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Re: JB Blazes But Celts Veer Off The Trail! Loss vs POR 12/28 

Post#21 » by Riverwalk2021 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 1:54 am

Give the Blazers credit. Didn't overhelp on Brown and he cooled off in 2nd half. They kept disciplined with that strategy going in the 2nd half so not to allow easy looks or attacks off the catch. Add in bad shooting nights for White/Pritchard and it's a loss. Move on.
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Re: JB Blazes But Celts Veer Off The Trail! Loss vs POR 12/28 

Post#22 » by Shak_Celts » Mon Dec 29, 2025 1:55 am

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Riverwalk2021 wrote:White was bad shooting-wise but was sensational defensively along with Hugo. Would have liked to see Joe go big and take Pritchard out down the stretch with Walsh instead. Sans Brown, nobody was in sync offensively so not a really surprising end with the Brown/White miscommunications. The Blazers were smart to let JB get his and hope he cooled off which kept them out of rotation and clean looks for White/Pritchard. We are terrible passing team so when the shot making isn't working, it's ugly and the offense looks out of sorts. For all the love Queta and Walsh get, they are very limited offensively. Not rocket science but that's reality when you lose an elite 6'8" playmaker and great passing bigs. That's why they need to trade for a better all around big who can open up all the offense a little bit.

Either way, we need another Player for other Teams to target.
A Big, a PG. Please, Not another Wing.

We have more Wings than KFC (Kentucky Fried Chicken).

We don’t need another player (nothing to do with Tat), we need more consistency!

Jb was hot in the first half, of course he’s going to shoot. He passed the ball a lot more in the second half tho. He spoon fed Queta a few he left short or got fouled on. No one else could shoot. Is not really going to show up.
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Re: JB Blazes But Celts Veer Off The Trail! Loss vs POR 12/28 

Post#23 » by Fierce1 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:00 am

I think Joe was just forced to go with Hauser, instead of Queta, in the last 2 minutes of the 4th because the Cs needed offense.

White and PP were just not getting it done.

JB has proven he can be the #1 option, but White is no #2 option and PP is not a #3 option.

That's why I brought up getting another scorer, like DeRozan.

Guys like MPJ, Cam Thomas, and DeRozan are some examples of scorers who could help the Cs.
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Re: JB Blazes But Celts Veer Off The Trail! Loss vs POR 12/28 

Post#24 » by Shak_Celts » Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:03 am

Riverwalk2021 wrote:Give the Blazers credit. Didn't overhelp on Brown and he cooled off in 2nd half. They kept disciplined with that strategy going in the 2nd half so not to allow easy looks or attacks off the catch. Add in bad shooting nights for White/Pritchard and it's a loss. Move on.

I tell you it’s like clockwork, check most players, when they get extra hot in the first half, it’s RARE to see them keep it up in the second half! When someone is bombing away in the 2nd half, they usually had a mediocre first half. I don’t care if you’re looking at a shooter or scorer, it’s like clockwork!

I talked about this for YEARS when we’d face LBJ in the playoffs, just about every time I was right! I begged for the strategy of letting LBJ feel himself in the first half, let him get in a few dunks, the 2nd half with a little more D and FOUL HIM when he breaks free, and he’d come back down to earth. He wasn’t going to hit fts in the 2nd half (mainly 4th Q) after a strong first half. If he was mid in the first half, he was going to break out in the second half!

It’s really that simple! Look at Clingan, he was scoring every time he touched it in the first half. He wasn’t as impactful in the second half. Of course he got the buckets and fouls they needed, but compare the first half and it’s night and day.
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Re: JB Blazes But Celts Veer Off The Trail! Loss vs POR 12/28 

Post#25 » by Fierce1 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:04 am

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Riverwalk2021 wrote:White was bad shooting-wise but was sensational defensively along with Hugo. Would have liked to see Joe go big and take Pritchard out down the stretch with Walsh instead. Sans Brown, nobody was in sync offensively so not a really surprising end with the Brown/White miscommunications. The Blazers were smart to let JB get his and hope he cooled off which kept them out of rotation and clean looks for White/Pritchard. We are terrible passing team so when the shot making isn't working, it's ugly and the offense looks out of sorts. For all the love Queta and Walsh get, they are very limited offensively. Not rocket science but that's reality when you lose an elite 6'8" playmaker and great passing bigs. That's why they need to trade for a better all around big who can open up all the offense a little bit.

Either way, we need another Player for other Teams to target.
A Big, a PG. Please, Not another Wing.

We have more Wings than KFC (Kentucky Fried Chicken).

We don’t need another player (nothing to do with Tat), we need more consistency!

Jb was hot in the first half, of course he’s going to shoot. He passed the ball a lot more in the second half tho. He spoon fed Queta a few he left short or got fouled on. No one else could shoot. Is not really going to show up.

If we're going to focus on consistency, every time the Cs shoot poorly from 3pt land, the Cs lose.

And the culprit for poor shooting from 3, in losses, it's always PP and DWhite.
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Post#26 » by Celts17Pride » Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:06 am

JB had 16 shots in the first half and the Celtics were up 8 points, he had 7 shots in the 2nd half. One could argue that the Celtics went away from what worked in the first half
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Post#27 » by Shak_Celts » Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:10 am

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Parliament10 wrote:Either way, we need another Player for other Teams to target.
A Big, a PG. Please, Not another Wing.

We have more Wings than KFC (Kentucky Fried Chicken).

We don’t need another player (nothing to do with Tat), we need more consistency!

Jb was hot in the first half, of course he’s going to shoot. He passed the ball a lot more in the second half tho. He spoon fed Queta a few he left short or got fouled on. No one else could shoot. Is not really going to show up.

If we're going to focus on consistency, every time the Cs shoot poorly from 3pt land, the Cs lose.

And the culprit for poor shooting from 3, in losses, it's always PP and DWhite.


I’m talking about everybody that shoots except JB atm. I don’t want 40 points tonight and 15 the next week of games. I don’t want 30 one night and struggle to score 2 nights in a row, but get 15 and we win so it’s all good. I don’t want a guy to play all the minutes because he isn’t a defensive liability, when he’s hesitant to shoot it. I don’t want a guy to hit 9 3s one night and shoot sub 35 most nights, when that’s their only offensive job.


With all that said, we’re still good with the ups and downs. Testament to how hard the guys are playing, props to them!
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Re: JB Blazes But Celts Veer Off The Trail! Loss vs POR 12/28 

Post#28 » by Fierce1 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:13 am

It was still a great game.

The Blazers just made more big shots in crunch time.

Cs were just down by 1-point with a little over a minute remaining in the 4th.
But 2 costly mistakes by White and JB doomed the Cs.

White is really shaky when it comes to late game executions.
He's at his best when shooting clutch shots.
But when it comes to setting up plays, DWhite is shaky, to say the least.
This is not the first time DWhite made costly mistakes in winning time.
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Post#29 » by Shak_Celts » Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:19 am

Fierce1 wrote:It was still a great game.

The Blazers just made more big shots in crunch time.

Cs were just down by 1-point with a little over a minute remaining in the 4th.
But 2 costly mistakes by White and JB doomed the Cs.

White is really shaky when it comes to late game executions.
He's at his best when shooting clutch shots.
But when it comes to setting up plays, DWhite is shaky, to say the least.
This is not the first time DWhite made costly mistakes in winning time.

At least white was trying to do something, he wasn’t just out there. Just an off night offensively. At least if you’re going to be poop on offense, do something on defense.
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Post#30 » by Shak_Celts » Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:23 am

Really, Camara changed the game going for flames from 3. Whoever that short guy was hit some clutch 3s too.
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Post#31 » by Riverwalk2021 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:25 am

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Shak_Celts wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:Either way, we need another Player for other Teams to target.
A Big, a PG. Please, Not another Wing.

We have more Wings than KFC (Kentucky Fried Chicken).

We don’t need another player (nothing to do with Tat), we need more consistency!

Jb was hot in the first half, of course he’s going to shoot. He passed the ball a lot more in the second half tho. He spoon fed Queta a few he left short or got fouled on. No one else could shoot. Is not really going to show up.

If we're going to focus on consistency, every time the Cs shoot poorly from 3pt land, the Cs lose.

And the culprit for poor shooting from 3, in losses, it's always PP and DWhite.


Well when you rely on shot making so much, this is what happens when you go cold and aren't a good passing team. We always have two starters that are poor to mediocre offensively so not sure we could be doing any better at the present time. When our elite playmaker come back, that will take pressure off both and they will get easier looks.
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Post#32 » by Shak_Celts » Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:30 am

Hey, does anyone know, have more guys gone back to shooting mid range this season? I swear, seems like every game I watch, someone gets hot from mid. It feels like shots, the last couple years, where they would try to hop back for the 3. I wonder if they are shooting it more and better.
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Post#33 » by Celts17Pride » Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:36 am

Celtics are 0-7 when Pritchard and DWhite don’t combine for at least 25 points. Tonight they had 21 points combined. It just makes sense.

Celtics have just have less of a margin this year
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Post#34 » by bfchs123 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:40 am

^This is where having JT out really hurts us. He's good no matter what kind of night he is having for 20pts+. White / PP are too streaky for that

Portland beat us at our own game shooting the 3's, 51 @35% vs. our 44 @ only 30% isn't going to cut it

Poor decision making in the final 5 minutes also did us in
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Post#35 » by redslastlaugh » Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:41 am

Yeah that tracks, there have been a bunch of games where PP + White are something in the ballpark of 6/21 combined on 3-pointers and we lose those games for the most part... I wish Derrick in particular would tamp down the dribble-up 3's and try to generate more looks for teammates. White has only had four games with at least 8 assists & we're 3-1 in those games. Payton's been better moving it; PP has six games with 8 or more assists and we are 6-0 in those games

Celts17Pride wrote:Celtics are 0-7 when Pritchard and DWhite don’t combine for at least 25 points. Tonight they had 21 points combined. It just makes sense
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Post#36 » by Riverwalk2021 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:41 am

Celts17Pride wrote:Celtics are 0-7 when Pritchard and DWhite don’t combine for at least 25 points. Tonight they had 21 points combined. It just makes sense.

Celtics have just have less of a margin this year


Well think about all their shot selections on most nights. Most are 3's/difficult/hard-working. They can't get easy looks because we have the worst passing front court in the NBA, and Brown is a pure scorer. Horford and Kornet were elite passers and Tatum is maybe the best passing 6'8" dude in the league. I give Pritchard and White credit for what they've done, especially White who has been elite on defense all year despite the increase in workload.
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Post#37 » by SuperDeluxe » Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:42 am

Shak_Celts wrote:Hey, does anyone know, have more guys gone back to shooting mid range this season? I swear, seems like every game I watch, someone gets hot from mid. It feels like shots, the last couple years, where they would try to hop back for the 3. I wonder if they are shooting it more and better.

I noticed the same thing. Then again, I only watch Celtics games these days so my impression could be skewed by the amount of mid-range shots Brown and Pritchard take.
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Post#38 » by redslastlaugh » Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:43 am

Riverwalk2021 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:Celtics are 0-7 when Pritchard and DWhite don’t combine for at least 25 points. Tonight they had 21 points combined. It just makes sense.

Celtics have just have less of a margin this year


Well thinks about all their shots. Most of their shots are 3's/difficult/hard-working. They can't get easy looks because we have the worst passing front court in the NBA and Brown is a pure scorer.


Amari Williams minutes, please!
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Post#39 » by Riverwalk2021 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:47 am

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Celts17Pride wrote:Celtics are 0-7 when Pritchard and DWhite don’t combine for at least 25 points. Tonight they had 21 points combined. It just makes sense.

Celtics have just have less of a margin this year


Well thinks about all their shots. Most of their shots are 3's/difficult/hard-working. They can't get easy looks because we have the worst passing front court in the NBA and Brown is a pure scorer.


Amari Williams minutes, please!


Try him. Because a big that could initiate offense out of the high post and get White/Pritchard easy layups would be a godsend lol
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Post#40 » by Celts17Pride » Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:47 am

The whole world knows the Celtics weakness. Celtics need another capable center. Garza is a 3rd center at best. Clingan had 18 rebounds tonight and Celtics had no answers. Celtics are going to struggle against big frontcourts

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