Craft your 2022-23 Celtics Roster – (20-Man Off-Season)

[Feed Your Head]

Smart/PP
Beal/White
Jaylen/Grant
Tatum/Slow Mo
Rob/Theis

[Parliament10]

White, Theis, Nesmith, and 2-3 first round picks for the best player available.

This is priority #1 that Stevens should be working on this summer.

That a Massive Overpay, and giving up too much.

[Celts17Pride]

White, Theis, Nesmith, and 2-3 first round picks for the best player available.

This is priority #1 that Stevens should be working on this summer.

That a Massive Overpay, and giving up too much.

Depends who you get back

[brackdan70]

Pretty effective 8 man rotation under contract.
Tatum, Brown, Smart, Williams, Horford, Williams, White, Pritchard. I think keeping all those guys makes sense. Theis and Nesmith are also under contract so easy keep. I like the depth that Theis adds. Stauskis and all the rest of the bench riff raft is really inconsequential. I think you look for experienced depth…a wing and maybe another big with mid level exemptions and what not, maybe get a player in the second round.
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.

[brackdan70]

Smart/PP
Beal/White
Jaylen/Grant
Tatum/Slow Mo
Rob/Theis

So trading Horford for Beal in that scenario?

[Feed Your Head]

Smart/PP
Beal/White
Jaylen/Grant
Tatum/Slow Mo
Rob/Theis

So trading Horford for Beal in that scenario?

I’m a bad, bad man.

I don’t expect it to happen though, think Beal signs the massive contract and stays.

[brackdan70]

Though I feel pretty good about running it back with those 10 players under contract, I think exploring some creative options with that Fornier trade exemption is worth considering. Looking for a solid bench wing or another useful big seems worth some tax.

[Mr_Mojo_Risin]

Smart/PP
Beal/White
Jaylen/Grant
Tatum/Slow Mo
Rob/Theis

BOOOOOOOOO!!!!

No one is allowed to trade Al, can we make that a requirement of this thread please?

Obviously Beal is a very good player but I'm still not sold on him unless we get him for free or for very little.

I like Slow Mo.

[hugepatsfan]

Pritchard has been playing well but I think we need to upgrade his spot in the rotation. I look at 3 things you ask for out of a bench guard or wing:

1) Do you have size/length to defend multiple positions without being hunted on switches?
2) Can you set the table for others as a playmaker?
3) Can you make open shots?

Pritchard does #3 well enough. He competes well enough point on point #1 where he doesn't kill you, but he's still a weakness there. He either isn't capable or isn't trusted as #2 though. He's entirely off ball, they don't trust him to make plays at all.

We can talk big moves like Beal or Ayton, but those are pretty big changes. Scale it back to more of a "tinkering" level of acquisition and this would be my target. Try to find someone who can take Pritchard's 8th/9th man role in the playoff rotation that brings you two of these things as opposed to just 1.

By all means, go get a guy who brings all 3 if you can. But I have a tough time imagining you can get a guy who does all 3 without subtracting a key player off the roster. And I don't think we really want to sacrifice the shooting. So really I'm looking for either 1) a 3&D wing/guard with size or 2) a PG that can make plays off the bounce and also shoot

For me I look at how devastating our turnover problem has been at times and I think until Tatum and especially Brown take another leap or two as ball handlers/playmakers, we probably need to upgrade there. So I'd look to add a PG that can make plays in the P&R himself but also space the floor. That way when Smart sits or is inured you aren't relying so much on Tatum or especially Brown to basically play point forward. I like White much more as someone who attacks an already in rotation defense vs putting them in rotation himself. I think he can play the point with Tatum on the court if Smart is sitting, but do not like him playing the point when Tatum and Smart are off the court.

Just being practical, if you want a PG who can handle and shoot you probably have to live with some size issues on defense the way we do with Pritchard. But that's ok. Plenty of great defensive teams have had small players play huge minutes, I'm just looking for someone to play 15-20 minutes a night, maybe even less at times.

[Homerclease]

Send Theis to China and spend the MLE on a better third big. Otherwise run it back the same

[sam_I_am]

Please no Marcus Morris.

I didn’t mean literally Morris who is actually a bad fit because he doesn’t move the ball. I just mean a guy similar to what he was for the 2017 team - versatile defensively, capable of scoring and physical enough to play PF. Basically a taller Grant type player to back him up.

[165bows]

Pritchard has been playing well but I think we need to upgrade his spot in the rotation. I look at 3 things you ask for out of a bench guard or wing:

1) Do you have size/length to defend multiple positions without being hunted on switches?
2) Can you set the table for others as a playmaker?
3) Can you make open shots?

Pritchard does #3 well enough. He competes well enough point on point #1 where he doesn't kill you, but he's still a weakness there. He either isn't capable or isn't trusted as #2 though. He's entirely off ball, they don't trust him to make plays at all.

We can talk big moves like Beal or Ayton, but those are pretty big changes. Scale it back to more of a "tinkering" level of acquisition and this would be my target. Try to find someone who can take Pritchard's 8th/9th man role in the playoff rotation that brings you two of these things as opposed to just 1.

By all means, go get a guy who brings all 3 if you can. But I have a tough time imagining you can get a guy who does all 3 without subtracting a key player off the roster. And I don't think we really want to sacrifice the shooting. So really I'm looking for either 1) a 3&D wing/guard with size or 2) a PG that can make plays off the bounce and also shoot

For me I look at how devastating our turnover problem has been at times and I think until Tatum and especially Brown take another leap or two as ball handlers/playmakers, we probably need to upgrade there. So I'd look to add a PG that can make plays in the P&R himself but also space the floor. That way when Smart sits or is inured you aren't relying so much on Tatum or especially Brown to basically play point forward. I like White much more as someone who attacks an already in rotation defense vs putting them in rotation himself. I think he can play the point with Tatum on the court if Smart is sitting, but do not like him playing the point when Tatum and Smart are off the court.

Just being practical, if you want a PG who can handle and shoot you probably have to live with some size issues on defense the way we do with Pritchard. But that's ok. Plenty of great defensive teams have had small players play huge minutes, I'm just looking for someone to play 15-20 minutes a night, maybe even less at times.

We've had some similar thoughts on this issue. Where I'm at is they need another bigger big man, another primary ballhandler, and they need another player that can shoot. And ideally one of those guys is a plus defender while the other is adequate. So they've got those traits to fill across a couple of players.

So maybe a guy like Rubio or Delon Wright as a backup is an option if they can get a quality big who can defend and space the floor. Or they can just get a more classic center if they can find the well rounded guard depth like you describe. So there is FA plus the smaller trade chips to get that done.

After seeing the pressure issues this team has faced, I'd consider even looking at Rubio/Delon Wright as guards, Dieng, Joe Ingles, Kaminsky even, maybe tough to afford/give enough minutes guys like Tyus Jones, Otto Porter (looks like he took a lot less to play with a contender once already), or Isaiah Hartenstein. I like Kyle Anderson for this team in terms of his play-making but not sure he fills the rest of the areas well enough. Trade guys like you mentioned Alec Burks, Steven Adams (too bad he doesn't quite fit into the TPE).

[playa-hater]

There are a few things I will add down the road. But for now INCORPORATE Hauser in the rotation. He is a damn legit shooter at decent size. the "make you payers" on offense is what the Js and the offense needs Bigtime.

[BK_2020]

I am also excited about Hauser. It's only about 10 games but he put up an absurd volume of threes in the G-leagues, which is nothing to scoff at.

[hugepatsfan]

https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2022/4/3/23004822/detroit-pistons-isaiah-stewart-defense-film-dont-lie

Pistons rumored to have interest in a DeAndre Ayton signing/sign-and-trade. Seems unlikely a rookie scale guy would be made available, but for those that want another big, this could be a guy worth checking in on if he becomes expendable for them.

[165bows]

https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2022/4/3/23004822/detroit-pistons-isaiah-stewart-defense-film-dont-lie

Pistons rumored to have interest in a DeAndre Ayton signing/sign-and-trade. Seems unlikely a rookie scale guy would be made available, but for those that want another big, this could be a guy worth checking in on if he becomes expendable for them.

Pritchard would actually be a good fit for them. Could add Joseph into the mix coming back as well. Not sure if I like it but it's interesting idea.

[darrendaye]

BTW, I'm still hanging on the Harry Giles train.

[CelticFaninLBC]

https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2022/4/3/23004822/detroit-pistons-isaiah-stewart-defense-film-dont-lie

Pistons rumored to have interest in a DeAndre Ayton signing/sign-and-trade. Seems unlikely a rookie scale guy would be made available, but for those that want another big, this could be a guy worth checking in on if he becomes expendable for them.

Can't see them giving up Stewart, but can see them wanting to move Olynyk's $12.8 million. Am not sure if Stevens is a big Olynyk fan, but he's better than Theis.

[CelticsPride18]

Nesmith and a pick for Kyle Kuzma

[CelticFaninLBC]

Nesmith and a pick for Kyle Kuzma

Pick from Washington? Kuzma's so overrated.