Celts Lack Pizzazz, Can't Steal One From Jazz! Loss vs UTA 11/3

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

Yeah, missing 40 three is never gonna get the job done. Between the misses and the fact that the Celtics have terrible bigs this is the result.

[Riverwalk2021]

Team is short on talent, poorly coached and boring to watch.

Biggest takeaway so far: Mazzulla showing his limitations as an X’s and O’s Coach when he doesn’t have the overwhelming talent advantage.

[bisme37]

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[Fierce1]

It's just the horrible shooting.

Two issues need to be resolved before we will know what this season really is.

1. The Tatum return.

2. Simons not playing in the last 5 minutes of the 4th is really telling.
We need to know what Brad gets for Simons.

I think until those 2 issues can be resolved, this is going to be an up and down season heading into the trade deadline.

[jmr07019]

I'm glad White only shot 9 times tonight. Simons didn't shoot great but 15 points in 13 shots. Pritchard 18 points on 15 shots. This type of shot distribution makes a lot more sense to me vs White shooting 18 times a game.

[Parliament10]

UTA attempted 31 3s so we out attempted them by 20

This was a LIFELESS loss, imo

I'm not really seeing the long term viability of Simons, Tillman and Garza. Garza plays hard and maybe we could use him better, try to put him into Enes's old role where we try to get him some touches at the basket.... But these threes guys, I'm not seeing a future here

And, per the thread title, is this how you spell PIZZAZZ, lol, don't think I've ever seen the word in print

11/51 from three...if you don't like that, you don't like Mazulla ball

I don't like Mazulla ball

I think that Simons should be seen as our #2 Scorer, while he's here.
Having him come off the Bench, doesn't make sense.

[Jammer]

Last week I warned everyone about the Jazz Game. Surprising thing is that Utah won without Walker Kessler.

Celtics shot like sh*t. The Jazz didn't play that well, just better than the Celtics. Celtics shot 37-89 vs. 38-84 for Utah. Utah outrebounded the Celtics 65-43. On the bright side the Celtics committed 8 less Turnovers but 1 more foul. Only Jaylen Brown, Pritch, Queta, Gonzalez and Boucher had good games. But Gonzalez and Boucher barely had any court time. Hard to win with only 3 guys playing well. Oh well ....

[return2glory]

Team is short on talent, poorly coached and boring to watch.

Biggest takeaway so far: Mazzulla showing his limitations as an X’s and O’s Coach when he doesn’t have the overwhelming talent advantage.

I gave you an and 1, on short on talent comment.

However, Joe is doing exactly what this team needs right now. And that's to lose games.

[Celts17Pride]

I’m venting tonight but the only reason Jordan Walsh is on the team and not another rebounding center (Bassey, Wiseman, Bamba etc.) is money. That’s it, just money.

No other reason other than the Celtics don’t want to spend one penny more on this team

[Parliament10]

I’m venting tonight but the only reason Jordan Walsh is on the team and not another rebounding center (Bassey, Wiseman, Bamba etc.) is money. That’s it, just money.

No other reason other than the Celtics don’t want to spend one penny more on this team

IDK about that.
We could have Waived Walsh, and Signed a Big or PG, at the Vet Minimum.

[MaxwellSmart]

Wow, never seen a bunch of refs sitting around and watching a guy trip another guy and not call a foul.....It might be time to tank.

[Celts17Pride]

I’m venting tonight but the only reason Jordan Walsh is on the team and not another rebounding center (Bassey, Wiseman, Bamba etc.) is money. That’s it, just money.

No other reason other than the Celtics don’t want to spend one penny more on this team

IDK about that.
We could have Waived Walsh, and Signed a Big or PG, at the Vet Minimum.

Could do it now, they won’t

[ryan in Maine]

UTA attempted 31 3s so we out attempted them by 20

This was a LIFELESS loss, imo

I'm not really seeing the long term viability of Simons, Tillman and Garza. Garza plays hard and maybe we could use him better, try to put him into Enes's old role where we try to get him some touches at the basket.... But these threes guys, I'm not seeing a future here

And, per the thread title, is this how you spell PIZZAZZ, lol, don't think I've ever seen the word in print

11/51 from three...if you don't like that, you don't like Mazulla ball

I don't like Mazulla ball

I think that Simons should be seen as our #2 Scorer, while he's here.
Having him come off the Bench, doesn't make sense.

I'll go farther — we should be establishing him as our clear 1B imo. He's so underrated on this board.

[Fierce1]

Short on talent now, but Brad can do something about that after December 15.

Mazzulla-Ball gave us Banner 18.
Whether we like it or not, the Celtics are a 3pt shooting team.
It's not Joe's fault that the players are missing open shots.

X's and O's is very subjective.

You have guys like White, PP, and Hauser getting a lot of minutes.
All 3 are 3pt shooters.
You can't scheme for something that those players are not capable of doing.

Sam Hauser tries to drive to the basket and bad things happen because Sam is just not good at driving to the basket.

They are 3pt shooters.

It is what it is.

[Fierce1]

UTA attempted 31 3s so we out attempted them by 20

This was a LIFELESS loss, imo

I'm not really seeing the long term viability of Simons, Tillman and Garza. Garza plays hard and maybe we could use him better, try to put him into Enes's old role where we try to get him some touches at the basket.... But these threes guys, I'm not seeing a future here

And, per the thread title, is this how you spell PIZZAZZ, lol, don't think I've ever seen the word in print

I think that Simons should be seen as our #2 Scorer, while he's here.
Having him come off the Bench, doesn't make sense.

I'll go farther — we should be establishing him as our clear 1B imo. He's so underrated on this board.

As much as I love Simons, you are sacrificing defense, rebounding, and size when it comes to Simons.

Simons is just too small for this Celtics team.
A simple case of not a good fit.

The solution is Brad trades Simons for a player with a lower salary and can better help the Celtics.

[playa-hater]

We need a top lottery pick, and joe is doing his part. Keep shooting threes, don't have an alternative plan. Play small against the very big team. Play twelve guys to keep most of them out of rhythm. Give Hugo only a few minutes so he can't assert any defense. Brilliant..

Sadly Brown is doing whatever it takes to stop us from getting my top 3 pick. But even brown's great game wasn't enough.

[return2glory]

A well deserved loss.

Who here is really upset at this loss? This were two potential lottery teams going at it. If Walker Kessler was playing, they would have won by 15 or more. If Brown didn't have a great offensive game, they would have won by 30.

Joe has been doing a really good job so far in this young season when it comes to the role players. Soon as someone like Queta or Minott string together a few good minutes, he immediately takes them out of the game and cools off their momentum. I also like how he brings in a player for 2 or 3 minutes and takes them right back out of the game.

It's too bad we beat Philly by 1 point a few days ago, or else this team would be sitting pretty at 2-6.

It's still early in the season, but we can already seen some of the signs that this is a lottery team. We aren't going to tank, we just aren't going to win too many games because the talent and coaching isn't there to win many games. And what's wrong with being a lottery team this season, when you have a top 5-7 player in the league out for the season and the team having lost Jrue, Al, and Kornet, all in the same off season. And no, I will not count KP, because he was a liability in the playoffs.

[bigboi]

Remember this board said that Celtics would be a top seed even without Tatum lmao. Now they prob won’t even make the playoffs. I guarantee if Tatum were playing, Celtics would be one of the best teams in the league. That “elite” supporting cast bs is dead

[Fierce1]

A well deserved loss.

Who here is really upset at this loss? This were two potential lottery teams going at it. If Walker Kessler was playing, they would have won by 15 or more. If Brown didn't have a great offensive game, they would have won by 30.

Joe has been doing a really good job so far in this young season when it comes to the role players. Soon as someone like Queta or Minott is string together a few good minutes, he immediately takes them out of the game and cools off their momentum. I also like how he brings in a player for 2 or 3 minutes and takes them right back out of the game.

It's too bad we beat Philly by 1 point a few days ago, or else this team would be sitting pretty at 2-6.

It's still early in the season, but we can already seen some of the signs that this is a lottery team. We aren't going to tank, we just aren't going to win too many games because the talent and coaching isn't there to win many games. And what's wrong with being a lottery team this season, when you have a top 5-7 player in the league out for the season and the team having lost Jrue, Al, and Kornet, all in the same off season. And no, I not count KP, because he was a liability in the playoffs.

I might agree with you when the Tatum and Simons situation are resolved.

[Fierce1]

Remember guys, it was only 4 years ago, November-December 2021, that the Celtics were bad then suddenly got in the NBA Finals.

This is what happens when the Cs are horrible shooting the 3.

But here's the thing, what happens when White and PP go on a hot streak and suddenly can't miss from 3?

Right now anything's possible.

I'm not ruling out the lottery, but not for November, December, and January.