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Trade/Free Agency Thread, whose NINE is it anyways?? 2023-24

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Post#21 » by Larry_Russell » Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:59 pm

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Celts17Pride wrote:Just a guess on my part but I think Brad Stevens wants to sign Terence Davis as a backup wing with the taxpayer MLE but isn't going to do that until he finalizes a Brogdon trade to give himself more room from reaching the 2nd apron.

Just a guess.

Seems very reasonable but if Broggy goes they need a PG not a SG imo.



I feel like BRad is 100% convinced that Pritchard is an NBA level Point guard.
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Post#22 » by 165bows » Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:02 pm

Can Murray be traded yet or no? Can’t remember if he has a restriction. I got super bored with all the Hawks trade ideas, but is a 3-way Brogdon/Siakam/D. Murray trade insane? Boston would kick picks in and get a younger guy locked into a longer deal?

Plus the irony of D. Murray becoming the third guard behind Derrick White is lol.
Edit: can’t be traded until Jan.
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Post#23 » by Larry_Russell » Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:03 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:Just a guess on my part but I think Brad Stevens wants to sign Terence Davis as a backup wing with the taxpayer MLE but isn't going to do that until he finalizes a Brogdon trade to give himself more room from reaching the 2nd apron.

Just a guess.



I am well aboard the Davis train.

Really like this kid as he brings defense, shooting, some playmaking.

Has turned himself into a nice player, I guy I would love to have off the bench.

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Post#24 » by Larry_Russell » Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:07 pm

Also, last season when given at least 15 minutes per game davis went 12.7ppg, 3.9rpg, 1.5apg and 42.5% from 3 on 6 attempts
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Post#25 » by lon3lytoaster » Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:09 pm

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Celts17Pride wrote:Just a guess on my part but I think Brad Stevens wants to sign Terence Davis as a backup wing with the taxpayer MLE but isn't going to do that until he finalizes a Brogdon trade to give himself more room from reaching the 2nd apron.

Just a guess.



I am well aboard the Davis train.

Really like this kid as he brings defense, shooting, some playmaking.

Has turned himself into a nice player, I guy I would love to have off the bench.

;ab_channel=SacramentoKings


He’s still a free agent? What’s the deal?

But yes I figure they’re probably trying to find themselves as the third team taking on a wing like Bey or they’re going to move salary somewhere before they sign anyone else.

Definitely seems they’re not as in love with Brogdon as they near the 2nd apron. We’ll see what happens
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Post#26 » by 165bows » Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:10 pm

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zoyathedestroya wrote:Long-time lurker, first-time poster here. May I post a tweet I came across about the Celtics?

Read on Twitter

So Siakam out to a third team and something around Brogdon or PP to Toronto.

Def seems like there is something they have their eye on.

Just seems like it’s more about who they want to bring in rather than who they want to move. Ie, Brogdon and PP play somewhat similar positions but are otherwise totally different players, and at the thinnest position.

So the team just wants to jump into any action out there to move either one of them? Feels like they have a target in the back court but need to move someone to be able to bring that guy in. Just not sure who.
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Post#27 » by GoGreen » Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:11 pm

165bows wrote:Can Murray be traded yet or no? Can’t remember if he has a restriction. I got super bored with all the Hawks trade ideas, but is a 3-way Brogdon/Siakam/D. Murray trade insane? Boston would kick picks in and get a younger guy locked into a longer deal?

Plus the irony of D. Murray becoming the third guard behind Derrick White is lol.
Edit: can’t be traded until Jan.


He just signed an extension with the Hawks, so no Murray trades anytime soon sadly
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Post#28 » by Hal14 » Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:14 pm

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165bows wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:Just a guess on my part but I think Brad Stevens wants to sign Terence Davis as a backup wing with the taxpayer MLE but isn't going to do that until he finalizes a Brogdon trade to give himself more room from reaching the 2nd apron.

Just a guess.

Seems very reasonable but if Broggy goes they need a PG not a SG imo.



I feel like BRad is 100% convinced that Pritchard is an NBA level Point guard.

I doubt it. Since taking over as POBO, Brad has acquired 3 different guys (Brogdon, White, Schroder) who have gotten PG minutes over Pritchard.

Meanwhile, Pritchard's mins have been less and less. The very few non-garbage time mins he has gotten - he was playing mostly at the 2 and not at PG. Pritchard has asked for a trade multiple times. Brad also drafted a PG last year (Davison)..

I don't think Brad has much confidence in Pritchard contributing a whole lot for this team - especially at the PG position.
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Post#29 » by shackles10 » Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:16 pm

I'd rather sign Terence Davis than trade for Bey. Cheaper in the short and long term and a better shooter. Other than green hair missing from the roster this year can anyone tell me why we'd rather go that route?
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Post#30 » by Hal14 » Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:18 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:Also, last season when given at least 15 minutes per game davis went 12.7ppg, 3.9rpg, 1.5apg and 42.5% from 3 on 6 attempts

I'm on the Davis train as well.

Rumor has it, we're interested in Davis and also interested in trading for Bey. Bey is obviously better, but he's also more expensive and requires assets to acquire him in a trade.

I think Brad would like to get Bey if possible, and if not then Davis is the backup plan.

Might have to move Brogdon first though, to free up enough cap space to trade for Bey while staying under the 2nd apron..
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Post#31 » by GoCeltics123 » Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:20 pm

Read on Twitter


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Post#32 » by Hal14 » Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:22 pm

shackles10 wrote:I'd rather sign Terence Davis than trade for Bey. Cheaper in the short and long term and a better shooter. Other than green hair missing from the roster this year can anyone tell me why we'd rather go that route?

Bey is a better player. I'm not sure I agree that Davis is a better shooter - both were about 36% from 3 last season but bey did it on higher volume. And Bey had more of a track record of hot shooting prior to last season as well.

Also, Bey is 2 years younger so has more development still ahead of him so more upside to get better.

Only advantage with Davis IMO is that he's cheaper and doesn't require us to give up any assets in a trade. But if you can figure out how to swing a deal and make the $ work, I say get Bey. If not, Davis is a solid backup plan..
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Post#33 » by GoGreen » Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:26 pm

Hal14 wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:Also, last season when given at least 15 minutes per game davis went 12.7ppg, 3.9rpg, 1.5apg and 42.5% from 3 on 6 attempts

I'm on the Davis train as well.

Rumor has it, we're interested in Davis and also interested in trading for Bey. Bey is obviously better, but he's also more expensive and requires assets to acquire him in a trade.

I think Brad would like to get Bey if possible, and if not then Davis is the backup plan.

Might have to move Brogdon first though, to free up enough cap space to trade for Bey while staying under the 2nd apron..


Where are you seeing the Bey stuff? Checking twitter I'm just seeing a few randos talking, but nothing official from anyone.

Wouldn't hate it though
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Post#34 » by shackles10 » Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:32 pm

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shackles10 wrote:I'd rather sign Terence Davis than trade for Bey. Cheaper in the short and long term and a better shooter. Other than green hair missing from the roster this year can anyone tell me why we'd rather go that route?

Bey is a better player. I'm not sure I agree that Davis is a better shooter - both were about 36% from 3 last season but bey did it on higher volume. And Bey had more of a track record of hot shooting prior to last season as well.

Also, Bey is 2 years younger so has more development still ahead of him so more upside to get better.

Only advantage with Davis IMO is that he's cheaper and doesn't require us to give up any assets in a trade. But if you can figure out how to swing a deal and make the $ work, I say get Bey. If not, Davis is a solid backup plan..


A lot of words just to say it's the green hair
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Post#35 » by 165bows » Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:36 pm

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Osman or Bey

That guy is obsessed with bringing some crummy backup wing to Boston like this is 2010 and we are still trying to replace James Posey.
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Post#36 » by Hal14 » Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:36 pm

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Hal14 wrote:
shackles10 wrote:I'd rather sign Terence Davis than trade for Bey. Cheaper in the short and long term and a better shooter. Other than green hair missing from the roster this year can anyone tell me why we'd rather go that route?

Bey is a better player. I'm not sure I agree that Davis is a better shooter - both were about 36% from 3 last season but bey did it on higher volume. And Bey had more of a track record of hot shooting prior to last season as well.

Also, Bey is 2 years younger so has more development still ahead of him so more upside to get better.

Only advantage with Davis IMO is that he's cheaper and doesn't require us to give up any assets in a trade. But if you can figure out how to swing a deal and make the $ work, I say get Bey. If not, Davis is a solid backup plan..


A lot of words just to say it's the green hair

lol. I mean, it doesn't hurt. We lost Marcus, it's almost too obvious for us to replace him with the 1 other player in the league with green in his hair..
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Post#37 » by GoGreen » Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:44 pm

165bows wrote:
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Read on Twitter


Osman or Bey

That guy is obsessed with bringing some crummy backup wing to Boston like this is 2010 and we are still trying to replace James Posey.


A lot of people like to source him when it comes to cap stuff, but I find his trades are often really lackluster. I think he falls into a category of Celtics fans who are more interested in tidy bookkeeping than winning. Never been a big fan of his.
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Post#38 » by ddb » Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:46 pm

lon3lytoaster wrote:
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Celts17Pride wrote:Just a guess on my part but I think Brad Stevens wants to sign Terence Davis as a backup wing with the taxpayer MLE but isn't going to do that until he finalizes a Brogdon trade to give himself more room from reaching the 2nd apron.

Just a guess.



I am well aboard the Davis train.

Really like this kid as he brings defense, shooting, some playmaking.

Has turned himself into a nice player, I guy I would love to have off the bench.

;ab_channel=SacramentoKings


He’s still a free agent? What’s the deal?

But yes I figure they’re probably trying to find themselves as the third team taking on a wing like Bey or they’re going to move salary somewhere before they sign anyone else.

Definitely seems they’re not as in love with Brogdon as they near the 2nd apron. We’ll see what happens


He might have a handshake deal with Boston set, but Boston has financial hurdles to take care of prior to making anything official with Davis. Pure speculation, but this stuff happens all the time. I remember it happening with Crowder years ago. He was signed really late in the offseason because Ainge had things that needed to happen first in order for the Crowder $$ & deal to happen
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Post#39 » by 165bows » Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:47 pm

GoGreen wrote:
165bows wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:
Read on Twitter


Osman or Bey

That guy is obsessed with bringing some crummy backup wing to Boston like this is 2010 and we are still trying to replace James Posey.


A lot of people like to source him when it comes to cap stuff, but I find his trades are often really lackluster. I think he falls into a category of Celtics fans who are more interested in tidy bookkeeping than winning. Never been a big fan of his.

Used to be really solid imo, like some of the better posters here. Last few years he’s cried wolf about the team penny pinching and has been just like you say. He’s gotten into some weird vibe and it’s spilled over into the stuff written about the team imo.
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Post#40 » by steefP2 » Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:58 pm

lon3lytoaster wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:Just a guess on my part but I think Brad Stevens wants to sign Terence Davis as a backup wing with the taxpayer MLE but isn't going to do that until he finalizes a Brogdon trade to give himself more room from reaching the 2nd apron.

Just a guess.



I am well aboard the Davis train.

Really like this kid as he brings defense, shooting, some playmaking.

Has turned himself into a nice player, I guy I would love to have off the bench.

;ab_channel=SacramentoKings


He’s still a free agent? What’s the deal?

But yes I figure they’re probably trying to find themselves as the third team taking on a wing like Bey or they’re going to move salary somewhere before they sign anyone else.

Definitely seems they’re not as in love with Brogdon as they near the 2nd apron. We’ll see what happens


Maybe Brad doesn’t want to bring in a domestic violence offender onto the team as a 10th man. That would be enough for me

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