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Around the NBA (and other Sports) 2021-22, Part 3

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Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics, Playoff version) 2021, Part 3 

Post#21 » by Celtics_Champs » Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:02 am

What a turnaround for this franchise in my eyes. I couldn’t stand them during the ZaZa years. I puke thinking about them. Now I find myself chewing my nails and pumping my fist over a Capela put back.

It kind of started last season before the pandemic and right after NH made sports betting legal. I would drop my wife off for work and place the overs on Trae young point total. He did something unthinkable by actually winning me money. Good times. Go Hawks.
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Post#22 » by Triple7 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:07 am

Bar Fight wrote:Trae really gonna lead his team to the Finals before Tatum :nonono:


We had a chance last year but we choked. Poor coaching, no leadership, bunch of isos by Tatum and Kemba to finish games. The Hawks have a well balanced roster with good legit bigs and a bunch of shooters. Good coach as well
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Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics, Playoff version) 2021, Part 3 

Post#23 » by Ill News » Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:04 am

Hawks are this year's Heat. They're peaking at the right time, and it seems like no one can stop them. They're just making big play after big play in crunch time, they're 13-2 in close games. That's a whopping number.

A Hawks-Suns finals would be fantastic. The Point God going up against the second coming of Steve Nash. I'm already salivating at that matchup.
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Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics, Playoff version) 2021, Part 3 

Post#24 » by MaxwellSmart » Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:53 am

playa-hater wrote:If Trey young didn't have the most annoying face I would be such a big fan lol


Great young player....but I get a Green Goblin vibe from him....like I did from Delonte.
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Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics, Playoff version) 2021, Part 3 

Post#25 » by Fierce1 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:57 am

John Collins playing solid basketball in the playoffs.
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Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics, Playoff version) 2021, Part 3 

Post#26 » by Tyakack » Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:00 am

This year is so wide open for anyone to win it. Sucks we had to face a healthy nets team in the first round while being riddled with injuries. We had our chance last year to make the finals though. A very realistic chance and we blew it. Hopefully we get another realistic chance soon somehow.....
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Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics, Playoff version) 2021, Part 3 

Post#27 » by FlatearthZorro » Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:33 am

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Bar Fight wrote:Trae really gonna lead his team to the Finals before Tatum :nonono:


We had a chance last year but we choked. Poor coaching, no leadership, bunch of isos by Tatum and Kemba to finish games. The Hawks have a well balanced roster with good legit bigs and a bunch of shooters. Good coach as well


What sepparates us from the Hawks is the amount of fire power they have- Huerter/Young/Gallo/Bogdanovic/Lou Williams/Collins and even Capella is putting work on offense.

Compare that our benches/starting unit for the past 3-4 years. Brown and Tatum are better than Trae/Collins, but everything else is in Hawks favore. Hawks are dang fun to watch, but they have some serious decisions to make regarding their roster. Young and Collins will be making what 60+ mils in CAP combined? They have 16 mils in Capella and 16 in Bogdanovic long term(Gallo will expire after next season) and then they have Huerter and Hunter. Something's gotta give.

I wrote it before, I'll write it agian, Danny did a really poor job of providing a bench and overall adequate supporting cast for Brown/Tatum.

Tbh, in games 3 and 5, the Nets left most of our role players completely open and we couldn't make most of our wide open 3s.
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PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics, Playoff version) 2021, Part 3 

Post#28 » by FlatearthZorro » Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:34 am

Ill News wrote:Hawks are this year's Heat. They're peaking at the right time, and it seems like no one can stop them. They're just making big play after big play in crunch time, they're 13-2 in close games. That's a whopping number.

A Hawks-Suns finals would be fantastic. The Point God going up against the second coming of Steve Nash. I'm already salivating at that matchup.


Young is the evil version of Nash. He actually has that vibe as well with that angry face. :lol: 8-)
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PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Post#29 » by FlatearthZorro » Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:35 am

We need Fournier back and an adequate bench and anything's possible.
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PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Post#30 » by Ill News » Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:35 am

Tyakack wrote:This year is so wide open for anyone to win it. Sucks we had to face a healthy nets team in the first round while being riddled with injuries. We had our chance last year to make the finals though. A very realistic chance and we blew it. Hopefully we get another realistic chance soon somehow.....

If we had a healthy Hayward for all of the playoffs last season, we'd have been in the Finals. The Heat wouldn't have been able to run circles around us and their zone wouldn't have bamboozled the team as much.

But alas, the basketball gods just hated the thought of Hayward ever contributing to the Celtics, so they sniped his ankle. They must have hated the Brad-Hayward connection so much, they've been screwing with them since their Butler days :lol:
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Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics, Playoff version) 2021, Part 3 

Post#31 » by FlatearthZorro » Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:38 am

Ill News wrote:
Tyakack wrote:This year is so wide open for anyone to win it. Sucks we had to face a healthy nets team in the first round while being riddled with injuries. We had our chance last year to make the finals though. A very realistic chance and we blew it. Hopefully we get another realistic chance soon somehow.....

If we had a healthy Hayward for all of the playoffs last season, we'd have been in the Finals. The Heat wouldn't have been able to run circles around us and their zone wouldn't have bamboozled the team as much.

But alas, the basketball gods just hated the thought of Hayward ever contributing to the Celtics, so they sniped his ankle. They must have hated the Brad-Hayward connection so much, they've been screwing with them since their Butler days :lol:


I believe the Heat won 2 games by combined of 2-3 pts in that series. So they didn't run circles around us. It's embarrassing how bad our bench has been. We need to take actions in that regard and we can compete with absolutely anybody.
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PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics, Playoff version) 2021, Part 3 

Post#32 » by Ill News » Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:41 am

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Ill News wrote:
Tyakack wrote:This year is so wide open for anyone to win it. Sucks we had to face a healthy nets team in the first round while being riddled with injuries. We had our chance last year to make the finals though. A very realistic chance and we blew it. Hopefully we get another realistic chance soon somehow.....

If we had a healthy Hayward for all of the playoffs last season, we'd have been in the Finals. The Heat wouldn't have been able to run circles around us and their zone wouldn't have bamboozled the team as much.

But alas, the basketball gods just hated the thought of Hayward ever contributing to the Celtics, so they sniped his ankle. They must have hated the Brad-Hayward connection so much, they've been screwing with them since their Butler days :lol:


I believe the Heat won 2 games by combined of 2-3 pts in that series. So they didn't run circles around us. It's embarrassing how bad our bench has been. We need to take actions in that regard and we can compete with absolutely anybody.

Yeah, those wins were comebacks by the Heat. We badly needed a stabilizer in those games when they were roaring back or frustrating us with a zone, which Hayward would've been. But no use crying over spilled milk, it was just unfortunate.

I think Brad already has a couple of pieces to make a good bench. Fournier (if re-signed) and Horford would be the pillars of the bench, and young guys like Nesmith and Langford could progress next season into reliable contributors. Then there's Parker too. Just get rid of the fat (Semi and Grant) and bring in some useful, tough-minded vets like what the Bucks did with Tucker and Portis.
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Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics, Playoff version) 2021, Part 3 

Post#33 » by ParticleMan » Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:06 am

Bucks make a habit of losing the first game of a series and then owning. Folks here should know that as well as anyone.
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Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics, Playoff version) 2021, Part 3 

Post#34 » by FlatearthZorro » Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:19 am

ParticleMan wrote:Bucks make a habit of losing the first game of a series and then owning. Folks here should know that as well as anyone.


They still have a great chance to win this, but that Hawks team is really talented on offense. Bucks cannot drop off on the Young PnR.
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Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics, Playoff version) 2021, Part 3 

Post#35 » by FlatearthZorro » Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:38 am

Ill News wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:
Ill News wrote:If we had a healthy Hayward for all of the playoffs last season, we'd have been in the Finals. The Heat wouldn't have been able to run circles around us and their zone wouldn't have bamboozled the team as much.

But alas, the basketball gods just hated the thought of Hayward ever contributing to the Celtics, so they sniped his ankle. They must have hated the Brad-Hayward connection so much, they've been screwing with them since their Butler days :lol:


I believe the Heat won 2 games by combined of 2-3 pts in that series. So they didn't run circles around us. It's embarrassing how bad our bench has been. We need to take actions in that regard and we can compete with absolutely anybody.

Yeah, those wins were comebacks by the Heat. We badly needed a stabilizer in those games when they were roaring back or frustrating us with a zone, which Hayward would've been. But no use crying over spilled milk, it was just unfortunate.

I think Brad already has a couple of pieces to make a good bench. Fournier (if re-signed) and Horford would be the pillars of the bench, and young guys like Nesmith and Langford could progress next season into reliable contributors. Then there's Parker too.


Batum or Ross are guys that I would like to have, too. Promote Fournier to starting SG, trade for Ross, sign Batum. You'd have Horfie/Batum/Ross and
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PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics, Playoff version) 2021, Part 3 

Post#36 » by Triple7 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:56 am

FlatearthZorro wrote:
Triple7 wrote:
Bar Fight wrote:Trae really gonna lead his team to the Finals before Tatum :nonono:


We had a chance last year but we choked. Poor coaching, no leadership, bunch of isos by Tatum and Kemba to finish games. The Hawks have a well balanced roster with good legit bigs and a bunch of shooters. Good coach as well


What sepparates us from the Hawks is the amount of fire power they have- Huerter/Young/Gallo/Bogdanovic/Lou Williams/Collins and even Capella is putting work on offense.

Compare that our benches/starting unit for the past 3-4 years. Brown and Tatum are better than Trae/Collins, but everything else is in Hawks favore. Hawks are dang fun to watch, but they have some serious decisions to make regarding their roster. Young and Collins will be making what 60+ mils in CAP combined? They have 16 mils in Capella and 16 in Bogdanovic long term(Gallo will expire after next season) and then they have Huerter and Hunter. Something's gotta give.

I wrote it before, I'll write it agian, Danny did a really poor job of providing a bench and overall adequate supporting cast for Brown/Tatum.

Tbh, in games 3 and 5, the Nets left most of our role players completely open and we couldn't make most of our wide open 3s.


I agree. Danny did a poor job the last 3-4 seasons. Not making moves before deadlines, while teams are getting players for their playoff push. Brown and Tatum, are probably better individually, but Collins and Trae compliment each other. One is a dead set shooter that passes the ball well when needed. Collins is very athletic. Can shoot and post up, and is very unselfish. He is willing to do the dirty work. Rebound and defend. They have legit bigs that is not 6’8 and below. Timelord is 6’8, TT is 6’7. Last season Theis was 6’8. They work hard, but sometimes that’s just not enough. Plus you are right. They have a bunch of shooters. Legit shooters. We have Smart and Semi chucking up 3’s. They have a coach that can relate to players in Nate. No wonder their team took off when ownership had the guts to fire a coach if already uneffective. Stevens have been bad the couple of years. It’s no secret players deliberately not following Stevens. How else can you explain the non stop chucking of 3’s and hero ball. I’m glad he was promoted, because i doubt, anything changes if he was still our coach. Now he is off to a good start to getting our team balanced. Plus it’s ni e to be finally be a big team for once. Smart should be a bench player. We need a pg that can shoot and facilitate. Smart had his chance last season, but that’s not really his game. Lets see what stevens does next.
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Post#37 » by Triple7 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:59 am

FlatearthZorro wrote:We need Fournier back and an adequate bench and anything's possible.


I like fournier too. He is a legit shooter and a vet. We need some more shooter/scorers off the bench.
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Post#38 » by FlatearthZorro » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:22 am

Triple7 wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:We need Fournier back and an adequate bench and anything's possible.


I like fournier too. He is a legit shooter and a vet. We need some more shooter/scorers off the bench.


His game resembles that of Hayward. Haywrad when healthy is better, but Fournier can pass, run PnR, attack off the dribble and shoot. He's like Bogdanovic. IF we can get Fournier for 16 mils that's a steal, cause he can get a 17-20 ppg which would be a very decent 3rd option.
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Post#39 » by Triple7 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:33 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:
Triple7 wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:We need Fournier back and an adequate bench and anything's possible.


I like fournier too. He is a legit shooter and a vet. We need some more shooter/scorers off the bench.


His game resembles that of Hayward. Haywrad when healthy is better, but Fournier can pass, run PnR, attack off the dribble and shoot. He's like Bogdanovic. IF we can get Fournier for 16 mils that's a steal, cause he can get a 17-20 ppg which would be a very decent 3rd option.


I agree. Plus the defense thing is way over blown. I can see him try hard on defense. He is no slouch. It’s not like all defense Smart has no defensive lapses himself. A full off season with the new coach, and more time with his teammAtes, will do wonders for him. I just don’t think we could get him at 16-17M, 20M will probably do it, but other teams can offer him a starting job, so i don’t like our chances.
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Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics, Playoff version) 2021, Part 3 

Post#40 » by BleedGreen1989 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:35 pm

Celtics_Champs wrote:What a turnaround for this franchise in my eyes. I couldn’t stand them during the ZaZa years. I puke thinking about them. Now I find myself chewing my nails and pumping my fist over a Capela put back.

It kind of started last season before the pandemic and right after NH made sports betting legal. I would drop my wife off for work and place the overs on Trae young point total. He did something unthinkable by actually winning me money. Good times. Go Hawks.


Seabrook?

How does that even work? I'm in the Portsmouth area and keep wanting to wander down there and place some bets.

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