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[Smog]

I can't wait to watch Jaylen Brown. I think he has a real shot at being special. Certain guys you just watch and see something special... Pierce had it. Even Rondo had it. You just knew they would ball. Jaylen can own this league if he puts in the work. That steady & under control drive to the basket is a work of art. You cannot teach that. Once he is knocking down shots and knows he cannot be stopped, you're looking at Danny's best draft pick ever.

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Yeah, I love watching Brown, but I wouldn't say he's steady and under control. In his first game in Utah he had a couple of drives where he flat-out ran into his own man from two steps out (Simmons was one of them, I think).

But he's a monster athlete and should fit right in with this team's furious pace. I just keep thinking of how many of those steals from Crowder and Bradley and Smart are going to turn into Brown dunks on the other end.

[mbsnmisc]

This is the worst thread we've ever had.

Skywalker says hi.

[Homerclease]

Understandable, but they'll need shooting, and it's doubtful they'll have money to spend in 2018, since Smart and Thomas will be due new contracts and Noel will likely resign for 20+ million in 2017.

If Griffin's the 2017 free agent target, then they probably shouldn't go after Noel. I highly doubt Griffin has interest in coming to Boston though. He seems like a flakey LA guy.

Yeah I think it's Blake or trade. Otherwise maybe we sign an undervalued guy to 10-15 mil per.

Im just thinking about how much we are going to have to pay Isaiah and our other young players over the next two years. Which is why I don't think it makes sense to pay Hayward.

I don't think Blake leaves LA. And if he does the Knicks and Thunder probably have a much greater shot at landing him

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Curious as to what makes you think this, not saying you're wrong but why wouldn't the Celtics have an equal if not greater shot than those two teams?

[CelticsLV]

Yeah I think it's Blake or trade. Otherwise maybe we sign an undervalued guy to 10-15 mil per.

Im just thinking about how much we are going to have to pay Isaiah and our other young players over the next two years. Which is why I don't think it makes sense to pay Hayward.

I don't think Blake leaves LA. And if he does the Knicks and Thunder probably have a much greater shot at landing him

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Curious as to what makes you think this, not saying you're wrong but why wouldn't the Celtics have an equal if not greater shot than those two teams?

He's staying in LA anyway. Clippers have no cap space to bring in more top end talent. They can only resign their own players and sign some vet min players. They'll just give max contracts to Griffin and Paul.
Otherwise Thunder have much better chance than us. It's his home town, teaming up with top 5 player, decent supporting cast.
What we have to offer? BK picks? What differense does it make for Griffin?

I see Noel as the only player in next years FA class who would sign with us in a heartbeat if Ainge actually offered decent contract.

[Writebloc]

I don't think Blake leaves LA. And if he does the Knicks and Thunder probably have a much greater shot at landing him

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Curious as to what makes you think this, not saying you're wrong but why wouldn't the Celtics have an equal if not greater shot than those two teams?

He's staying in LA anyway. Clippers have no cap space to bring in more top end talent. They can only resign their own players and sign some vet min players. They'll just give max contracts to Griffin and Paul.
Otherwise Thunder have much better chance than us. It's his home town, teaming up with top 5 player, decent supporting cast.
What we have to offer? BK picks? What differense does it make for Griffin?

I see Noel as the only player in next years FA class who would sign with us in a heartbeat if Ainge actually offered decent contract.

Gordon Hayward seems to be a legit option.

[Froob]

Need moar rumors and less Sixer fans .

[Tiny ball]

Curious as to what makes you think this, not saying you're wrong but why wouldn't the Celtics have an equal if not greater shot than those two teams?

He's staying in LA anyway. Clippers have no cap space to brin

g in more top end talent. They can only resign their own players and sign some vet min players. They'll just give max contracts to Griffin and Paul.
Otherwise Thunder have much better chance than us. It's his home town, teaming up with top 5 player, decent supporting cast.
What we have to offer? BK picks? What differense does it make for Griffin?

I see Noel as the only player in next years FA class who would sign with us in a heartbeat if Ainge actually offered decent contract.

Gordon Hayward seems to be a legit option.

I like Hayward a lot.

[CelticFaninLBC]

He's staying in LA anyway. Clippers have no cap space to bring in more top end talent. They can only resign their own players and sign some vet min players. They'll just give max contracts to Griffin and Paul.
Otherwise Thunder have much better chance than us. It's his home town, teaming up with top 5 player, decent supporting cast.
What we have to offer? BK picks? What differense does it make for Griffin?

I see Noel as the only player in next years FA class who would sign with us in a heartbeat if Ainge actually offered decent contract.

Gordon Hayward seems to be a legit option.

Yep, can't see them punting to 2018 free agency, and the superstar probably comes via a trade. Ainge will have plenty of trade assets if sign Hayward. They probably need to turn a few of the guards into a big before next summer..

[BakersDozen]

So next season this could be realistic

IT
Hayward
Crowder
Horford
Noel


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[KGboss]

Saying no to Hayward. He doesnt move the needle at all for us and i dont think Ainge is as interested in him as everyone thinks.

[CelticsLV]

Don't see why would Utah not resign Hayward. They seem determined to be competitive. It's not like Hayward is holding back some young and upcoming SF on their roster. He's arguably their best player. If anything, i see Favors as the one who might get shipped out before or during next years free agency. Lyles looks really good and he's much better fit next to Gobert because of his ability to strech floor. They could easily free up over 20 million next summer to bring in some high end talent or maybe 2 decent role players for better fit. Plus they could get some decent asset or 2 for Favors. Then they can just go all-in by resigning their own players (like Hayward, Gobert and others).
That's how i see their situation.

[jirrit]

Don't see why would Utah not resign Hayward. They seem determined to be competitive. It's not like Hayward is holding back some young and upcoming SF on their roster. He's arguably their best player. If anything, i see Favors as the one who might get shipped out before or during next years free agency. Lyles looks really good and he's much better fit next to Gobert because of his ability to strech floor. They could easily free up over 20 million next summer to bring in some high end talent or maybe 2 decent role players for better fit. Plus they could get some decent asset or 2 for Favors. Then they can just go all-in by resigning their own players (like Hayward, Gobert and others).
That's how i see their situation.

Is he restricted or unrestricted? I thought unrestricted so they dont really have a choice?

[CelticsLV]

Don't see why would Utah not resign Hayward. They seem determined to be competitive. It's not like Hayward is holding back some young and upcoming SF on their roster. He's arguably their best player. If anything, i see Favors as the one who might get shipped out before or during next years free agency. Lyles looks really good and he's much better fit next to Gobert because of his ability to strech floor. They could easily free up over 20 million next summer to bring in some high end talent or maybe 2 decent role players for better fit. Plus they could get some decent asset or 2 for Favors. Then they can just go all-in by resigning their own players (like Hayward, Gobert and others).
That's how i see their situation.

Is he restricted or unrestricted? I thought unrestricted so they dont really have a choice?

My mistake. Yeah he'll be unrestricted so that complicates things. Missed part where player exercising player option becomes unrestricted FA.
I guess Clippers can't resign both Griffin and Paul either but just one.

[ddb]

here's what is interesting to me right now. As knowledgeable & passionate Celtic fans, we're always thinking ahead. Like way ahead. Which is good and bad. I bring up this point because I'm starting to think we're overlooking a potentially AWESOME team this season. We're already looking to make changes NEXT OFF SEASON. But let's take a step back and start paying closer attention to what Danny has been able to assemble already.
Are we the Golden State Warriors with 4 All-NBA performers? no. Are we the defending Champions with King James on the roster? nope. We're not even the automatic Spurs.... But when I break down our current roster I can't help but think this team has a chance to be WAY better then people think. I really mean it. Of course a lot has to happen in order for this to be true. things like the following:

-Smart needs to take a big leap forward
-Jaylen Brown needs to be legit
-Rozier needs to be ready to step in and be good
-Can IT/Horford continue playing at All-Star levels?

Stuff like this needs to happen. But if these things DO happen......Watch out. I am getting an 04 Pistons-like feel to this team...

This team is going to be a league leader defensively. We already know what Avery, Marcus and Jae can do to impact games defensively. I think Jaylen and Rozier will add even more defensive versatility & tenacity. Now we're adding in Horford who is a major defensive upgrade over Sullinger. Amir defends well too. I just think defensively we'll be among the top 2 or 3 teams.

Offensively, people will say we don't have a super star.... but we have a number of guys that can do a number of things. Obviously IT/Horford need to pace this offense. But I'm also looking at Jaylen Brown as a guy that can come off the bench and provide a lot of offense. Especially with KO/Jonas spacing the floor... I see Rozier/Smart/Jaylen being VERY difficult to stop if they remain aggressive.

Opposing teams are going to have a very difficult time figuring out & beating the Celtics. I think we're a 58 win team this year

[truth18]

You're my dude DDB. But these 04 Pistons comparisons are starting to straight up piss me off now. I just don't see it at all.

Can someone break it down for me in detail? Because it currently makes no sense to me.

[OFWGKTA]

Don't see why would Utah not resign Hayward. They seem determined to be competitive. It's not like Hayward is holding back some young and upcoming SF on their roster. He's arguably their best player. If anything, i see Favors as the one who might get shipped out before or during next years free agency. Lyles looks really good and he's much better fit next to Gobert because of his ability to strech floor. They could easily free up over 20 million next summer to bring in some high end talent or maybe 2 decent role players for better fit. Plus they could get some decent asset or 2 for Favors. Then they can just go all-in by resigning their own players (like Hayward, Gobert and others).
That's how i see their situation.

Is he restricted or unrestricted? I thought unrestricted so they dont really have a choice?

My mistake. Yeah he'll be unrestricted so that complicates things. Missed part where player exercising player option becomes unrestricted FA.
I guess Clippers can't resign both Griffin and Paul either but just one.

They have bird rights for both, they can re-sign both

[ddb]

You're my dude DDB. But these 04 Pistons comparisons are starting to straight up piss me off now. I just don't see it at all.

Can someone break it down for me in detail? Because it currently makes no sense to me.

Let me be more clear. I am not comparing the roster & players. I am comparing the Celtics to the 04 Pistons simply relating to how Boston may be able to walk through the season overlooked and underrated. I think Boston is going to be very, very tough this season

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

You're my dude DDB. But these 04 Pistons comparisons are starting to straight up piss me off now. I just don't see it at all.

Can someone break it down for me in detail? Because it currently makes no sense to me.

I think it's somewhat of a lazy comparison myself, and the only thing the teams have in common is that neither team had a true superstar. Both are very good (well, the Pistons were actually elite) defensive teams. Other than that, I don't see the comparison either.

Isaiah and Chauncey are both the go-to guys. However, Billups is superior defensively, while Isaiah is better offensively. Don't see anyone on the Celtics replicating what Rip Hamilton did for Detroit. Crowder is a nice 3-D guy, just like Prince was. Horford would be similar to Sheed I guess(???), but the Celtics lack a rebounder/rim protector that the Pistons had in Big Ben.

In terms of style of play - well, these Celtics will play at a far much faster pace than the Pistons ever did.

Let's just squash the comparison right now and let the 2016-17 Boston Celtics be themselves.

[ddb]

You're my dude DDB. But these 04 Pistons comparisons are starting to straight up piss me off now. I just don't see it at all.

Can someone break it down for me in detail? Because it currently makes no sense to me.

I think it's somewhat of a lazy comparison myself, and the only thing the teams have in common is that neither team had a true superstar. Both are very good (well, the Pistons were actually elite) defensive teams. Other than that, I don't see the comparison either.

Isaiah and Chauncey are both the go-to guys. However, Billups is superior defensively, while Isaiah is better offensively. Don't see anyone on the Celtics replicating what Rip Hamilton did for Detroit. Crowder is a nice 3-D guy, just like Prince was. Horford would be similar to Sheed I guess(???), but the Celtics lack a rebounder/rim protector that the Pistons had in Big Ben.

In terms of style of play - well, these Celtics will play at a far much faster pace than the Pistons ever did.

Let's just squash the comparison right now and let the 2016-17 Boston Celtics be themselves.

I AM NOT COMPARING THE ROSTER. only comparing each teams status in the league. The Celtics could walk through this season overlooked and underrated. That's my comparison.

[truth18]

You're my dude DDB. But these 04 Pistons comparisons are starting to straight up piss me off now. I just don't see it at all.

Can someone break it down for me in detail? Because it currently makes no sense to me.

Let me be more clear. I am not comparing the roster & players. I am comparing the Celtics to the 04 Pistons simply relating to how Boston may be able to walk through the season overlooked and underrated. I think Boston is going to be very, very tough this season

Word. Others have made a more direct comparison so I thought you were doing the same.