Hawks Fricasseed! Victory Cigar vs ATL 11/4

[Fencer reregistered]

I missed the game but looking at the box score Queta had 2 fouls in 23 minutes. He averages 5.5 fouls per 36 for his career including a comical 8.7 fouls/36 2 years ago. Gotta learn to not foul. Not a bad night in that department

Per the box score:

-- The Cs were +31 in the 23 minutes Queta played.
-- The Cs were -1 in the 25 minutes Queta sat out.

[djFan71]

I went headband Rondo brothers. Love that Walsh is getting consistent minutes,
I also liked the multiple drives from Hauser.

[Fierce1]

I went headband Rondo brothers. Love that Walsh is getting consistent minutes,
I also liked the multiple drives from Hauser.

That's why I'm very optimistic about the Cs winning multiple titles because of guys like Sam and Walsh.

If they continue to get better then this will be a dynasty all the way to the early 2030s.

[Fierce1]

JT with 9 assists and only 1 turnover.

The passing is great for JT.

Not so ridiculous now if you say JT is on Bird's level.

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[playa-hater]

I missed the game but looking at the box score Queta had 2 fouls in 23 minutes. He averages 5.5 fouls per 36 for his career including a comical 8.7 fouls/36 2 years ago. Gotta learn to not foul. Not a bad night in that department

Per the box score:

-- The Cs were +31 in the 23 minutes Queta played.
-- The Cs were -1 in the 25 minutes Queta sat out.

Stating the Obvious that small sample sizes can be extremely deceiving. But with that said Queta has provided great energy. He even guarded well on the perimeter on few occasions.

He is still very Raw and perhaps slow on making some recognitions, but he clearly is a talent worth developing IMO at least.

[Gant]

The productive night caps what may be a season-changing road trip for Queta. After starting the year as the team’s fourth string center behind Horford, Kornet and Xavier Tillman, Queta has emerged as an appealing weapon for Mazzulla ever since Wednesday’s near comeback win against the Pacers. Queta fueled that rally with his fourth quarter play and his consistency has been stellar in Boston’s last four games.

The transformation of Queta into a rotation-caliber player changes a lot of things for the Celtics in the big picture. In the short term, it helps them take some wear and tear off Al Horford (22 minutes) even with Kristaps Porzingis out of the lineup. Horford sustaining a lighter workload with the Celtics’ maintaining excellence in the standings is a huge deal. Queta is providing a different dimension (more rebounding, athleticism) than Kornet and Tillman provide, creating a three-headed monster at backup center that Mazzulla can mix and match with.

“He’s grown a lot as a player and quite honestly he doesn’t know how good he can be,” Mazzulla told reporters in Atlanta. “He’s got a great ceiling and so the standard is very high and I thought he did some great things for us tonight.”

“When you’re as good as he could be, we all got to hold him to that standard every single night,” Mazzulla said. “It’s a credit to them for allowing us to coach him, it’s a credit to the guys for supporting him. You see what he’s capable of when he’s at his best and he could be a real asset for us.

“He works really hard, he cares, he wants to be coached. I’m grateful he allows me to coach him. He’s starting to realize how good he can be and he’s working at it.”

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2024/11/celtics-center-impresses-amid-surprise-start-in-hawks-win.html

[darrendaye]

DWhite & Jrue have a combined four votes so far, but someone held Trae to 2/6 on 1/10 shooting.

Springer was giving him the stink eye from the bench, he was shook.

[darrendaye]

JT with 9 assists and only 1 turnover.

The passing is great for JT.

Not so ridiculous now if you say JT is on Bird's level.

I'm going to need to see some tip passes and a nutmeg pass or two before I entertain this.....

[Shak_Celts]

Can you imagine Queta realizing and then achieving who he looks like he could be? There are a lot of players that have it, but don’t have it upstairs. If queta can harness it, look out! We all hope it goes as great as it can.

With that said, I hope y’all don’t turn on Korny just because you want Queta to succeed, we don’t have to tear him down. No, saying you think he’s better isn’t tearing him down, it’s all the negative stuff you say about Korny, not because it’s true, but because you want it to be true is.


Joe is still going to play both of them, it’s up to them to carve out how much. The only way Korny can get minutes over Queta is if he out performs him. Whether you agree or not, they believe Korny is one of our better defenders. All of them say, he knows where he supposed to be and he usually does exactly what he supposed to do. Is he not supposed to perform well, just because you want someone else to play over him?

Queta can win the minutes, Joe has no problem playing him more. He’s just not going to play him if he doesn’t think it’s helping. We have to live with that because it’s about the team more than developing people right now. He’s going to get development, they’re going to try and force it as much as they can, but the bigger picture is winning, if he’s taking away from that, they’re not going to just put him out there when other guys are performing up to par.

We have to stop tearing our guys down, just because we want the guys we like to play more. We can just say Queta has earned playing time, without pretending that Korny hasn’t. The truth is both of them are good and that’s a good problem for Joe to sort through.

I wanted an upgrade over Korny too but the guy has gotten much better and he adds to winning, I hope the best guy gets the most minutes, no matter who it is!


Last season should show you that Joe is going to pick the person who helps the most, because if you look at the players that we had, he didn’t choose the best of them, he chose who he thought was going to help us most. Svi had the better résumé, if I’m not mistaken, but he didn’t play at all. I also think Lamar had a better one than Brissy but you see what happened. If Q performs consistently well, better than Korny, he’s going to get the minutes. I have no doubt.

We shouldn’t go to saying one guy is playing bad when he isn’t just because we want Q out there. Korny helped us win the game before, we don’t have to pretend like it didn’t happen.


When I say we, I truly mean it, because I want Walsh to get 20 minutes a night, with everybody healthy! He isn’t better than any of the guys that stop him from getting that many (yet)! I don’t want to pick apart those proven guys, just because I want to get more development minutes. No matter how much higher I think his ceiling is, i’m not about to tear down the proven guys! They are all Celtics!!


we want those guys to play as much as they can and up to their potential, but we aren’t Detroit. everybody is not going to play and have a chance to show what they can really do. Pritchard on another team would probably be getting 30 minutes a night easily! We are the league leader in championships for a reason, we don’t have to trust the process, we are the process!

[ConstableGeneva]

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JT with 9 assists and only 1 turnover.

The passing is great for JT.

Not so ridiculous now if you say JT is on Bird's level.

I'm going to need to see some tip passes and a nutmeg pass or two before I entertain this.....

this is going to sound FirstTake-ey, and I own that, but Larry was an ultimate alpha and Tatum isn't there yet. We have the benefit of having seen Larry's full prime, so it's still unfair to compare 26.5-yo JT with him -- but while the stats are getting close, I just can't go there for awhile yet, Fierce. When can I? a) multiple titles and/or b) league MVP and/or c) Finals MVP and/or d) knowing he's going to bend the outcome of games to his will. Larry had all of that. Pierce had 2 at his peak. Give me 3 of those 4 and JT enters the Truly Exalted chat.

[Fierce1]

If Cs win back to back this season then JT would have done something that Bird and Pierce couldn't do.

[Shak_Celts]

BAD NIGHT, so far. Hate to see it, but if this keeps going wrong, might not see me here for a while.

[ConstableGeneva]

BAD NIGHT, so far. Hate to see it, but if this keeps going wrong, might not see me here for a while.

*huge hugs* That goes to everyone else who needs it.