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Re: Bears Eat Our Faces! Loss vs MEM 12/7 

Post#21 » by NYCelticsfan136 » Sun Dec 8, 2024 3:44 am

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NYCelticsfan136 wrote:Another terrible shooting night. I feel like something is missing with this team this season. I said last year they were more balance inside and outside. This year it’s the 3 ball at all cost.


It’s just you bud. The team knows they can rely on their 3 point shooting in the regular season. It’s a smart way to minimise injuries & be fresh for the playoffs.

Don’t look too deep into it.




It’s not all me dude. They‘re on pace to shoot a ridiculous amount of attempts from 3 compared to 2 pointers. Last they finished with more 2 point shots than 3s. This year is the opposite. I am telling you right now they ain’t gonna repeat with that stat. It’s ugly .
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Re: Bears Eat Our Faces! Loss vs MEM 12/7 

Post#22 » by ConstableGeneva » Sun Dec 8, 2024 3:44 am

Our offense has been great. Stop poo-pooing on our offensive philosophy. +8.2 relative offensive rating is one of the best in NBA history lol. Defense has been subpar since opening night. That's where the team's focus should be.
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Re: Bears Eat Our Faces! Loss vs MEM 12/7 

Post#23 » by Larry_Russell » Sun Dec 8, 2024 3:47 am

5 games in 7 nights. Team had no legs.

Really waiting on the schedule to lessen up. Had to have had one of the leagues toughest so far.

Faced mostly good-great teams.
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Re: Bears Eat Our Faces! Loss vs MEM 12/7 

Post#24 » by Fierce1 » Sun Dec 8, 2024 3:48 am

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Bar Fight wrote:I have been thoroughly unimpressed with our defense this season. Just not even close to championship caliber. I guess we're just content with chucking away and hoping to win shootouts.


I feel the same way about our D. Something is just off with this despite the record. I mean you would take 19-5 but they have had a lot of ugly wins as well coming back.

That's a good thing because we all know what they're capable of on defense, if they want to.

I know all of us here are aware of the injuries around the league.

Just today it's Franz Wagner out indefinitely.

So the Celtics not going all in in December is not a bad thing.

Winning shootouts in the regular season will lessen the chance of an injury.

Trying to play hard for a whole season will just increase the chance of an injury happening.

What's important is their record.

If the Cs are still on pace to win more than 60 wins then who cares about how they do it.

The regular season is just the first step to achieving the ultimate goal.
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Re: Bears Eat Our Faces! Loss vs MEM 12/7 

Post#25 » by Fierce1 » Sun Dec 8, 2024 3:51 am

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Sweet Serenity wrote:
NYCelticsfan136 wrote:Another terrible shooting night. I feel like something is missing with this team this season. I said last year they were more balance inside and outside. This year it’s the 3 ball at all cost.


It’s just you bud. The team knows they can rely on their 3 point shooting in the regular season. It’s a smart way to minimise injuries & be fresh for the playoffs.

Don’t look too deep into it.




It’s not all me dude. They‘re on pace to shoot a ridiculous amount of attempts from 3 compared to 2 pointers. Last they finished with more 2 point shots than 3s. This year is the opposite. I am telling you right now they ain’t gonna repeat with that stat. It’s ugly .

A number of posters last year also said the Celtics are not winning a championship because the Jays are mentally weak, not clutch enough, and are not true alphas.

Let's just bookmark that statement of yours and revisit it in June.
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Re: Bears Eat Our Faces! Loss vs MEM 12/7 

Post#26 » by threrf23 » Sun Dec 8, 2024 3:54 am

NYCelticsfan136 wrote:Another terrible shooting night. I feel like something is missing with this team this season. I said last year they were more balance inside and outside. This year it’s the 3 ball at all cost.


Agreed with the caveats that we have less to prove this year, championships are not won in December, and maybe there is value in letting our players get in the habit of putting hesitation to the side.

Also, of games I have caught this season, this was the first one where I really felt like it was the 3 ball at any cost.
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Re: Bears Eat Our Faces! Loss vs MEM 12/7 

Post#27 » by Fierce1 » Sun Dec 8, 2024 3:54 am

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Fierce1 wrote:Just need to forget about this game and move on.

5 games in 7 nights is tough enough, but that emotional win against the Bucks yesterday just sapped the energy out of the Celtic starters.


You like that stat line 18/60 from 3. That’s almost like a whole game fg percentage.

I don't like it, but I know the Celtics are just messing around.

If you really think the Celtics will shoot like that in the playoffs then I have a bridge to sell to you.

Clearly you have not learned anything from this group of Celtics.

Last season the Celtics lost a lot of clutch games in the regular season and Joe wasn't calling timeouts when some think he needed to.

But in the playoffs, Joe called every timeout that he needed to and the Celtics won every clutch game en route to a 16-3 postseason record.
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Re: Bears Eat Our Faces! Loss vs MEM 12/7 

Post#28 » by redslastlaugh » Sun Dec 8, 2024 3:58 am

No team in NBA history since the line was introduced 45 years ago has won a ring shooting this many 3s. It’s right to question if it’s the right approach. A lot of fans feel like we already lost an important series by taking so many bad threes, which was Miami 2023. If we won last year shooting 42 3PTA and tonight we lost shooting 60 (whatever the final count) 3PTA… just you saying we’re gonna win shooting 50 3PTA, I’m saying it’s more likely that that strategy is gonna get us bounced to a lesser team.

I just think it’s pretty reasonable to be concerned when your team is shooting 50-60 threes per game.

Fierce1 wrote:
NYCelticsfan136 wrote:
Sweet Serenity wrote:
It’s just you bud. The team knows they can rely on their 3 point shooting in the regular season. It’s a smart way to minimise injuries & be fresh for the playoffs.

Don’t look too deep into it.




It’s not all me dude. They‘re on pace to shoot a ridiculous amount of attempts from 3 compared to 2 pointers. Last they finished with more 2 point shots than 3s. This year is the opposite. I am telling you right now they ain’t gonna repeat with that stat. It’s ugly .

A number of posters last year also said the Celtics are not winning a championship because the Jays are mentally weak, not clutch enough, and are not true alphas.

Let's just bookmark that statement of yours and revisit it in June.
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Post#29 » by Fierce1 » Sun Dec 8, 2024 4:00 am

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NYCelticsfan136 wrote:Another terrible shooting night. I feel like something is missing with this team this season. I said last year they were more balance inside and outside. This year it’s the 3 ball at all cost.


Agreed with the caveats that we have less to prove this year, championships are not won in December, and maybe there is value in letting our players get in the habit of putting hesitation to the side.

Also, of games I have caught this season, this was the first one where I really felt like it was the 3 ball at any cost.

That's the effect of fatigue.

When you're tired, you always want the easy way out.
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Re: Bears Eat Our Faces! Loss vs MEM 12/7 

Post#30 » by Shak_Celts » Sun Dec 8, 2024 4:02 am

If we let jrue take 700 threes in 4 games in the playoffs then I’d worry because we’d be eliminated. If it ever happens again I’ll be shocked! He doesn’t even shoot that much when he’s on fire.
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Post#31 » by Fierce1 » Sun Dec 8, 2024 4:04 am

redslastlaugh wrote:No team in NBA history since the line was introduced 45 years ago has won a ring shooting this many 3s. It’s right to question if it’s the right approach. A lot of fans feel like we already lost an important series by taking so many bad threes, which was Miami 2023. If we won last year shooting 42 3PTA and tonight we lost shooting 60 (whatever the final count) 3PTA… just you saying we’re gonna win shooting 50 3PTA, I’m saying it’s more likely that that strategy is gonna get us bounced to a lesser team.

I just think it’s pretty reasonable to be concerned when your team is shooting 50-60 threes per game.

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It’s not all me dude. They‘re on pace to shoot a ridiculous amount of attempts from 3 compared to 2 pointers. Last they finished with more 2 point shots than 3s. This year is the opposite. I am telling you right now they ain’t gonna repeat with that stat. It’s ugly .

A number of posters last year also said the Celtics are not winning a championship because the Jays are mentally weak, not clutch enough, and are not true alphas.

Let's just bookmark that statement of yours and revisit it in June.

That's because Joe and the Celtics have you fooled.

If we base it on history and track record, Joe would have done what he did in the regular season in the playoffs and that's not call timeouts.

But Joe called every timeout that he needed to in the playoffs, unlike in the regular season.

The Celtics will not shoot 50-60 3s in the playoffs.

What the Celtics are doing right now is just playing carefree basketball.

There's nothing to prove and regular season games are just that, regular season games.

Don't be fooled by this clever bunch of Celtics.
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Re: Bears Eat Our Faces! Loss vs MEM 12/7 

Post#32 » by NYCelticsfan136 » Sun Dec 8, 2024 4:04 am

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NYCelticsfan136 wrote:
Sweet Serenity wrote:
It’s just you bud. The team knows they can rely on their 3 point shooting in the regular season. It’s a smart way to minimise injuries & be fresh for the playoffs.

Don’t look too deep into it.




It’s not all me dude. They‘re on pace to shoot a ridiculous amount of attempts from 3 compared to 2 pointers. Last they finished with more 2 point shots than 3s. This year is the opposite. I am telling you right now they ain’t gonna repeat with that stat. It’s ugly .

A number of posters last year also said the Celtics are not winning a championship because the Jays are mentally weak, not clutch enough, and are not true alphas.

Let's just bookmark that statement of yours and revisit it in June.


Good. Bookmark it. If they change their philosophy it’s thrown out the window.
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Re: Bears Eat Our Faces! Loss vs MEM 12/7 

Post#33 » by Fierce1 » Sun Dec 8, 2024 4:07 am

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Fierce1 wrote:
NYCelticsfan136 wrote:


It’s not all me dude. They‘re on pace to shoot a ridiculous amount of attempts from 3 compared to 2 pointers. Last they finished with more 2 point shots than 3s. This year is the opposite. I am telling you right now they ain’t gonna repeat with that stat. It’s ugly .

A number of posters last year also said the Celtics are not winning a championship because the Jays are mentally weak, not clutch enough, and are not true alphas.

Let's just bookmark that statement of yours and revisit it in June.


Good. Bookmark it. If they change their philosophy it’s thrown out the window.

The Celtics will not change their philosophy.

It will just go down from 50 to 40 3pt attempts per game.

The game slows down in the playoffs.

That means slower pace and lower scoring.

So that automatically limits the Celtics to around 40 3-pointers as the max.

What you're seeing right now is just the Celtics playing carefree basketball.

When the games matter, a lot will change, including the defense.
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Re: Bears Eat Our Faces! Loss vs MEM 12/7 

Post#34 » by NYCelticsfan136 » Sun Dec 8, 2024 4:13 am

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NYCelticsfan136 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:A number of posters last year also said the Celtics are not winning a championship because the Jays are mentally weak, not clutch enough, and are not true alphas.

Let's just bookmark that statement of yours and revisit it in June.


Good. Bookmark it. If they change their philosophy it’s thrown out the window.

The Celtics will not change their philosophy.

It will just go down from 50 to 40 3pt attempts per game.

The game slows down in the playoffs.

That means slower pace and lower scoring.

So that automatically limits the Celtics to around 40 3-pointers as the max.

What you're seeing right now is just the Celtics playing carefree basketball.

When the games matter, a lot will change, including the defense.



We shall see man. Again they’re not taking enough 2 point shots this year. Not even the golden state warriors in their 3 titles shot this many 3s beyond the arc. We shall see.
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Re: Bears Eat Our Faces! Loss vs MEM 12/7 

Post#35 » by ConstableGeneva » Sun Dec 8, 2024 4:23 am

57.1% 3-pt attempt rate isn't even in our top 10 highest this season.

Some fans were already complaining last season that we shoot too many threes. Saying we won't win doing that. Heck, fans were complaining about "too many threes" even when Stevens was coaching when we were maybe shooting 30 threes per game. AND YET, we already won a title last year with the highest 3-pt attempt rate last season (and top 10 3-pt attempt rate in NBA history).

Focus on defense. Cs allowed Memphis (who's top 5 in offense) a 117.6 offensive rating. That's Lakers-level defense.

Allowed 22 fastbreak points, 8 more than our average. Allowed 19 pts off TOs, 5 more than usual.

EDIT: C's had a dismal 126.9 defensive rating in the 4th. Not enough stops, sadly.
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Re: Bears Eat Our Faces! Loss vs MEM 12/7 

Post#36 » by Fierce1 » Sun Dec 8, 2024 4:32 am

I think we'll know more about the defense when KP plays 20-30 games.

This is only KP's 5th game this season.

The defense is just different when KP is playing.
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Re: Bears Eat Our Faces! Loss vs MEM 12/7 

Post#37 » by Ben-N1ce » Sun Dec 8, 2024 4:36 am

They lost but they got up 60 3's so that's good.
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Post#38 » by ConstableGeneva » Sun Dec 8, 2024 4:37 am

Ben-N1ce wrote:They lost but they got up 60 3's so that's good.

Should've taken 20 more.
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Re: Bears Eat Our Faces! Loss vs MEM 12/7 

Post#39 » by TheMartian » Sun Dec 8, 2024 4:38 am

Still not convinced that the live by the 3 die by the 3 philosophy is a sustainable tactic. No one on the team is a real knock down shooter except maybe PP. Come up with a better plan, Joe.
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Post#40 » by ConstableGeneva » Sun Dec 8, 2024 4:41 am

Now that the dust has settled... how about that Ja Morant dunk? That's usually reserved for all-star festivities.
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