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Re: Dalllas Mavericks sent a messags to rest of the superstars 

Post#21 » by ThePigeon » Tue Feb 11, 2025 8:31 pm

I just read an article that DAL tried to get Giannis or Ant but got rejected before agreeing for AD
I call this bull. They need to cover Silver and save Nico so they invent crap
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Post#22 » by djFan71 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:49 pm

ThePigeon wrote:I just read an article that DAL tried to get Giannis or Ant but got rejected before agreeing for AD
I call this bull. They need to cover Silver and save Nico so they invent crap

knowing Nico he was probably only trying for Gobert. :lol:
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Post#23 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:54 pm

Dallas Mavericks bigs: Davis, Lively, Gafford, Powell, Washington -- all injured
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Post#24 » by return2glory » Wed Feb 12, 2025 12:23 am

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Playoffs are not only Finals. Kyrie looked good in the Finals? How is still with the Mavs?

We're not talking about analysis, but about facts.

25 years old player averaged 34/9/10 in RS, won scoring title and was 3rd in MVP, brought underdogs in the Finals, where they lost against extremely good team, playing the most total minutes in RS and playoffs combined with the highest usage. That kind of player is traded 7 months later without knowing anything in the middle of the night, because he supposedly doesn't care enough about conditioning? And the best part, he was trade for 6 years older injury prone player, who might have already finished this season after playing 3Qs for Mavs. :lol:

Why are you cackling??? I could care less about these posts and these prepubescent rants


People believing that 25 years old, top 3 player in Nba, global superstar, is being traded because he didn't care about conditioning is just laughable. Mavs imploded in 1 week, because of Nico's decision on every level possible.

You don't need to care, I would expect a little bit of common sense though. Too much?


I agree. Luka being out of shape is such BS. He lead a lottery team into the NBA Finals. Mavs signing Kyrie was a red flag and most people didn't understand. Kyrie was my least Celtic player of all time in his short time in Boston.

Luka is a top 3 talent. I don't know the real reason why Dallas traded him. It had nothing to do with his conditioning.
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Post#25 » by Fierce1 » Wed Feb 12, 2025 12:35 am

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165bows wrote:Why are you cackling??? I could care less about these posts and these prepubescent rants


People believing that 25 years old, top 3 player in Nba, global superstar, is being traded because he didn't care about conditioning is just laughable. Mavs imploded in 1 week, because of Nico's decision on every level possible.

You don't need to care, I would expect a little bit of common sense though. Too much?


I agree. Luka being out of shape is such BS. He lead a lottery team into the NBA Finals. Mavs signing Kyrie was a red flag and most people didn't understand. Kyrie was my least Celtic player of all time in his short time in Boston.

Luka is a top 3 talent. I don't know the real reason why Dallas traded him. It had nothing to do with his conditioning.

The conditioning is the excuse so that the new owner won't have to pay Luka 70m per year.

It's all about the money.
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Post#26 » by ScottieJ » Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:39 am

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People believing that 25 years old, top 3 player in Nba, global superstar, is being traded because he didn't care about conditioning is just laughable. Mavs imploded in 1 week, because of Nico's decision on every level possible.

You don't need to care, I would expect a little bit of common sense though. Too much?


I agree. Luka being out of shape is such BS. He lead a lottery team into the NBA Finals. Mavs signing Kyrie was a red flag and most people didn't understand. Kyrie was my least Celtic player of all time in his short time in Boston.

Luka is a top 3 talent. I don't know the real reason why Dallas traded him. It had nothing to do with his conditioning.

The conditioning is the excuse so that the new owner won't have to pay Luka 70m per year.

It's all about the money.


I can't quite get my head around that. Even with his questionable conditioning he's still one of the best five players in the NBA. Who are they saving their money for that they think would be better? They could argue that he misses games because he's not in as good a shape as he could be but given what alternatives they have to use the money it's difficult to think of where it could be spent better. Not that I think that missing games for their top player is a concern given that they went out and traded for a guy who'll miss time with injury regularly.

Conditioning or not, Luka is a generational talent. There's got to be something else behind the scenes that is yet to come to light, nothing I've read about this so far seems believable. My best guess is that the relationship between them, likely due to Dallas expressing concerns about his conditioning/lifestyle, has become untenable. But even still, it is extreme mismanagement, not to mention a massive slap in the face to the fans, to sell on him as low as they did.
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Post#27 » by Fierce1 » Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:56 am

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I agree. Luka being out of shape is such BS. He lead a lottery team into the NBA Finals. Mavs signing Kyrie was a red flag and most people didn't understand. Kyrie was my least Celtic player of all time in his short time in Boston.

Luka is a top 3 talent. I don't know the real reason why Dallas traded him. It had nothing to do with his conditioning.

The conditioning is the excuse so that the new owner won't have to pay Luka 70m per year.

It's all about the money.


I can't quite get my head around that. Even with his questionable conditioning he's still one of the best five players in the NBA. Who are they saving their money for that they think would be better? They could argue that he misses games because he's not in as good a shape as he could be but given what alternatives they have to use the money it's difficult to think of where it could be spent better. Not that I think that missing games for their top player is a concern given that they went out and traded for a guy who'll miss time with injury regularly.

Conditioning or not, Luka is a generational talent. There's got to be something else behind the scenes that is yet to come to light, nothing I've read about this so far seems believable. My best guess is that the relationship between them, likely due to Dallas expressing concerns about his conditioning/lifestyle, has become untenable. But even still, it is extreme mismanagement, not to mention a massive slap in the face to the fans, to see on him as low as they did.

Agree with your assessment on Luka and the situation.

But we've been through this before.

I remember the former owner of the Celtics, the Gastons, really didn't do much to put the Celtics back on the winning track after Bird retired in 92.

Some owners care more about the business side than winning championships.

Right now I'm leaning towards Luka is not a good investment because of what you said, the relationship has become untenable.

Some owners don't care about the money as long as they win the championship.

The Lakers are a perfect example of that.
That's why the NBA had to make stricter cap rules.

No way the Lakers would have beaten the Celtics in 2010 if the Lakers didn't have Lamar Odom.
For context, after the Lakers won the chip in 2009, Odom was a FA and wanted big money.
It took a while, but the Lakers gave in and overpaid for Odom.
Lakers ended up winning back to back.
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Post#28 » by Fierce1 » Wed Feb 12, 2025 3:05 am

It's just unfortunate that AD got hurt in his first game as a Mav.

But if the Mavs made public that they're trading Luka, it would be like the Jimmy Butler situation.

Luka would sabotage any deal because he will want that 350m supermax.

No way any player walks away from 350m.
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Post#29 » by ThePigeon » Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:25 am

Fierce1 wrote:
return2glory wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
People believing that 25 years old, top 3 player in Nba, global superstar, is being traded because he didn't care about conditioning is just laughable. Mavs imploded in 1 week, because of Nico's decision on every level possible.

You don't need to care, I would expect a little bit of common sense though. Too much?


I agree. Luka being out of shape is such BS. He lead a lottery team into the NBA Finals. Mavs signing Kyrie was a red flag and most people didn't understand. Kyrie was my least Celtic player of all time in his short time in Boston.

Luka is a top 3 talent. I don't know the real reason why Dallas traded him. It had nothing to do with his conditioning.

The conditioning is the excuse so that the new owner won't have to pay Luka 70m per year.

It's all about the money.


I disagree
It is deeper than the 70m (which is peanuts for Edelson - and Luka brings money in)

I think it is the Vegas NBA team. Edelson, Stern and LaQuin working together to disassemble DAL and to move to Vegas
Luka will sign a short contract in LA and watch for the Vegas team - that will miraculously will have the ability to offer max contracts to players in the first year they operate

Edelson is rooted there. LaQuin is saying that the next step for him is to own a team, preferably in Vegas. Do the math

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Post#30 » by KamikazeK » Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:56 am

damn the haters be crazy even after that Finals MVP run from last year. And ECF MVP. Crazy.
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Post#31 » by Fierce1 » Wed Feb 12, 2025 7:19 am

ThePigeon wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
return2glory wrote:
I agree. Luka being out of shape is such BS. He lead a lottery team into the NBA Finals. Mavs signing Kyrie was a red flag and most people didn't understand. Kyrie was my least Celtic player of all time in his short time in Boston.

Luka is a top 3 talent. I don't know the real reason why Dallas traded him. It had nothing to do with his conditioning.

The conditioning is the excuse so that the new owner won't have to pay Luka 70m per year.

It's all about the money.


I disagree
It is deeper than the 70m (which is peanuts for Edelson - and Luka brings money in)

I think it is the Vegas NBA team. Edelson, Stern and LaQuin working together to disassemble DAL and to move to Vegas
Luka will sign a short contract in LA and watch for the Vegas team - that will miraculously will have the ability to offer max contracts to players in the first year they operate

Edelson is rooted there. LaQuin is saying that the next step for him is to own a team, preferably in Vegas. Do the math

WWE without the harassment and less drama

Guess we'll have to wait and see.

2028?
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Post#32 » by ThePigeon » Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:01 am

Fierce1 wrote:
ThePigeon wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:The conditioning is the excuse so that the new owner won't have to pay Luka 70m per year.

It's all about the money.


I disagree
It is deeper than the 70m (which is peanuts for Edelson - and Luka brings money in)

I think it is the Vegas NBA team. Edelson, Stern and LaQuin working together to disassemble DAL and to move to Vegas
Luka will sign a short contract in LA and watch for the Vegas team - that will miraculously will have the ability to offer max contracts to players in the first year they operate

Edelson is rooted there. LaQuin is saying that the next step for him is to own a team, preferably in Vegas. Do the math

WWE without the harassment and less drama

Guess we'll have to wait and see.

2028?


Sure
We can agree that the Luka trade is suspicious. The reasons behind it will be revealed in the future (at least a couple of years from today).
No way it is the conditioning and no way this is the best haul that DAL could have gotten for him
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Post#33 » by Fierce1 » Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:11 am

ThePigeon wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
ThePigeon wrote:
I disagree
It is deeper than the 70m (which is peanuts for Edelson - and Luka brings money in)

I think it is the Vegas NBA team. Edelson, Stern and LaQuin working together to disassemble DAL and to move to Vegas
Luka will sign a short contract in LA and watch for the Vegas team - that will miraculously will have the ability to offer max contracts to players in the first year they operate

Edelson is rooted there. LaQuin is saying that the next step for him is to own a team, preferably in Vegas. Do the math

WWE without the harassment and less drama

Guess we'll have to wait and see.

2028?


Sure
We can agree that the Luka trade is suspicious. The reasons behind it will be revealed in the future (at least a couple of years from today).
No way it is the conditioning and no way this is the best haul that DAL could have gotten for him

Yeah, I have no doubt it's suspicious.

I'm just not sure what really happened.

But the 350m definitely played a role in that transaction.

If the Mavs got multiple 1st rnd picks then it would have been more palatable.
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Post#34 » by 31to6 » Wed Feb 12, 2025 3:39 pm

I want a messag
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Post#35 » by djFan71 » Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:56 pm

31to6 wrote:I want a messag

They're only for superstars.
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Post#36 » by Shak_Celts » Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:12 am

ConstableGeneva wrote:Dallas Mavericks bigs: Davis, Lively, Gafford, Powell, Washington -- all injured
Boston Celtics bigs: Porzingis, Horford, Kornet, Queta, Tillman -- all stars

I was reading and just minding my own business, but this has gone far enough!!! Tillman is in line to be GOAT big man!! I will not sit for your disrespect!! Kornet is playing for 2nd best of all time! Thank you!! All Stars? Pfft!


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Dallas is shady and yes Luka isn’t the best conditioned. Both can be true. Look at Wemby and what he does, KG said he’s not in good shape or top shape or whatever (I didn’t agree w KG but what do I know?). Dallas didn’t get rid of him because of that, that’s not serious, they had other shady reasons. Doesn’t make it false that he doesn’t take care of himself.
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Post#37 » by ryan in Maine » Fri Feb 14, 2025 4:00 pm

I assume we all know someone who has played a few games of beersketball or shoot for shots. Or we are that someone.
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