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No Holiday Magic For Us! Loss vs ORL 12/23

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Re: No Holiday Magic For Us! Loss vs ORL 12/23 

Post#21 » by cl2117 » Tue Dec 24, 2024 2:56 am

I was impressed by the Magic's physicality and toughness down their two best players. Refs were letting everyone play for the most part and they really took advantage of that. Suggs is a guy I've always loved because he brings that Marcus Smart energy and Carter Jr. is a guy I always wanted to try to get out hands on as an heir to Horford, but they had more than a few guys pop. Happy for Queen to have had a big game as a two-way guy.

On our side it is what it is, probably a bit of a trap game. We didn't shoot well from 3, we weren't manufacturing good offensive possessions when things slow down for us, we didn't match their physicality when they fought back in the third.

Having Hauser play 16 minutes and not get a shot up is malpractice. I appreciate he might be off because of his back but then I'd rather him not play. If he's out there you've got to try and create some opportunities for him.

Disappointing to see us falter when the level of physicality gets stepped up. That's playoff style basketball and Joe's gonna have to figure out better ways to create offense when things stagnate.
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Re: No Holiday Magic For Us! Loss vs ORL 12/23 

Post#22 » by Fierce1 » Tue Dec 24, 2024 2:57 am

Bar Fight wrote:I have no faith in these guys to get stops when they need them in crunch time. They couldn't get stops in crunch time against Tristan da Silva and Trevelin Queen lmfao

So your basis is the regular season and not the playoffs and finals?

How about Games 3 and 4 against Indy in the ECF?

Or Games 2 and 3 of the Finals?

Celtics lost games like this in the regular season last season.

But something like this never happened in the playoffs and finals.
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Re: No Holiday Magic For Us! Loss vs ORL 12/23 

Post#23 » by NYCelticsfan136 » Tue Dec 24, 2024 2:57 am

Bar Fight wrote:I have no faith in these guys to get stops when they need them in crunch time. They couldn't get stops in crunch time against Tristan da Silva and Trevelin Queen lmfao


Lol embarrassing. Well last year they were 23-6 at this point of the season. What you wanna see is consistent good basketball and not laziness from this team. Porzingis stunk up the joint. He needed to play better.
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Re: No Holiday Magic For Us! Loss vs ORL 12/23 

Post#24 » by NYCelticsfan136 » Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:03 am

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Bar Fight wrote:I have no faith in these guys to get stops when they need them in crunch time. They couldn't get stops in crunch time against Tristan da Silva and Trevelin Queen lmfao

So your basis is the regular season and not the playoffs and finals?

How about Games 3 and 4 against Indy in the ECF?

Or Games 2 and 3 of the Finals?

Celtics lost games like this in the regular season last season.

But something like this never happened in the playoffs and finals.



Dude again what you’re saying is that they can turn it off or on anytime they want. Again that approach doesn’t work off one championship. Many people think we got an easy road last year with the matchups. You still see the lazy ball with this team. That hasn’t changed at all. They should dominated this game even without Tatum.
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Re: No Holiday Magic For Us! Loss vs ORL 12/23 

Post#25 » by Bar Fight » Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:03 am

Fierce1 wrote:
Bar Fight wrote:I have no faith in these guys to get stops when they need them in crunch time. They couldn't get stops in crunch time against Tristan da Silva and Trevelin Queen lmfao

So your basis is the regular season and not the playoffs and finals?

How about Games 3 and 4 against Indy in the ECF?

Or Games 2 and 3 of the Finals?

Celtics lost games like this in the regular season last season.

But something like this never happened in the playoffs and finals.

Defense has been questionable all year
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Re: No Holiday Magic For Us! Loss vs ORL 12/23 

Post#26 » by Fierce1 » Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:07 am

NYCelticsfan136 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
Bar Fight wrote:I have no faith in these guys to get stops when they need them in crunch time. They couldn't get stops in crunch time against Tristan da Silva and Trevelin Queen lmfao

So your basis is the regular season and not the playoffs and finals?

How about Games 3 and 4 against Indy in the ECF?

Or Games 2 and 3 of the Finals?

Celtics lost games like this in the regular season last season.

But something like this never happened in the playoffs and finals.



Dude again what you’re saying is that they can turn it off or on anytime they want. Again that approach doesn’t work off one championship. Many people think we got an easy road last year with the matchups. You still see the lazy ball with this team. That hasn’t changed at all. They should dominated this game even without Tatum.

Guess you haven't learned from last season.

Those who doubted the Celtics from the start of the season until early April ended up in the crow party in June.

Unlike last season where Al was the only one under player management, this season the Celtics are screwing up the lineup by letting players miss games.

I don't think the whole starting 5 plus Al has more played 5 games together.

This is the Celtics playing possum because it's all about the bigger picture.
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Re: No Holiday Magic For Us! Loss vs ORL 12/23 

Post#27 » by meatball sub » Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:08 am

only shot 32 threes. clearly that's not enough given our style of play
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Re: No Holiday Magic For Us! Loss vs ORL 12/23 

Post#28 » by neno » Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:09 am

Another game we're difference between winning came down to 1 player
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Post#29 » by neno » Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:10 am

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Re: No Holiday Magic For Us! Loss vs ORL 12/23 

Post#30 » by Fierce1 » Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:10 am

Bar Fight wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
Bar Fight wrote:I have no faith in these guys to get stops when they need them in crunch time. They couldn't get stops in crunch time against Tristan da Silva and Trevelin Queen lmfao

So your basis is the regular season and not the playoffs and finals?

How about Games 3 and 4 against Indy in the ECF?

Or Games 2 and 3 of the Finals?

Celtics lost games like this in the regular season last season.

But something like this never happened in the playoffs and finals.

Defense has been questionable all year

And I don't disagree with you.

But I think this is a case of the Celtics not giving their 100% every game because they have nothing to prove in the regular season.

JB already said complacency will be a problem this season.

So why are you surprised when even one of the best players on the team said to expect something like this?
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Re: No Holiday Magic For Us! Loss vs ORL 12/23 

Post#31 » by Fierce1 » Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:13 am

If the Celtics are going to continue to be cautious with the players then there will be more losses like this.

The rhythm gets disrupted when players are in and out of the lineup.
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Post#32 » by Bar Fight » Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:13 am

Fierce1 wrote:
Bar Fight wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:So your basis is the regular season and not the playoffs and finals?

How about Games 3 and 4 against Indy in the ECF?

Or Games 2 and 3 of the Finals?

Celtics lost games like this in the regular season last season.

But something like this never happened in the playoffs and finals.

Defense has been questionable all year

And I don't disagree with you.

But I think this is a case of the Celtics not giving their 100% every game because they have nothing to prove in the regular season.

JB already said complacency will be a problem this season.

So why are you surprised when even one of the best players on the team said to expect something like this?

"They're not trying" has never, and will never be an acceptable excuse for a professional sports team.
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Re: No Holiday Magic For Us! Loss vs ORL 12/23 

Post#33 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:14 am

Bar Fight wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
Bar Fight wrote:I have no faith in these guys to get stops when they need them in crunch time. They couldn't get stops in crunch time against Tristan da Silva and Trevelin Queen lmfao

So your basis is the regular season and not the playoffs and finals?

How about Games 3 and 4 against Indy in the ECF?

Or Games 2 and 3 of the Finals?

Celtics lost games like this in the regular season last season.

But something like this never happened in the playoffs and finals.

Defense has been questionable all year

Celtics use to play defense like the Magic. I'm hoping that it's a long year and the Celtics will pick it up the last 3rd of the season and into the playoffs. No guarantee.
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Re: No Holiday Magic For Us! Loss vs ORL 12/23 

Post#34 » by cl2117 » Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:17 am

It felt like it was becoming a bit of a knife fight in the third, I thought Springer might actually fit into that well. We weren't taking advantage of having more floor stretchers out there anyway, at least Springer would have matched the Magic's defensive energy. They were dragging us down into the mud and I think sometimes you need to fight fire with fire.
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Re: No Holiday Magic For Us! Loss vs ORL 12/23 

Post#35 » by Fierce1 » Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:17 am

Bar Fight wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
Bar Fight wrote:Defense has been questionable all year

And I don't disagree with you.

But I think this is a case of the Celtics not giving their 100% every game because they have nothing to prove in the regular season.

JB already said complacency will be a problem this season.

So why are you surprised when even one of the best players on the team said to expect something like this?

"They're not trying" has never, and will never be an acceptable excuse for a professional sports team.

True.

But in this era of pro sports, injuries are really happening more often.

We've seen this before in 2009.

Celtics were trying to repeat and were 27-3 by Christmas of 2008.

We all know the season ended badly because KG was out for the whole playoffs that season.

I think right now what's more important is just to survive the regular season and be healthy when the playoffs start.
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Post#36 » by Tyakack » Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:18 am

Any game without Tatum is pretty much irrelevant as far as observing the team.
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Post#37 » by Fierce1 » Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:21 am

Tyakack wrote:Any game without Tatum is pretty much irrelevant as far as observing the team.

Scal said they already had 9 assists after 2 qtrs then ended up with just 13 total assists.

JT was clearly missed in this game.

The offense just runs smoother with JT in the game.
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Post#38 » by Fierce1 » Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:24 am

Bucks with no Dame and no Giannis beat the Bulls by 21.

And this is the same Bulls team that beat the Celtics a few days ago.
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Post#39 » by Bar Fight » Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:25 am

Fierce1 wrote:
Bar Fight wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:And I don't disagree with you.

But I think this is a case of the Celtics not giving their 100% every game because they have nothing to prove in the regular season.

JB already said complacency will be a problem this season.

So why are you surprised when even one of the best players on the team said to expect something like this?

"They're not trying" has never, and will never be an acceptable excuse for a professional sports team.

True.

But in this era of pro sports, injuries are really happening more often.

We've seen this before in 2009.

Celtics were trying to repeat and were 27-3 by Christmas of 2008.

We all know the season ended badly because KG was out for the whole playoffs that season.

I think right now what's more important is just to survive the regular season and be healthy when the playoffs start.

I'm not taking for granted that they're gonna flip the switch until I see more flashes of our elite defense from last year. Teams who get complacent after winning one title often don't repeat.
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Re: No Holiday Magic For Us! Loss vs ORL 12/23 

Post#40 » by Fierce1 » Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:27 am

Bar Fight wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
Bar Fight wrote:"They're not trying" has never, and will never be an acceptable excuse for a professional sports team.

True.

But in this era of pro sports, injuries are really happening more often.

We've seen this before in 2009.

Celtics were trying to repeat and were 27-3 by Christmas of 2008.

We all know the season ended badly because KG was out for the whole playoffs that season.

I think right now what's more important is just to survive the regular season and be healthy when the playoffs start.

I'm not taking for granted that they're gonna flip the switch until I see more flashes of our elite defense from last year. Teams who get complacent after winning one title often don't repeat.

Bird, Parish, and McHale couldn't repeat in 1987.

KG, Pierce, and Ray couldn't do it in 2009.

So the question is, what makes you think this bunch of Celtics can do it?

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