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Trade/Free Agency Thread pt 4 - 2023-24 Off-season - Thread Dread Redemption!

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Re: Shams: Celtics, Wizards in Trade Discussions Surrounding Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#21 » by Andrew McCeltic » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:46 pm

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Andrew McCeltic wrote:Why trade an injury prone young DPOY candidate making 12 million for an injury prone all-star candidate making 36 million? We still need depth.

I’m doing: Smart, Brogdon, Pritchard, Kornet
for Porzingis, Avdija, Delon Wright. Only adds 1 million in payroll this year - pre-Grant you’re at 158 million.

White/Wright/Davison
Jaylen/TBD
Tatum/Avdija/Hauser
Rob/Gallo
KP/Al/Muscala

You can keep Grant, sign and trade him, or let him walk and use the full MLE..


Why in hell would the Wizards do that?


A. They're trying to clear cap. Smaller contracts are easier to trade.
B. Smart and Brogdon have high re-sale value.
C. They have a surplus of wings and Avdija is both inconsistent and due for an extension. He also balances the priced-in risk with KP.
D. Wright is expendable for them and he fills a need for us.

Re: B., say they get Beasley/Bamba's expirings and 17 for Brogdon and THJ/10 for Smart.

Suddenly you've got 10, 17, and 17 million in salary commitments instead of 45. Depending on what they do with Chris Paul they could end up under the cap with a team headed right for the top 5 in the draft.

They're a clogged, clotted mess over there from previous management. Look at the Beal deal and ask "why in hell" they did that.
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Post#22 » by Andrew McCeltic » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:48 pm

Oh - and Porzingis has a small amount of leverage for the next week to decide his destination if it's an opt-in-and-trade.
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Re: Shams: Celtics, Wizards in Trade Discussions Surrounding Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#23 » by Andrew McCeltic » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:49 pm

Mods, is this "trade thread part 4"?
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Re: Shams: Celtics, Wizards in Trade Discussions Surrounding Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#24 » by sam_I_am » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:49 pm

Shams must be getting this from Wiz perspective. I don’t believe any of his Celtics rumors.
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Re: Shams: Celtics, Wizards in Trade Discussions Surrounding Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#25 » by Andrew McCeltic » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:50 pm

If it's KP's health and walk risk vs. Ayton's contract and mentality... Tough call..
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Post#27 » by Castle Black » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:51 pm

This sounds like it’s about to happen.

If the C’s can pull this off by only losing Brogdon + a draft pick, that’d be huge. And quite frankly a steal.

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Post#28 » by 165bows » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:53 pm

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165bows wrote:They’d be deep into apron land but yolo right?


Wouldn't be any different this upcoming season. They will send out as much $$ as $$ coming in (Zinger). JB's extension kicks in next season. So re-signing KP could be an issue, but let's not worry about that quite yet :D

True partly but going into the new league year they can only take back 10% more (or realistically zero more if they go into apron2) whereas before end of June they can take back 25% more than they send out.
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Post#29 » by 165bows » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:54 pm

Castle Black wrote:This sounds like it’s about to happen.

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Post#30 » by Andrew McCeltic » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:56 pm

First trade in Boston history that makes me want to throw up.. Risk is off the charts but the talent upgrade is, too.

Repeat: Brad's turned the tax MLE (Schroeder), Aaron Nesmith and the 26th pick in the draft into Kristaps Porzingis..
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Trade/Free Agency Thread pt 4 - 2023-24 Off-season - Thread Dread Redemption! (Celts trade for Porzingis) 

Post#31 » by bisme37 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:56 pm

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Re: Shams: Celtics, Wizards in Trade Discussions Surrounding Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#32 » by djFan71 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:56 pm

165bows wrote:
Castle Black wrote:This sounds like it’s about to happen.

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Oh damn this is on.

You were the first I saw to suggest this. I kinda meh'ed it at the time, but definitely came around.
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Post#33 » by watsonthedragon » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:56 pm

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Post#35 » by Larry_Russell » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:56 pm

Clippers get Brogdon and Kornet

washington gets #35, Future Clippers first, Morris, Muscala, Coffeey, Champagnie (all expirings)

Boston gets Porzingas and #30
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Post#36 » by 165bows » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:57 pm

#30 plus Boston pick to Washington. Great deal esp if it’s not more than one pick.

Wonder who the smaller salaries are.
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Post#37 » by Celtics_Champs » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:57 pm

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Post#38 » by meatball sub » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:57 pm

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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread pt 4 - 2023 Off-season - Thread Dread Redemption! 

Post#39 » by Celtics_Champs » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:57 pm

Clearly gonna happen, Shams put out the names
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread pt 4 - 2023 Off-season - Thread Dread Redemption! 

Post#40 » by Green89 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:57 pm

Grant out, Porzingis in, sounds like good moves to me.

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