"WCIHAoTDP?" - 2016 Draft Thread P.2

[OFWGKTA]

Lol. No kidding. I can picture someone calling up Ainge saying "Draft LeVert with the Dallas pick and we'll guarantee you a meeting with KD on July 1st".

I'd need a guarantee Durant would sign outright in order to waste the Dallas pick on this guy.

I think we already took one for the team with James Young, Durant OWES us. (ha ha)

I don't remember any other GM's sitting with his mom at his college games besides Ainge, remember your day one homies Kevin.

[Duke4life831]

Fully expect Ainge to take Grayson Allen over Thon Maker

Don't expect Grayson to be in this draft. Reports are he has told the staff he plans on coming back to Duke for one more year

[Wes-J]

I know this, Ainge could piss off all the GMs in the league by offering promises that shut down the workouts of half the field in the draft class lol. Draft night couldn't come sooner.

[threrf23]

Haven't heard so much talk about Villanova's Josh Hart. He is two years younger than Buddy Hield, and on paper is a fairly similar prospect (similar size and stats at the same age). He got the better of Hield on Saturday and you could probably make a case that he is the better prospect amongst the two.

[2Mas]

Haven't heard so much talk about Villanova's Josh Hart. He is two years younger than Buddy Hield, and on paper is a fairly similar prospect (similar size and stats at the same age). He got the better of Hield on Saturday and you could probably make a case that he is the better prospect amongst the two.

If he can develop his jumper like Hield then yeah potentially.

He is a very smart player though. Tough d, good tough, I like the kid a lot. How tall is he 6'5? Gonna havta play the 2 & he can't dribble nor shoot good enough for that. IF he was a couple inches taller I can def see him being a real good prospect.

[2Mas]

Question -- Say the lottery continues to screw us. I ran the ESPN Lotto Game 5 times. My 5 spins were #1, 6, 5, 6, 4.

Now, if we get pick 5 or 6, wtf do we do? DO we really take Hield, Dunn, or Brown?

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

Question -- Say the lottery continues to screw us. I ran the ESPN Lotto Game 5 times. My 5 spins were #1, 6, 5, 6, 4.

Now, if we get pick 5 or 6, wtf do we do? DO we really take Hield, Dunn, or Brown?

Trade the pick. Even if we get #1.

[GregB]

Question -- Say the lottery continues to screw us. I ran the ESPN Lotto Game 5 times. My 5 spins were #1, 6, 5, 6, 4.

Now, if we get pick 5 or 6, wtf do we do? DO we really take Hield, Dunn, or Brown?

I guess it depends on what we can accomplish in the offseason. For team need right now, it's definitely Brown or Hield.

I think the Celtics would prefer Brown though. He has Celtics player written all over him. He has great size length and toughness in his role. Great lateral quickness defensively and he competes hard. He isn't a great shooter but he is Jae Crowder good. He can hit the 3 at a respectable clip and can get into the lane. Not elite athlete but a very good one. I think he would fit in very well.

[Gomes3PC]

Haven't heard so much talk about Villanova's Josh Hart. He is two years younger than Buddy Hield, and on paper is a fairly similar prospect (similar size and stats at the same age). He got the better of Hield on Saturday and you could probably make a case that he is the better prospect amongst the two.

If he can develop his jumper like Hield then yeah potentially.

He is a very smart player though. Tough d, good tough, I like the kid a lot. How tall is he 6'5? Gonna havta play the 2 & he can't dribble nor shoot good enough for that. IF he was a couple inches taller I can def see him being a real good prospect.

Reminds me of Jimmy Butler. Butler, senior year:

6-7.5 wingspan, 15.7 PPG, 6.1 RPG, 2.3 APG, 1.4 SPG, 49% FG%, 35% 3PT%, 6.5 FTA/G

Hart:

6-7.5 wingspan, 15.6 PPG, 6.9 RPG, 1.9 APG, 1.1 SPG, 51% FG%, 36% 3PT%, 3.6 FTA/G

Butler is taller but they have a similar wingspan. Not saying he becomes Butler in the NBA - Jimmy improved beyond anyone's wildest expectations in the pros. But if he became what Butler was 2-3 years go (ie, 13 PPG, 5 RPG, solid shooting & D), that'd be a nice player.

Gary Harris would be another good comp for Hart, though Hart is only 6 months younger than Harris and Harris is playing in the NBA vs. Hart in college.

[threrf23]

Haven't heard so much talk about Villanova's Josh Hart. He is two years younger than Buddy Hield, and on paper is a fairly similar prospect (similar size and stats at the same age). He got the better of Hield on Saturday and you could probably make a case that he is the better prospect amongst the two.

If he can develop his jumper like Hield then yeah potentially.

He is a very smart player though. Tough d, good tough, I like the kid a lot. How tall is he 6'5? Gonna havta play the 2 & he can't dribble nor shoot good enough for that. IF he was a couple inches taller I can def see him being a real good prospect.

Reminds me of Jimmy Butler. Butler, senior year:

6-7.5 wingspan, 15.7 PPG, 6.1 RPG, 2.3 APG, 1.4 SPG, 49% FG%, 35% 3PT%, 6.5 FTA/G

Hart:

6-7.5 wingspan, 15.6 PPG, 6.9 RPG, 1.9 APG, 1.1 SPG, 51% FG%, 36% 3PT%, 3.6 FTA/G

Butler is taller but they have a similar wingspan. Not saying he becomes Butler in the NBA - Jimmy improved beyond anyone's wildest expectations in the pros. But if he became what Butler was 2-3 years go (ie, 13 PPG, 5 RPG, solid shooting & D), that'd be a nice player.

Gary Harris would be another good comp for Hart, though Hart is only 6 months younger than Harris and Harris is playing in the NBA vs. Hart in college.

Butler was my thought as well, despite the height difference. Harris was a relatively poor rebounder, which tends to be a bad omen even if it doesn't directly mean anything.

Hart shot 46% from 3 his Soph year. Where he sets himself apart on the stat sheet the most is that he shot about 60% from inside the arc this season, as the leading scorer on what turned out to be a championship caliber team.

Hield seems to be the surer thing, but Hart appears to be the more well rounded prospect of the two. Both have had a relatively similar performance curve relative to age.

[Gomes3PC]

It's hard to parse out defensive prowess for perimeter defenders statisticaly, but Hart is definitely a notch above Hield on that end as well. Maybe not Butler, but he can clearly defend well.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

Labissiere has declared. Let's hope he sucks during pre-draft workouts and falls to the Mavs pick.

[Homerclease]

Labissiere has declared. Let's hope he sucks during pre-draft workouts and falls to the Mavs pick.

Yep. He's my no.1 target with the mavs pick unless Rabb slips for some crazy reason

[Wes-J]

I'd rather see him ace the pre-draft workouts. If he can't thrive in that environment I want no part of him. Who knows we might be picking 6th and that's where we might have to take him.

[Crossy2008]

Not sure how it is going to pan out, but guys like Poeltl and Ellenson being drafted in the top ten would be huge for the Dallas pick as it will drop someone down who shouldn't be there.

Both Simmons and Labissiere had relatively disappointing seasons, and it will be interesting to see if there is any chance that Simmons could go third if whoever is picking at two values Bender or Dunn more.

I am actually starting to like this draft, but I think there will be a few misses in the top ten. Guys like Hart, Ulis, Sabonis, Valentive, and Anunoby are all looking like they have a good chance at having long NBA careers despite likely being drafted in the mid to late first round.

[Celtics_History_Lesson]

I simulated the draft lottery twice. This is the second result.

Boston (from Nets)

76ers (from Kings)

Suns

Kings (from 76ers)

76ers (from Lakers)

T-Wolves

That would be great. Celtics win, Lakers lose and are out, silly Sacramento lose pick 2 because they wanted to move salary, Lakers lose, and Lakers lose which makes it extra fun.

[djFan71]

Am I the only one who doesn't want Philly to get the Lakers pick? I have the appropriate level of hate for the purple and gold and all, but I'd rather Philly not have that 2nd pick top 5 pick. Having that gives them more flexibility on getting the guards they need. I'd rather have them needing to trade one of their bigs. I'd love to get Noel somehow.

[cl2117]

Am I the only one who doesn't want Philly to get the Lakers pick? I have the appropriate level of hate for the purple and gold and all, but I'd rather Philly not have that 2nd pick top 5 pick. Having that gives them more flexibility on getting the guards they need. I'd rather have them needing to trade one of their bigs. I'd love to get Noel somehow.

That's exactly what I was thinking. I don't really care if the Lakers lose their pick this year or next year, but if Philly gets it this year they can go SF with their pick and then take Dunn with LA's pick and they are then in no rush to move one of their bigs.

It'd just give Ainge another potential avenue to use the Brooklyn pick if Philly was still in need for a PG and shopping one of their bigs. If they can come away with Simmons, Dunn and say Hunter/Young and were willing to give up Noel or Okafor I'd be happy doing that rather than going for say Hield or Brown. And that's especially true if someone jumps up in the draft and the C's are sitting at 5 or 6.

I'd expect them to be trading Okafor though, there's been far more smoke around him, plus Noel fits better with Embiid.

[165bows]

Am I the only one who doesn't want Philly to get the Lakers pick? I have the appropriate level of hate for the purple and gold and all, but I'd rather Philly not have that 2nd pick top 5 pick. Having that gives them more flexibility on getting the guards they need. I'd rather have them needing to trade one of their bigs. I'd love to get Noel somehow.

That's exactly what I was thinking. I don't really care if the Lakers lose their pick this year or next year, but if Philly gets it this year they can go SF with their pick and then take Dunn with LA's pick and they are then in no rush to move one of their bigs.

It'd just give Ainge another potential avenue to use the Brooklyn pick if Philly was still in need for a PG and shopping one of their bigs. If they can come away with Simmons, Dunn and say Hunter/Young and were willing to give up Noel or Okafor I'd be happy doing that rather than going for say Hield or Brown. And that's especially true if someone jumps up in the draft and the C's are sitting at 5 or 6.

I'd expect them to be trading Okafor though, there's been far more smoke around him, plus Noel fits better with Embiid.

Plus I trust LA to pick the wrong guy in front of us more so than Philly, so there's that aspect, too.

[Cornbread]

Yeah, I'd like to see LAL pick 3 and Philly 4. It's hard not to hope Hinkie's strategy fails.