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zoyathedestroya wrote:If season started today, who are you starting? (Regardless of what you’ve heard or what’s been reported.)
Mine would be…
White | JB | Hauser | ?? | Queta
?? - maybe we can get prime KG, Dirk, or Tim Duncan for that spot
brackdan70 wrote:zoyathedestroya wrote:If season started today, who are you starting? (Regardless of what you’ve heard or what’s been reported.)
Mine would be…
White | JB | Hauser | ?? | Queta
?? - maybe we can get prime KG, Dirk, or Tim Duncan for that spot
Pritchard, White, JB, Boucher, Queta start.
Simons, Hauser, Walsh, Minott, Garza get significant PT
BS and Gonzales can earn some PT
Tillman…Idk, maybe he is a player
Shak_Celts wrote:I’d take Minott starting over Pritchard and that doesn’t take ability into account, unless we’re talking the PERFECT 6th MAN!! No one wants to be a Manu, even though the team needs it! I understand Pritch wanting to start, but whhyyy does it have to be so?!
For the last time, Pritch is under contract, it’s harder to find a 6th man, as good as he is, than to find a capable starting point guard! Then, I also have my playoff doubts, but that’s much further down the line.
Y’all don’t want Simons starting, won’t argue it, it’s not about him for me. It could be Shulga! Anybody more expendable than Pritch!
I said “last time” before, IIRC, but this keeps coming up so I’m probably going to answer each time, so I’m basically lying.
brackdan70 wrote:zoyathedestroya wrote:If season started today, who are you starting? (Regardless of what you’ve heard or what’s been reported.)
Mine would be…
White | JB | Hauser | ?? | Queta
?? - maybe we can get prime KG, Dirk, or Tim Duncan for that spot
Pritchard, White, JB, Boucher, Queta start.
Simons, Hauser, Walsh, Minott, Garza get significant PT
BS and Gonzales can earn some PT
Tillman…Idk, maybe he is a player
darrendaye wrote:brackdan70 wrote:zoyathedestroya wrote:If season started today, who are you starting? (Regardless of what you’ve heard or what’s been reported.)
Mine would be…
White | JB | Hauser | ?? | Queta
?? - maybe we can get prime KG, Dirk, or Tim Duncan for that spot
Pritchard, White, JB, Boucher, Queta start.
Simons, Hauser, Walsh, Minott, Garza get significant PT
BS and Gonzales can earn some PT
Tillman…Idk, maybe he is a player
I'm 90% there, I have Scheierman over Walsh in the rotation. I'd love to give Minott a shot to start but Boucher is a more established scorer and Queta is still likely to be a 5th option. Pairing Minott with Garza, who I think will be a 3rd option at least at times, to me is a better fit. Scheierman as a secondary ball-handler, is a valued utility without Tatum and if they are committed to playing at a faster pace. Rough time allocation projection:
PG: Pritchard (32), White (16)
SG: White (16), Simons (32)
SF: Brown (14), Hauser (24), Scheierman (10)
PF: Boucher (12), Brown (20), Minott (16)
C: Queta (20), Garza (16), Boucher (12)
To me, more a question is the closing lineup.
Shak_Celts wrote:I’d take Minott starting over Pritchard and that doesn’t take ability into account, unless we’re talking the PERFECT 6th MAN!! No one wants to be a Manu, even though the team needs it! I understand Pritch wanting to start, but whhyyy does it have to be so?!
For the last time, Pritch is under contract, it’s harder to find a 6th man, as good as he is, than to find a capable starting point guard! Then, I also have my playoff doubts, but that’s much further down the line.
Y’all don’t want Simons starting, won’t argue it, it’s not about him for me. It could be Shulga! Anybody more expendable than Pritch!
I said “last time” before, IIRC, but this keeps coming up so I’m probably going to answer each time, so I’m basically lying.
brackdan70 wrote:darrendaye wrote:brackdan70 wrote:Pritchard, White, JB, Boucher, Queta start.
Simons, Hauser, Walsh, Minott, Garza get significant PT
BS and Gonzales can earn some PT
Tillman…Idk, maybe he is a player
I'm 90% there, I have Scheierman over Walsh in the rotation. I'd love to give Minott a shot to start but Boucher is a more established scorer and Queta is still likely to be a 5th option. Pairing Minott with Garza, who I think will be a 3rd option at least at times, to me is a better fit. Scheierman as a secondary ball-handler, is a valued utility without Tatum and if they are committed to playing at a faster pace. Rough time allocation projection:
PG: Pritchard (32), White (16)
SG: White (16), Simons (32)
SF: Brown (14), Hauser (24), Scheierman (10)
PF: Boucher (12), Brown (20), Minott (16)
C: Queta (20), Garza (16), Boucher (12)
To me, more a question is the closing lineup.
Pretty good minutes breakdown.
Assuming each player plays in 72 games ( which maybe is getting in the weeds a bit) there are 25 minutes left for Walsh and Hugo.
It seems like we are all ( or many of us) over looking Tillman, and for good reason. But what if he can 2023 Tillman?
darrendaye wrote:brackdan70 wrote:darrendaye wrote:
I'm 90% there, I have Scheierman over Walsh in the rotation. I'd love to give Minott a shot to start but Boucher is a more established scorer and Queta is still likely to be a 5th option. Pairing Minott with Garza, who I think will be a 3rd option at least at times, to me is a better fit. Scheierman as a secondary ball-handler, is a valued utility without Tatum and if they are committed to playing at a faster pace. Rough time allocation projection:
PG: Pritchard (32), White (16)
SG: White (16), Simons (32)
SF: Brown (14), Hauser (24), Scheierman (10)
PF: Boucher (12), Brown (20), Minott (16)
C: Queta (20), Garza (16), Boucher (12)
To me, more a question is the closing lineup.
Pretty good minutes breakdown.
Assuming each player plays in 72 games ( which maybe is getting in the weeds a bit) there are 25 minutes left for Walsh and Hugo.
It seems like we are all ( or many of us) over looking Tillman, and for good reason. But what if he can 2023 Tillman?
In the prior thread I addressed Tillman. Having Boucher instead of Niang opens a role for Tillman. Backup PF is an audition between Minott, Walsh (imo), and Tillman. Tillman can play the "Kornet role" alongside Boucher where it was a tougher vision to see prior to Boucher's arrival.
Fierce1 wrote:I agree that PP is best suited as the 6th man.
Half-Full wrote:Fierce1 wrote:I agree that PP is best suited as the 6th man.
Maybe, but he deserves a chance to be a starter. Perhaps that is his best role. Won't know unless he's given the opportunity.
Gant wrote:darrendaye wrote:brackdan70 wrote:Pretty good minutes breakdown.
Assuming each player plays in 72 games ( which maybe is getting in the weeds a bit) there are 25 minutes left for Walsh and Hugo.
It seems like we are all ( or many of us) over looking Tillman, and for good reason. But what if he can 2023 Tillman?
In the prior thread I addressed Tillman. Having Boucher instead of Niang opens a role for Tillman. Backup PF is an audition between Minott, Walsh (imo), and Tillman. Tillman can play the "Kornet role" alongside Boucher where it was a tougher vision to see prior to Boucher's arrival.
It would be a pleasant surprise if Tillman could contribute.
Also possible, they're waiting for aggregation day and will move Simons and Tillman out together after September 7th.
Fierce1 wrote:Gant wrote:darrendaye wrote:
In the prior thread I addressed Tillman. Having Boucher instead of Niang opens a role for Tillman. Backup PF is an audition between Minott, Walsh (imo), and Tillman. Tillman can play the "Kornet role" alongside Boucher where it was a tougher vision to see prior to Boucher's arrival.
It would be a pleasant surprise if Tillman could contribute.
Also possible, they're waiting for aggregation day and will move Simons and Tillman out together after September 7th.
Does not make sense to aggregate Simons because that will only mean the Cs will be sending a bigger amount of money and could result in the Cs taking more money in return.
If it's just about money then just trade Simons for 2 smaller contracts.
Fierce1 wrote:Gant wrote:darrendaye wrote:
In the prior thread I addressed Tillman. Having Boucher instead of Niang opens a role for Tillman. Backup PF is an audition between Minott, Walsh (imo), and Tillman. Tillman can play the "Kornet role" alongside Boucher where it was a tougher vision to see prior to Boucher's arrival.
It would be a pleasant surprise if Tillman could contribute.
Also possible, they're waiting for aggregation day and will move Simons and Tillman out together after September 7th.
Does not make sense to aggregate Simons because that will only mean the Cs will be sending a bigger amount of money and could result in the Cs taking more money in return.
If it's just about money then just trade Simons for 2 smaller contracts.
darrendaye wrote:Fierce1 wrote:Gant wrote:
It would be a pleasant surprise if Tillman could contribute.
Also possible, they're waiting for aggregation day and will move Simons and Tillman out together after September 7th.
Does not make sense to aggregate Simons because that will only mean the Cs will be sending a bigger amount of money and could result in the Cs taking more money in return.
If it's just about money then just trade Simons for 2 smaller contracts.
Not that it is super-worthwhile of ongoing discussion, but technically aggregating allows them to take back LESS money since you can take back a smaller contract than Tillman since the total amount going out is higher. Tillman's salary is also small enough that most teams have an exception they can use to take that salary without sending any back. They'd get a larger TPE in the trade too.
Gant wrote:darrendaye wrote:Fierce1 wrote:Does not make sense to aggregate Simons because that will only mean the Cs will be sending a bigger amount of money and could result in the Cs taking more money in return.
If it's just about money then just trade Simons for 2 smaller contracts.
Not that it is super-worthwhile of ongoing discussion, but technically aggregating allows them to take back LESS money since you can take back a smaller contract than Tillman since the total amount going out is higher. Tillman's salary is also small enough that most teams have an exception they can use to take that salary without sending any back. They'd get a larger TPE in the trade too.
Yeah, they could do a two for two swap and get two smaller contracts, and possibly even reroute one to a third team. Then if they wanted, replace Tillman with Bassey, who is still in the picture.
darrendaye wrote:Shak_Celts wrote:I’d take Minott starting over Pritchard and that doesn’t take ability into account, unless we’re talking the PERFECT 6th MAN!! No one wants to be a Manu, even though the team needs it! I understand Pritch wanting to start, but whhyyy does it have to be so?!
For the last time, Pritch is under contract, it’s harder to find a 6th man, as good as he is, than to find a capable starting point guard! Then, I also have my playoff doubts, but that’s much further down the line.
Y’all don’t want Simons starting, won’t argue it, it’s not about him for me. It could be Shulga! Anybody more expendable than Pritch!
I said “last time” before, IIRC, but this keeps coming up so I’m probably going to answer each time, so I’m basically lying.
I'll address your concern with a question. Do you think Brown is going to expect to keep his 2025-26 role in 26-27?
Shak_Celts wrote:darrendaye wrote:Shak_Celts wrote:I’d take Minott starting over Pritchard and that doesn’t take ability into account, unless we’re talking the PERFECT 6th MAN!! No one wants to be a Manu, even though the team needs it! I understand Pritch wanting to start, but whhyyy does it have to be so?!
For the last time, Pritch is under contract, it’s harder to find a 6th man, as good as he is, than to find a capable starting point guard! Then, I also have my playoff doubts, but that’s much further down the line.
Y’all don’t want Simons starting, won’t argue it, it’s not about him for me. It could be Shulga! Anybody more expendable than Pritch!
I said “last time” before, IIRC, but this keeps coming up so I’m probably going to answer each time, so I’m basically lying.
I'll address your concern with a question. Do you think Brown is going to expect to keep his 2025-26 role in 26-27?
No. He’s stepped back plenty of times, with no credit. However, even if he wants it, they’ll move him before there’s a problem.