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Post#21 » by kingjaffyjoe » Fri Feb 1, 2008 11:41 pm

anyone who says no to this really needs to reavaluate there life. Kwame is young and really has never had a mentor in this game. Imagine how much he could learn from a guy like KG. Kwame is ALOT better then perkins, its really not even funny, he really just needs to work on not losing the ball when its passed to him, and making better decisions.

His footwork is decent, his interior defense is ok, and he has enough of an offensive game to help this team.

Kwame>>>Powe,Baby and deff. Pollord

and he is young enough where you can still mold him
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Post#22 » by hiphop1 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 11:45 pm

kingjaffyjoe wrote:anyone who says no to this really needs to reavaluate there life. Kwame is young and really has never had a mentor in this game. Imagine how much he could learn from a guy like KG. Kwame is ALOT better then perkins, its really not even funny, he really just needs to work on not losing the ball when its passed to him, and making better decisions.

His footwork is decent, his interior defense is ok, and he has enough of an offensive game to help this team.

Kwame>>>Powe,Baby and deff. Pollord

and he is young enough where you can still mold him

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Post#23 » by Bleeding Green » Sat Feb 2, 2008 12:06 am

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He cannot there is a new CBA rule against that. I say sign him up.

Neat, that's a good rule. Is that new for this year? I thought this has happened a few times in the past, which is kinda weak.
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Post#24 » by nasbahceltic » Sat Feb 2, 2008 12:11 am

kingjaffyjoe wrote:anyone who says no to this really needs to reavaluate there life. Kwame is young and really has never had a mentor in this game. Imagine how much he could learn from a guy like KG. Kwame is ALOT better then perkins, its really not even funny, he really just needs to work on not losing the ball when its passed to him, and making better decisions.

His footwork is decent, his interior defense is ok, and he has enough of an offensive game to help this team.

Kwame>>>Powe,Baby and deff. Pollord

and he is young enough where you can still mold him


Kwame has baby-sized hands thats why he has no handle. No amount of a coaching or mentoring is going to make his hands any bigger
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Post#25 » by 3pt % » Sat Feb 2, 2008 12:14 am

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Neat, that's a good rule. Is that new for this year? I thought this has happened a few times in the past, which is kinda weak.


funnily enough, it was Danny's manipulations which made the League changes the rules.

I can't remember if it was Payton or Walker, but the C's are the reason the rule is in.
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Post#26 » by threrf23 » Sat Feb 2, 2008 12:17 am

I have to say, I'm not convinced that Kwame is better than either Big Baby or Leon Powe, I don't really think he is based on what I read and what I see stat-wise +/- wise etc. But he would come at the right price, and MJ once made him the #1 pick in the draft for a reason, so I wouldn't complain.
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Post#27 » by BillessuR6 » Sat Feb 2, 2008 12:19 am

Kwame is one of the WORST players in the NBA!!! If I had to choose between watching Brown play in celtic uniform or shooting myself in the head, I would choose the second option!
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Post#28 » by 3pt % » Sat Feb 2, 2008 12:19 am

He is also a legit 7 ft post defender. Unfortunately his O really sucks, but against Duncan or Bynum in the finals? He could be pretty useful.
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Post#29 » by threrf23 » Sat Feb 2, 2008 12:25 am

I guess the other thing about Kwame, though, is every once in awhile he plays like he's a good player. We could always bring him in for a couple minutes early and bench him the rest of the game if he doesn't impress
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Post#30 » by Gant » Sat Feb 2, 2008 12:34 am

thebirdman wrote:Kwame is one of the WORST players in the NBA!!! If I had to choose between watching Brown play in celtic uniform or shooting myself in the head, I would choose the second option!


What you say has great merit birdman. I believe that is the wise and proper choice in this situation.

As was mentioned Kwame has small hands; he can't palm the ball. Despite his youth, he is probably a lost cause. His court IQ is not good. I would take either Baby or Powe over him.

Besides is there any real proof of this waiver rumor?

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Post#31 » by Rocky5000 » Sat Feb 2, 2008 12:46 am

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funnily enough, it was Danny's manipulations which made the League changes the rules.

I can't remember if it was Payton or Walker, but the C's are the reason the rule is in.


It's both of them. Payton was traded for Walker, and then Payton came back. I think it's referred to as the Gary Payton rule.
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Post#32 » by Bleeding Green » Sat Feb 2, 2008 12:48 am

Kwame can't palm the ball? Hilarious.

Still has lots of defensive value, but is probably one of the worst offensive players in the NBA. He would be useful to have, I suppose.
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Post#33 » by jfs1000d » Sat Feb 2, 2008 12:51 am

MVP16 wrote:We don't need him. I would rather have Powe/Big Baby coming off the bench. Brown would drop the passes that KG would throw to him. Brown's biggest strength is his post defense and Perk already gives us that. Kwame should go to Phoenix.

Seriously, the only potential free agents that I would consider are Sam Cassell and Kurt Thomas. Everyone else is unnecessary and just adding someone just to add someone.


We have to remember we are trying to win a title THIS YEAR. If this was a 2-3 year building process I think we would be better served developing Rondo and letting baby and Powe find minutes. But, the job is to WIN NOW.

Kwame Brown is an absolute upgrade over any non-KG big on the roster. He is tall and athletic and I think he would be a net positive THIS YEAR. If he is willing to come on a low salary, then bring him in. It's the same if we bring in Sam I Am for the PG. Is rondo's development stunted? Will Powe's and Big baby's?

Yes. But if we win who cares?

Of course you need to develop players, but now it's about winning --not developing. Ainge is being patient because we have the East wrapped up and still 5 games over the Pistons for best record. 70 wins or 65, it doesn't matter for Ainge. He is being patinet right now because he can be. But, you would be hard pressed ot find a better player than Kwame available for nothing.
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Post#34 » by hiphop1 » Sat Feb 2, 2008 1:00 am

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We have to remember we are trying to win a title THIS YEAR. If this was a 2-3 year building process I think we would be better served developing Rondo and letting baby and Powe find minutes. But, the job is to WIN NOW.

Kwame Brown is an absolute upgrade over any non-KG big on the roster. He is tall and athletic and I think he would be a net positive THIS YEAR. If he is willing to come on a low salary, then bring him in. It's the same if we bring in Sam I Am for the PG. Is rondo's development stunted? Will Powe's and Big baby's?

Yes. But if we win who cares?

Of course you need to develop players, but now it's about winning --not developing. Ainge is being patient because we have the East wrapped up and still 5 games over the Pistons for best record. 70 wins or 65, it doesn't matter for Ainge. He is being patinet right now because he can be. But, you would be hard pressed ot find a better player than Kwame available for nothing.


Could have said it better myself.
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Post#35 » by Al n' Perk No Layups! » Sat Feb 2, 2008 1:02 am

thebirdman wrote:Kwame is one of the WORST players in the NBA!!! If I had to choose between watching Brown play in celtic uniform or shooting myself in the head, I would choose the second option!


Another reason to get Kwame!


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Post#36 » by MVP16 » Sat Feb 2, 2008 1:03 am

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We have to remember we are trying to win a title THIS YEAR. If this was a 2-3 year building process I think we would be better served developing Rondo and letting baby and Powe find minutes. But, the job is to WIN NOW.

Kwame Brown is an absolute upgrade over any non-KG big on the roster. He is tall and athletic and I think he would be a net positive THIS YEAR. If he is willing to come on a low salary, then bring him in. It's the same if we bring in Sam I Am for the PG. Is rondo's development stunted? Will Powe's and Big baby's?

Yes. But if we win who cares?

Of course you need to develop players, but now it's about winning --not developing. Ainge is being patient because we have the East wrapped up and still 5 games over the Pistons for best record. 70 wins or 65, it doesn't matter for Ainge. He is being patinet right now because he can be. But, you would be hard pressed ot find a better player than Kwame available for nothing.


I agree that this year is about winning and not developing...but Kwame doesn't help us win. He pretty much duplicates Perkins and I would rather have Perk then Kwame.

Powe and Big Baby have shown that they can catch and convert around the hoop and have established good chemistry with the big 3 so they know where to be to get the pass. Kwame would just drop passes and get fouls. He is not needed for us unless Perk gets injured. Powe + Big Baby provide more offense for us off the bench, have much high bball IQ, provide more energy/hustle and already know our defensive/offensive schemes.
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Post#37 » by Jimmy103 » Sat Feb 2, 2008 1:04 am

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To be honest, I would even say he is better than Perk. With our choaching staff and character on the team, we could really get the best out of him.


Jordan tried to get the best out of Kwame and it backfired painfully...

Maybe KG can do a better job. Bring the big boy on board!!!
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Post#38 » by JahReid » Sat Feb 2, 2008 1:04 am

For the vet min you can't really go wrong. If he got get Pollard like minutes I'd be down with it. Get burn in games that are important, but certain situations when you need a big/defensive center next to KG. He can definitley defend any NBA center decent enough. He could probabley have a Perk like presence to the team... except that Kwame has a losers mentality thus far
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Post#39 » by hiphop1 » Sat Feb 2, 2008 1:12 am

We will see. First he needs to be bought out.
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Post#40 » by Al n' Perk No Layups! » Sat Feb 2, 2008 1:16 am

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funnily enough, it was Danny's manipulations which made the League changes the rules.

I can't remember if it was Payton or Walker, but the C's are the reason the rule is in.


Payton was traded to Atlanta in the Walker deal, cut, then resigned with the Celts.

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