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Post#21 » by Parliament10 » Sun Sep 26, 2021 2:50 pm

Homerclease wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:
Homerclease wrote:Grant Williams is bad, can’t defend anything and is on the verge of eating himself out of the league. The GM who drafted him is out, his coach is new and Grant has shown little to no desire to actually work on his game in the offseason. Why people think he’s a lock to make this team baffles me

Where are you getting this information from?

What information?

"Grant Williams is bad,"
"can’t defend anything and"
"is on the verge of eating himself out of the league."
"Grant has shown little to no desire to actually work on his game in the offseason."


That information.
Where are you getting these assertions from?


I haven't seen any proof of any of this.
If Stevens believed any of this, then he would have Traded Grant Williams.
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Nothing is given."

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Re: Outsider Evaluation series on Celticsblog 

Post#22 » by Homerclease » Sun Sep 26, 2021 2:56 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
Homerclease wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:Where are you getting this information from?

What information?

"Grant Williams is bad,"
"can’t defend anything and"
"is on the verge of eating himself out of the league."
"Grant has shown little to no desire to actually work on his game in the offseason."


That information.
Where are you getting these assertions from?


I haven't seen any proof of any of this.
If Stevens believed any of this, then he would have Traded Grant Williams.

My opinion, since he actively hurt the Celtics whenever he played last season.

Also my opinion, his defense fell off a cliff last year.

My eyes. Grant has put on a significant amount of weight since being drafted and it drastically effected his play last season.

If you find a video that isn’t Grant on a beach in Mexico, inquiring about pool tables or heck, anything of him performing basketball activities you’d be the first. He turned down summer league because he was “too tired” meanwhile Tatum is playing in the olympics and Brown is working like a madman. That’s why those guys are good and Grant isn’t.

You’re also assuming that anyone else wanted anything to do with Grant Williams in a trade. I have no doubt he was dangled in the numerous moves that the Celtics made in the offseason. My gut tells me nobody wanted him
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Re: Outsider Evaluation series on Celticsblog 

Post#23 » by Parliament10 » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:02 pm

Homerclease wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:
Homerclease wrote:What information?

"Grant Williams is bad,"
"can’t defend anything and"
"is on the verge of eating himself out of the league."
"Grant has shown little to no desire to actually work on his game in the offseason."


That information.
Where are you getting these assertions from?


I haven't seen any proof of any of this.
If Stevens believed any of this, then he would have Traded Grant Williams.

My opinion, since he actively hurt the Celtics whenever he played last season.

Also my opinion, his defense fell off a cliff last year.

My eyes. Grant has put on a significant amount of weight since being drafted and it drastically effected his play last season.

If you find a video that isn’t Grant on a beach in Mexico, inquiring about pool tables or heck, anything of him performing basketball activities you’d be the first. He turned down summer league because he was “too tired” meanwhile Tatum is playing in the olympics and Brown is working like a madman. That’s why those guys are good and Grant isn’t.

You’re also assuming that anyone else wanted anything to do with Grant Williams in a trade. I have no doubt he was dangled in the numerous moves that the Celtics made in the offseason. My gut tells me nobody wanted him

OK.
Stevens Traded a good amount of players, that nobody wanted.

Starting with Kemba, and ending with Edwards.
If Stevens wanted him gone, G. Will would be gone.
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Re: Outsider Evaluation series on Celticsblog 

Post#24 » by Homerclease » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:07 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
Homerclease wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:"Grant Williams is bad,"
"can’t defend anything and"
"is on the verge of eating himself out of the league."
"Grant has shown little to no desire to actually work on his game in the offseason."


That information.
Where are you getting these assertions from?


I haven't seen any proof of any of this.
If Stevens believed any of this, then he would have Traded Grant Williams.

My opinion, since he actively hurt the Celtics whenever he played last season.

Also my opinion, his defense fell off a cliff last year.

My eyes. Grant has put on a significant amount of weight since being drafted and it drastically effected his play last season.

If you find a video that isn’t Grant on a beach in Mexico, inquiring about pool tables or heck, anything of him performing basketball activities you’d be the first. He turned down summer league because he was “too tired” meanwhile Tatum is playing in the olympics and Brown is working like a madman. That’s why those guys are good and Grant isn’t.

You’re also assuming that anyone else wanted anything to do with Grant Williams in a trade. I have no doubt he was dangled in the numerous moves that the Celtics made in the offseason. My gut tells me nobody wanted him

OK.
Stevens Traded a good amount of players, that nobody wanted.

Starting with Kemba, and ending with Edwards.
If Stevens wanted him gone, G. Will would be gone.

I never said Stevens wanted him gone, you did. I would HOPE Ime has some say on who he wants on his basketball team after training camp. With all the guys being brought in, Grants roster spot is far from secured
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Re: Outsider Evaluation series on Celticsblog 

Post#25 » by Parliament10 » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:20 pm

Homerclease wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:
Homerclease wrote:My opinion, since he actively hurt the Celtics whenever he played last season.

Also my opinion, his defense fell off a cliff last year.

My eyes. Grant has put on a significant amount of weight since being drafted and it drastically effected his play last season.

If you find a video that isn’t Grant on a beach in Mexico, inquiring about pool tables or heck, anything of him performing basketball activities you’d be the first. He turned down summer league because he was “too tired” meanwhile Tatum is playing in the olympics and Brown is working like a madman. That’s why those guys are good and Grant isn’t.

You’re also assuming that anyone else wanted anything to do with Grant Williams in a trade. I have no doubt he was dangled in the numerous moves that the Celtics made in the offseason. My gut tells me nobody wanted him

OK.
Stevens Traded a good amount of players, that nobody wanted.

Starting with Kemba, and ending with Edwards.
If Stevens wanted him gone, G. Will would be gone.

I never said Stevens wanted him gone, you did. I would HOPE Ime has some say on who he wants on his basketball team after training camp. With all the guys being brought in, Grants roster spot is far from secured

Fair Enough.

Edit:
It's just, that when you post assertions, like they're Facts, it gets a bit confusing.
Again, I disagree with what you wrote. But, if that's just your opinion, then fine.:


"Grant Williams is bad,"
"can’t defend anything and"
"is on the verge of eating himself out of the league."
"Grant has shown little to no desire to actually work on his game in the offseason."
"You have to put the work in.
Nothing is given."

~ Jayson Tatum

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