Mid season tournament group c

[shackles10]

I would assume those extra games would not be counted in the regular season standings. Unsure if they would or would not count for counting stats, games played for qualifications of awards/contract bonuses, but the regular season standings thing would be most important clarification I would think.

[DarkAzcura]

I don’t really get why people are so negative about this. American sports are so boring with their unwillingness to change. I’m glad Silver is trying something even if the execution is modified over the years.

Tournament basketball is Tuesdays and Fridays until knockout stage. Easy to understand, fun to tune into.

what a stupid idea this is. I won't watch. Ever

Well unfortunately you won’t be able to avoid it unless you decide to stop watching the regular season on Tuesdays and Fridays in October/November.

[Triple M]

Not the group games.

The tournament round of -- 8? -- is additional.

Only the finals is extra; 2 teams will play 83 games instead of 82

I'm having a few problems guessing the rules.

First, we see rules that suggest 8 teams are coming out of the group stage. But dates suggest it's only a round of 4. Your comment suggests you assume the same thing. (If there were a 3 round tournament with only the final round not counting, the cap would be 84 rather than 83.)

Second, what does it mean to get extra games on the schedule? If the standings at the end of the season are determined by total wins, then doing well in the tournament can only be good. But if they are determined by percentage win-loss record, there can be negative effects.

From my understanding

1. Every team is scheduled to have 80 regular season games

2. 8 teams advancing will play
A) game 81 will be the quarter finals
B) Game 82 will be the semis for the winners
C) the losers in the semis will play each to reach 82 games

3. The 22 teams outside the knockout stage will play 2 games to reach 82

4. The finals wont count in the season total. Think of it how the play in dose not count to the regular season, so the final will be a stand alone.

[Fencer reregistered]

Only the finals is extra; 2 teams will play 83 games instead of 82

I'm having a few problems guessing the rules.

First, we see rules that suggest 8 teams are coming out of the group stage. But dates suggest it's only a round of 4. Your comment suggests you assume the same thing. (If there were a 3 round tournament with only the final round not counting, the cap would be 84 rather than 83.)

Second, what does it mean to get extra games on the schedule? If the standings at the end of the season are determined by total wins, then doing well in the tournament can only be good. But if they are determined by percentage win-loss record, there can be negative effects.

From my understanding

1. Every team is scheduled to have 80 regular season games

2. 8 teams advancing will play
A) game 81 will be the quarter finals
B) Game 82 will be the semis for the winners
C) the losers in the semis will play each to reach 82 games

3. The 22 teams outside the knockout stage will play 2 games to reach 82

4. The finals wont count in the season total. Think of it how the play in dose not count to the regular season, so the final will be a stand alone.

How does the #3 part work? When will those games be played, against whom?

[Triple M]

I'm having a few problems guessing the rules.

First, we see rules that suggest 8 teams are coming out of the group stage. But dates suggest it's only a round of 4. Your comment suggests you assume the same thing. (If there were a 3 round tournament with only the final round not counting, the cap would be 84 rather than 83.)

Second, what does it mean to get extra games on the schedule? If the standings at the end of the season are determined by total wins, then doing well in the tournament can only be good. But if they are determined by percentage win-loss record, there can be negative effects.

From my understanding

1. Every team is scheduled to have 80 regular season games

2. 8 teams advancing will play
A) game 81 will be the quarter finals
B) Game 82 will be the semis for the winners
C) the losers in the semis will play each to reach 82 games

3. The 22 teams outside the knockout stage will play 2 games to reach 82

4. The finals wont count in the season total. Think of it how the play in dose not count to the regular season, so the final will be a stand alone.

How does the #3 part work? When will those games be played, against whom?

[url]https://www.nba.com/news/in-season-tournament-101
[/url]

During the Knockout Rounds on days when In-Season Tournament games are not scheduled (Wednesday, Dec. 6 and Friday, Dec. 8), the 22 teams that do not qualify for the Knockout Rounds will each play two regular-season games.

Two of the 22 games will be scheduled cross-conference

The four teams that lose in the Quarterfinals will each play a regular-season game on Friday, Dec. 8, against the opponent in their same conference.

So by the end of the tourney all teams should be on target for 82 games. The leagues has done well in mu opinion of making this non intrusive while getting the benefit of knock out play.

My only concern is if they add a 2nd tournament in the 2nd half and water down the concept.

[Fencer reregistered]

From my understanding

1. Every team is scheduled to have 80 regular season games

2. 8 teams advancing will play
A) game 81 will be the quarter finals
B) Game 82 will be the semis for the winners
C) the losers in the semis will play each to reach 82 games

3. The 22 teams outside the knockout stage will play 2 games to reach 82

4. The finals wont count in the season total. Think of it how the play in dose not count to the regular season, so the final will be a stand alone.

How does the #3 part work? When will those games be played, against whom?

[url]https://www.nba.com/news/in-season-tournament-101
[/url]

During the Knockout Rounds on days when In-Season Tournament games are not scheduled (Wednesday, Dec. 6 and Friday, Dec. 8), the 22 teams that do not qualify for the Knockout Rounds will each play two regular-season games.

Two of the 22 games will be scheduled cross-conference

The four teams that lose in the Quarterfinals will each play a regular-season game on Friday, Dec. 8, against the opponent in their same conference.

So by the end of the tourney all teams should be on target for 82 games. The leagues has done well in mu opinion of making this non intrusive while getting the benefit of knock out play.

My only concern is if they add a 2nd tournament in the 2nd half and water down the concept.

So this indeed has a small parity effect in that teams that do well in the group rounds have better-than-average opponents for 2 subsequent games that count in the final standings.

[Smart2Nesmith43]

I'm not going to bash it until I see what it looks like. I wonder about the timing of the tournament though. Every team is trying to win or at least fielding their best players in November. If you want to up the stakes of regular season games surely it would have had more impact later in the season when the product is more diluted by tanking teams pulling their veterans/playoff teams resting stars.

[1st banana]

I know they decided against doing any sort of like benefit in the playoff seeding but what prize could really incentivize players other than money?

NBA should shell out like 50 mill to the winning team and maybe you’d get some juice.

Also I **** hate the name of the trophy nba cup? That has to be a joke lol.

[Curmudgeon]

So does the team that wins the "NBA cup" get to hang something from the rafters?

[navyblue]

I would assume those extra games would not be counted in the regular season standings. Unsure if they would or would not count for counting stats, games played for qualifications of awards/contract bonuses, but the regular season standings thing would be most important clarification I would think.

Only the 2 teams in the finals will play an extra game #83, and that game doesn't count towards standings, stats(player or team) etc.

[djFan71]

I know they decided against doing any sort of like benefit in the playoff seeding but what prize could really incentivize players other than money?

NBA should shell out like 50 mill to the winning team and maybe you’d get some juice.

Also I **** hate the name of the trophy nba cup? That has to be a joke lol.

Just make it so the winning team doesn't have to worry about the 2nd apron for the next year, and all restrictions are removed.

[31to6]

East Group C
Boston Celtics, Brooklyn Nets, toronto Raptors, Chicago Bulls, Orlando Magic
Who you got? and or do you care?
This looks like an easy bracket honestly!

ORL is going to **** dominate this bracket (I mean “group”) — it DOES look like an easy bracket for them!

I will care.

[1st banana]

I know they decided against doing any sort of like benefit in the playoff seeding but what prize could really incentivize players other than money?

NBA should shell out like 50 mill to the winning team and maybe you’d get some juice.

Also I **** hate the name of the trophy nba cup? That has to be a joke lol.

Just make it so the winning team doesn't have to worry about the 2nd apron for the next year, and all restrictions are removed.

I like that! I was thinking like an additional 1st rounder or like even playoff homecourt but that’s prob too much.