A proven scorer off the bench would help, but we have guys who can score. Some of giving up leads in mental. I don't know who the right personality is, but that is an important question. As good as they are Brown and Tatum are still very young- like brain not fully developed young. Thats why Vice Carter and Rose appeal to me. If not them someone like them. A vet everyone will respect and listen too.

I actually agree with this sentiment but putting Vince Carter (retired and washed for years now) and Derick Rose in the same breath is interesting :lol:

I would take Rose but I think there could be better fits. I know he's improved his shot over the years but someone who is deadlier from three would be ideal. Preferably a real (s)wing player and not someone who is just forced off the ball because we have no other options.

CeltsFlow · Post #27 » by **CeltsFlow** » Fri Jan 8, 2021 1:16 pm

I'm kind of interested in Rudy Gay as an option off the bench, though not sure how the Spurs value him atm

JediMasterRevan · Post #28 » by **JediMasterRevan** » Fri Jan 8, 2021 1:54 pm

Kemba, Romeo to Orlando
Fournier, Thies and pick (s) to Toronto
Lowry and Vooch to Boston

itrsteve · Post #29 » by **itrsteve** » Fri Jan 8, 2021 2:35 pm

Afam wrote:You want a star player young or old, it is going to cost Jaylen, even Tatum but he is untouchable as of now . Keep that in the back of your head when proposing a trade to acquire a player of significance. It starts with Jaylen then fillers.

x800 - As of right now, I'm not willing to entertain any of them. Jaylen has been constantly ascending, no reason to cash in now.

jfs1000d · Post #30 » by **jfs1000d** » Fri Jan 8, 2021 4:03 pm

Can’t trade Brown. He is one of the top two-way players in nba. How many guys play at his motor, with his defense and score?

Is he better than harden? No. But age, versatility and contract are also considerations.

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BK_2020 · Post #31 » by **BK_2020** » Fri Jan 8, 2021 4:20 pm

Jaylen sucks at defense guys. Every single advanced stat confirms that, as well as the eye test.

jmr07019 · Post #32 » by **jmr07019** » Fri Jan 8, 2021 4:46 pm

BK_2020 wrote:Jaylen sucks at defense guys. Every single advanced stat confirms that, as well as the eye test.

Exactly. That's why he is always put on the other teams best player.

Ernest · Post #33 » by **Ernest** » Fri Jan 8, 2021 4:56 pm

Afam wrote:Harden is a better player than Bradley Beal. Beal is just younger. For those clamoring to acquire Beal, it is going to cost you Jaylen, and harden is better player. He is better than both Jaylen and Beal. Celtics fans or should I say some sometimes are interested in acquiring a star player from other teams but not interested in paying the price, fair value. That’s not how you do business or how the NBA works.

You want a star player young or old, it is going to cost Jaylen, even Tatum but he is untouchable as of now . Keep that in the back of your head when proposing a trade to acquire a player of significance. It starts with Jaylen then fillers.

Ok thank you teacher. Please tell us more about how the nba works.

Ernest · Post #34 » by **Ernest** » Fri Jan 8, 2021 4:57 pm

BK_2020 wrote:Jaylen sucks at defense guys. Every single advanced stat confirms that, as well as the eye test.

Hey I know you, you're the guy who is always wrong.

MagicBagley18 · Post #35 » by **MagicBagley18** » Fri Jan 8, 2021 4:59 pm

Ernest wrote:
Afam wrote:Harden is a better player than Bradley Beal. Beal is just younger. For those clamoring to acquire Beal, it is going to cost you Jaylen, and harden is better player. He is better than both Jaylen and Beal. Celtics fans or should I say some sometimes are interested in acquiring a star player from other teams but not interested in paying the price, fair value. That’s not how you do business or how the NBA works.

You want a star player young or old, it is going to cost Jaylen, even Tatum but he is untouchable as of now . Keep that in the back of your head when proposing a trade to acquire a player of significance. It starts with Jaylen then fillers.

Ok thank you teacher. Please tell us more about how the nba works.

I mean he’s right tho

Floody100 · Post #36 » by **Floody100** » Fri Jan 8, 2021 4:59 pm

BK_2020 wrote:Jaylen sucks at defense guys. Every single advanced stat confirms that, as well as the eye test.

Are you going to bring up these advanced stats ? Or are you just Couch 2.0 ?

Scarletfire81 · Post #37 » by **Scarletfire81** » Fri Jan 8, 2021 5:00 pm

BK_2020 wrote:Jaylen sucks at defense guys. Every single advanced stat confirms that, as well as the eye test.

And people ask me, “when do people on here trash Jaylen?”

Saying he sucks is a little strong don’t you think?

jmr07019 · Post #38 » by **jmr07019** » Fri Jan 8, 2021 5:01 pm

On some fronts it makes sense to trade Theis. We have Thompson and Time Lord to play all the center minutes. Theis is expiring while the other 2 are under contract for next year. We will be up against or into the tax next year and likely can't afford to pay Theis even 15/year. In the same way that Hayward's departure allowed Brown to blossom I think trading Theis and forcing Brad to play Time Lord more would be great for the team.

On the other hand who is giving anything of value for Theis? He's an expiring, soon to be 29 year old undersized center. Bird rights don't come with the trade so you would need cap space to sign him in the offseason (unless you can get him for the MLE). We need a team looking to win that needs a center. That team potentially also needs to have cap space next year.

Ernest · Post #39 » by **Ernest** » Fri Jan 8, 2021 5:11 pm

jmr07019 wrote:On some fronts it makes sense to trade Theis. We have Thompson and Time Lord to play all the center minutes. Theis is expiring while the other 2 are under contract for next year. We will be up against or into the tax next year and likely can't afford to pay Theis even 15/year. In the same way that Hayward's departure allowed Brown to blossom I think trading Theis and forcing Brad to play Time Lord more would be great for the team.

On the other hand who is giving anything of value for Theis? He's an expiring, soon to be 29 year old undersized center. Bird rights don't come with the trade so you would need cap space to sign him in the offseason (unless you can get him for the MLE). We need a team looking to win that needs a center. That team potentially also needs to have cap space next year.

Maybe at the deadline a playoff team will be willing to overpay if their center goes down. But last time we traded a center midseason it didn't work out too well. I feel like losing Theis would hurt more than we think. Although it seems like the refs are not letting him do that pick a seal move anymore which was great last year.

Ernest · Post #40 » by **Ernest** » Fri Jan 8, 2021 5:15 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:
Ernest wrote:
Afam wrote:Harden is a better player than Bradley Beal. Beal is just younger. For those clamoring to acquire Beal, it is going to cost you Jaylen, and harden is better player. He is better than both Jaylen and Beal. Celtics fans or should I say some sometimes are interested in acquiring a star player from other teams but not interested in paying the price, fair value. That’s not how you do business or how the NBA works.

You want a star player young or old, it is going to cost Jaylen, even Tatum but he is untouchable as of now . Keep that in the back of your head when proposing a trade to acquire a player of significance. It starts with Jaylen then fillers.

Ok thank you teacher. Please tell us more about how the nba works.

I mean he’s right tho

All star players are traded for fair value? I didn't realize that, well I guess you and Afam have taught me a thing or two.