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Who do you Vote, to make the Playoff Rotation?

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Who will be in the Playoff Rotation? Assume, Smart - Brown - Tatum - Horford - R. Williams.

1) Brogdon
59
23%
2) White
59
23%
3) Grant
45
18%
4) Hauser
38
15%
5) Muscala
14
6%
6) Griffin
16
6%
7) Kornet
2
1%
8) Pritchard
4
2%
9) Gallinari
1
0%
10) Positional Matchup
15
6%
 
Total votes: 253

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Post#21 » by Hal14 » Sun Apr 9, 2023 3:01 pm

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Hal14 wrote:C'mon now. Smart has started literally every game he's played in for each of the past 2 seasons (we've had the #1 net rating in the league each of the past 2 seasons). We're not going to just tell him out of nowhere that he's gonna come off the bench, right when the playoffs are about to start.

Let's be realistic here.

Smart is simply Not the Best choice.
Why not go with what works better?

We're trying to Win a Championship. Not appease a particular player.
And mind you, Smart is my Favorite Active NBA player. Has been since his Rookie Season.

Something else works better - based on what?

Again, Smart has started every game he's played in for each of the past 2 seasons and we've had the #1 net rating in the league for each of the past 2 seasons.

I see no reason to change now.
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Post#22 » by darrendaye » Sun Apr 9, 2023 4:51 pm

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Hal14 wrote:C'mon now. Smart has started literally every game he's played in for each of the past 2 seasons (we've had the #1 net rating in the league each of the past 2 seasons). We're not going to just tell him out of nowhere that he's gonna come off the bench, right when the playoffs are about to start.

Let's be realistic here.

Smart is simply Not the Best choice.
Why not go with what works better?

We're trying to Win a Championship. Not appease a particular player.
And mind you, Smart is my Favorite Active NBA player. Has been since his Rookie Season.


I still like Smart starting. I want to have elements out there that encourage more activity and movement. Getting the Jays and Al to start the game up tempo is easier than having them maintain that. Smart out there gives the best chance of saving their legs some on defense. White and Timelord are both guys who promote faster pace of play on offense. I still prefer White off the bench to jolt the energy, especially when Brogdon comes in, who also can fall into iso heavy tendencies.
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Re: Who do you Vote, to make the Playoff Rotation? 

Post#23 » by Triple7 » Sun Apr 9, 2023 4:58 pm

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Parliament10 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:C'mon now. Smart has started literally every game he's played in for each of the past 2 seasons (we've had the #1 net rating in the league each of the past 2 seasons). We're not going to just tell him out of nowhere that he's gonna come off the bench, right when the playoffs are about to start.

Let's be realistic here.

Smart is simply Not the Best choice.
Why not go with what works better?

We're trying to Win a Championship. Not appease a particular player.
And mind you, Smart is my Favorite Active NBA player. Has been since his Rookie Season.


I still like Smart starting. I want to have elements out there that encourage more activity and movement. Getting the Jays and Al to start the game up tempo is easier than having them maintain that. Smart out there gives the best chance of saving their legs some on defense. White and Timelord are both guys who promote faster pace of play on offense. I still prefer White off the bench to jolt the energy, especially when Brogdon comes in, who also can fall into iso heavy tendencies.


It doesn’t matter much who starts, it’s who finishes, and the best lineup to finish would be the Jays with white, brogdon and Horford. All of can shoot the 3, and can score inside as well. A nightmare defensively for opposing teams. Also they are no slouch on D. Sorry Marcus, but your poor shooting proves to be to much of a liablity in the closing mins, and is affecting how the teams defend the Jays.
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Post#24 » by darrendaye » Sun Apr 9, 2023 5:30 pm

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darrendaye wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:Smart is simply Not the Best choice.
Why not go with what works better?

We're trying to Win a Championship. Not appease a particular player.
And mind you, Smart is my Favorite Active NBA player. Has been since his Rookie Season.


I still like Smart starting. I want to have elements out there that encourage more activity and movement. Getting the Jays and Al to start the game up tempo is easier than having them maintain that. Smart out there gives the best chance of saving their legs some on defense. White and Timelord are both guys who promote faster pace of play on offense. I still prefer White off the bench to jolt the energy, especially when Brogdon comes in, who also can fall into iso heavy tendencies.


It doesn’t matter much who starts, it’s who finishes, and the best lineup to finish would be the Jays with white, brogdon and Horford. All of can shoot the 3, and can score inside as well. A nightmare defensively for opposing teams. Also they are no slouch on D. Sorry Marcus, but your poor shooting proves to be to much of a liablity in the closing mins, and is affecting how the teams defend the Jays.


IMO, this argument has more weight.
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Re: Who do you Vote, to make the Playoff Rotation? 

Post#25 » by Parliament10 » Sun Apr 9, 2023 6:26 pm

Grant is screwing up alot, end of the Season. I'm feeling like we should go with Hauser and Griffin more, in the Playoffs?
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Post#26 » by Triple M » Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:51 am

We have a solid 7.

Use Grant in specific match ups but i wasnt to see more Hauser then we have the last few weeks
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Re: Who do you Vote, to make the Playoff Rotation? 

Post#27 » by Jacobkowal » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:07 am

I want Hauser, Muscala and Griffin in there before I want Grant. They have simply been better than him for the last 2-3 months, and offer more in terms of shooting or passing.
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Post#28 » by Triple7 » Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:46 am

Jacobkowal wrote:I want Hauser, Muscala and Griffin in there before I want Grant. They have simply been better than him for the last 2-3 months, and offer more in terms of shooting or passing.



I agree. Grant has been just too annoying to watch. Lazy defense. Not boxing out and constant complaining. He can definitely play against embiid though, or against Giannis in spot mins. I agree hauler, muscala, and Blake should be ahead.
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Post#29 » by Hal14 » Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:39 pm

Jacobkowal wrote:I want Hauser, Muscala and Griffin in there before I want Grant. They have simply been better than him for the last 2-3 months, and offer more in terms of shooting or passing.

Griffin is a better shooter than Grant? :crazy:
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Post#30 » by Celts17Pride » Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:24 pm

Celtics are going to go with their Top 8 - Tatum, Brown, White, Brogdon, G Williams, Horford, Smart and R Williams.

Others will play if needed - Hauser, Griffin, Prichard, Muscala

Wave those towels - Kornet, Gallinari, Champagnie

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Post#31 » by 31to6 » Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:33 pm

I think Hauser has 'tied' or pulled ahead of Grant in the rotation battle, and if we got lucky and faced ATL in round 1, I'd bet Sam plays early and often, and Grant barely gets off the bench.

But against PHI or MIL and maybe MIA too, I think it quickly reverts to Grant as the default, because he defends bigs better than Hauser does. (Then again, Hauser might be used in a way to get a big or too off of the floor.) (Then again, who knows what will happen, and if Joe will reward/ride anyone with a hot hand?)
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Post#32 » by Celts17Pride » Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:07 pm

31to6 wrote:I think Hauser has 'tied' or pulled ahead of Grant in the rotation battle, and if we got lucky and faced ATL in round 1, I'd bet Sam plays early and often, and Grant barely gets off the bench.

But against PHI or MIL and maybe MIA too, I think it quickly reverts to Grant as the default, because he defends bigs better than Hauser does. (Then again, Hauser might be used in a way to get a big or too off of the floor.) (Then again, who knows what will happen, and if Joe will reward/ride anyone with a hot hand?)

The only reason I disagree with you is because the Celtics only have 3 "Bigs" - Horford, R Williams and G Williams. Grant Williams is going to play a lot in the playoffs.
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Post#33 » by Celticsfan100 » Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:05 pm

Grant can guard Bam, Giannis, Butler, etc.. Hauser cannot. I agree Grant will play a lot in the playoffs and hopefully his shot is falling. Regardless the playoffs are a different animal. It’s nothing like the regular season.
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Post#34 » by 31to6 » Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:49 pm

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31to6 wrote:I think Hauser has 'tied' or pulled ahead of Grant in the rotation battle, and if we got lucky and faced ATL in round 1, I'd bet Sam plays early and often, and Grant barely gets off the bench.

But against PHI or MIL and maybe MIA too, I think it quickly reverts to Grant as the default, because he defends bigs better than Hauser does. (Then again, Hauser might be used in a way to get a big or too off of the floor.) (Then again, who knows what will happen, and if Joe will reward/ride anyone with a hot hand?)

The only reason I disagree with you is because the Celtics only have 3 "Bigs" - Horford, R Williams and G Williams. Grant Williams is going to play a lot in the playoffs.


The Cs have gone 'single big' a lot this season. Al 24-30 min and Rob 24-30 min and you're set against a lot of teams. NOT Mil or Phi though so I agree Grant is likely to play quite a bit if the Cs find themselves playing those teams. If he doesn't bring the requisite intensity though, Joe knows damn well that Blake will -- so Contract-Year Williams has a lot to play for!
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Post#35 » by Celts17Pride » Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:52 pm

31to6 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
31to6 wrote:I think Hauser has 'tied' or pulled ahead of Grant in the rotation battle, and if we got lucky and faced ATL in round 1, I'd bet Sam plays early and often, and Grant barely gets off the bench.

But against PHI or MIL and maybe MIA too, I think it quickly reverts to Grant as the default, because he defends bigs better than Hauser does. (Then again, Hauser might be used in a way to get a big or too off of the floor.) (Then again, who knows what will happen, and if Joe will reward/ride anyone with a hot hand?)

The only reason I disagree with you is because the Celtics only have 3 "Bigs" - Horford, R Williams and G Williams. Grant Williams is going to play a lot in the playoffs.


The Cs have gone 'single big' a lot this season. Al 24-30 min and Rob 24-30 min and you're set against a lot of teams. NOT Mil or Phi though so I agree Grant is likely to play quite a bit if the Cs find themselves playing those teams. If he doesn't bring the requisite intensity though, Joe knows damn well that Blake will -- so Contract-Year Williams has a lot to play for!

Don't forget R Williams plays in about 50% of the games in his career. That will most likely continue unfortunately.

Celtics need G Williams to play well.
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Post#36 » by Jacobkowal » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:58 pm

Hal14 wrote:
Jacobkowal wrote:I want Hauser, Muscala and Griffin in there before I want Grant. They have simply been better than him for the last 2-3 months, and offer more in terms of shooting or passing.

Griffin is a better shooter than Grant? :crazy:


I wrote shooting or passing. I believe Griffin is a way better passer than Grant.
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Post#37 » by Hal14 » Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:37 am

Jacobkowal wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
Jacobkowal wrote:I want Hauser, Muscala and Griffin in there before I want Grant. They have simply been better than him for the last 2-3 months, and offer more in terms of shooting or passing.

Griffin is a better shooter than Grant? :crazy:


I wrote shooting or passing. I believe Griffin is a way better passer than Grant.

Oh ok, gotcha. Guess I missed that part.
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Post#38 » by Jacobkowal » Tue Apr 11, 2023 5:27 am

Hal14 wrote:
Jacobkowal wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Griffin is a better shooter than Grant? :crazy:


I wrote shooting or passing. I believe Griffin is a way better passer than Grant.

Oh ok, gotcha. Guess I missed that part.


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Post#39 » by FlatearthZorro » Tue Apr 11, 2023 7:34 am

I would take Muscala over Grant, easily. I think Grant may be frustrated due to him expecting 20, 20+ mils a year contract and not getting it, also his head getting a bit too big and him thinking he's better than he actually is. Believe that was proven by the fact that he managed to lose us 3 games on his own this regular season.
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Post#40 » by Triple7 » Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:37 am

FlatearthZorro wrote:I would take Muscala over Grant, easily. I think Grant may be frustrated due to him expecting 20, 20+ mils a year contract and not getting it, also his head getting a bit too big and him thinking he's better than he actually is. Believe that was proven by the fact that he managed to lose us 3 games on his own this regular season.


I agree with this. You can see the effort with muscala. Grant, on the other hand, had been lazy. Failure to box out on rebounds, getting blown by easily, and the constant complaining. Maybe he can play on certain matchups, or if rob doesn’ play in a game. If his shooting is off, then he’s really unplayeable on most games.

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