Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason?

[GreenBloodedC]

19, 22, 9, 24..

Thats the amount of shots Jaylen has taken per game in this series. With Kyrie, Hayward and an improved Tatum, he wont average close to that amount next season.. Will he be happy going back to a "developmental" prospect and role player?.. I dont get the sense that he would.

He seems to have an alpha personality and seems to also be prone to pouting. I think if the chance arises, you take a chance on the better current player that fits the timeline of your better players.. and allow Brown to flourish elsewhere vs competing with time and shots with 2 similarly talented wings and one who may already be better in Tatum(he's not, but its close)

Kawhi would step in and immediately be the best player on the team and best player in the East if LeBron leaves. Thats a larger disparity than even stats would display.

Of course if someone like Kawhi or AD is available, trading Brown is something to consider.

But not because he won't be getting those amount of shots with Kyrie and Hayward back.

Knowing what we have in Brown, he would accept the challenge and try to earn the right to take near those amount of shots even with Kyrie and Hayward back.

He was in the doghouse last year, but when given the opportunity in the playoffs, he embraced it and thrived. Moving forward, I hope he keeps the same mindset.

[nickgammon]

19, 22, 9, 24..

Thats the amount of shots Jaylen has taken per game in this series. With Kyrie, Hayward and an improved Tatum, he wont average close to that amount next season.. Will he be happy going back to a "developmental" prospect and role player?.. I dont get the sense that he would.

He seems to have an alpha personality and seems to also be prone to pouting. I think if the chance arises, you take a chance on the better current player that fits the timeline of your better players.. and allow Brown to flourish elsewhere vs competing with time and shots with 2 similarly talented wings and one who may already be better in Tatum(he's not, but its close)

Kawhi would step in and immediately be the best player on the team and best player in the East if LeBron leaves. Thats a larger disparity than even stats would display.

Of course if someone like Kawhi or AD is available, trading Brown is something to consider.

But not because he won't be getting those amount of shots with Kyrie and Hayward back.

Knowing what we have in Brown, he would accept the challenge and try to earn the right to take near those amount of shots even with Kyrie and Hayward back.

He was in the doghouse last year, but when given the opportunity in the playoffs, he embraced it and thrived. Moving forward, I hope he keeps the same mindset.

I think he and maybe Jayson will be an option over Gordon. I’m sure Gordon will get his looks, but I could see his role being more of the guy that helps facilitate the offense and gets guys set defensively, then takes his shots when he needs to. Think Al Horford but a wing with better scoring ability.

[KGboss]

19, 22, 9, 24..

Thats the amount of shots Jaylen has taken per game in this series. With Kyrie, Hayward and an improved Tatum, he wont average close to that amount next season.. Will he be happy going back to a "developmental" prospect and role player?.. I dont get the sense that he would.

He seems to have an alpha personality and seems to also be prone to pouting. I think if the chance arises, you take a chance on the better current player that fits the timeline of your better players.. and allow Brown to flourish elsewhere vs competing with time and shots with 2 similarly talented wings and one who may already be better in Tatum(he's not, but its close)

Kawhi would step in and immediately be the best player on the team and best player in the East if LeBron leaves. Thats a larger disparity than even stats would display.

Of course if someone like Kawhi or AD is available, trading Brown is something to consider.

But not because he won't be getting those amount of shots with Kyrie and Hayward back.

Knowing what we have in Brown, he would accept the challenge and try to earn the right to take near those amount of shots even with Kyrie and Hayward back.

He was in the doghouse last year, but when given the opportunity in the playoffs, he embraced it and thrived. Moving forward, I hope he keeps the same mindset.

I think he and maybe Jayson will be an option over Gordon. I’m sure Gordon will get his looks, but I could see his role being more of the guy that helps facilitate the offense and gets guys set defensively, then takes his shots when he needs to. Think Al Horford but a wing with better scoring ability.

I don't see that at all. Hayward is a proven all star. He's going to play within the offense but he isnt going to take a back seat here.

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19, 22, 9, 24..

Thats the amount of shots Jaylen has taken per game in this series. With Kyrie, Hayward and an improved Tatum, he wont average close to that amount next season.. Will he be happy going back to a "developmental" prospect and role player?.. I dont get the sense that he would.

He seems to have an alpha personality and seems to also be prone to pouting. I think if the chance arises, you take a chance on the better current player that fits the timeline of your better players.. and allow Brown to flourish elsewhere vs competing with time and shots with 2 similarly talented wings and one who may already be better in Tatum(he's not, but its close)

Kawhi would step in and immediately be the best player on the team and best player in the East if LeBron leaves. Thats a larger disparity than even stats would display.

Of course if someone like Kawhi or AD is available, trading Brown is something to consider.

But not because he won't be getting those amount of shots with Kyrie and Hayward back.

Knowing what we have in Brown, he would accept the challenge and try to earn the right to take near those amount of shots even with Kyrie and Hayward back.

He was in the doghouse last year, but when given the opportunity in the playoffs, he embraced it and thrived. Moving forward, I hope he keeps the same mindset.

I think he and maybe Jayson will be an option over Gordon. I’m sure Gordon will get his looks, but I could see his role being more of the guy that helps facilitate the offense and gets guys set defensively, then takes his shots when he needs to. Think Al Horford but a wing with better scoring ability.

I think the other team will be allowed to pick its poison.

That said, of Irving, Brown, Hayward, Tatum and Horford, Brown is likely to be the least good at creating offense from a starting position of being well-guarded with a ball in his hands. But he's also likely to be the best of all at getting to a spot where passing him the ball would be a very, very good idea.

[Hybrid Shadow]

[ddb]

19, 22, 9, 24..

Thats the amount of shots Jaylen has taken per game in this series. With Kyrie, Hayward and an improved Tatum, he wont average close to that amount next season.. Will he be happy going back to a "developmental" prospect and role player?.. I dont get the sense that he would.

He seems to have an alpha personality and seems to also be prone to pouting. I think if the chance arises, you take a chance on the better current player that fits the timeline of your better players.. and allow Brown to flourish elsewhere vs competing with time and shots with 2 similarly talented wings and one who may already be better in Tatum(he's not, but its close)

Kawhi would step in and immediately be the best player on the team and best player in the East if LeBron leaves. Thats a larger disparity than even stats would display.

I think Jaylen is 2nd leading scorer next season even with Hayward back. I think Kyrie averages 22-23ppg, Jaylen averages 19-20ppg, Hayward 17-18ppg, Tatum 15ppg, Horford, Rozier and Morris all around 10-11ppg

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[DoubleHappiness]

19, 22, 9, 24..

Thats the amount of shots Jaylen has taken per game in this series. With Kyrie, Hayward and an improved Tatum, he wont average close to that amount next season.. Will he be happy going back to a "developmental" prospect and role player?.. I dont get the sense that he would.

He seems to have an alpha personality and seems to also be prone to pouting. I think if the chance arises, you take a chance on the better current player that fits the timeline of your better players.. and allow Brown to flourish elsewhere vs competing with time and shots with 2 similarly talented wings and one who may already be better in Tatum(he's not, but its close)

Kawhi would step in and immediately be the best player on the team and best player in the East if LeBron leaves. Thats a larger disparity than even stats would display.

I think Jaylen is 2nd leading scorer next season even with Hayward back. I think Kyrie averages 22-23ppg, Jaylen averages 19-20ppg, Hayward 17-18ppg, Tatum 15ppg, Horford, Rozier and Morris all around 10-11ppg

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I respect your opinion on here and I hope this is true. I hated the Jaylen pick, because I had never seen his game. I was a supporter pretty early in his tenure last year, when lots of people were still hating. I don't think he has/had an innate feel for the game the way Tatum does, but he is a great athlete with a natural strength through contact that is rare.

I always thought his ability to finish with the off-hand was preternatural. But one thing that sealed it for me was this sequence from last game. Youtube timestamps don't work on this forum so skip to 1:54:

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Notice: In the first play he takes on Giannis at the rim and flips it in (using his left). Very next play: fights to the rack using his right (through contact) also on Giannis.

Edit: He might score 12 next game. Don't hate. This dude has clearly been influenced by Jordan.

[robbie84]

At this point i think the ultimate aim is to roll with Kyrie, Tatum and Brown while we still have Hayward and Horford under contract.
When Horford and Hayward expire, Davis will be a free agent.
We cant give him supermax, but we'll be very, very enticing indeed.

[Fencer reregistered]

19, 22, 9, 24..

Thats the amount of shots Jaylen has taken per game in this series. With Kyrie, Hayward and an improved Tatum, he wont average close to that amount next season.. Will he be happy going back to a "developmental" prospect and role player?.. I dont get the sense that he would.

He seems to have an alpha personality and seems to also be prone to pouting. I think if the chance arises, you take a chance on the better current player that fits the timeline of your better players.. and allow Brown to flourish elsewhere vs competing with time and shots with 2 similarly talented wings and one who may already be better in Tatum(he's not, but its close)

Kawhi would step in and immediately be the best player on the team and best player in the East if LeBron leaves. Thats a larger disparity than even stats would display.

I think Jaylen is 2nd leading scorer next season even with Hayward back. I think Kyrie averages 22-23ppg, Jaylen averages 19-20ppg, Hayward 17-18ppg, Tatum 15ppg, Horford, Rozier and Morris all around 10-11ppg

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The more ball movement we have the higher Jaylen's fraction of the total scoring will likely be.

[Fencer reregistered]

19, 22, 9, 24..

Thats the amount of shots Jaylen has taken per game in this series. With Kyrie, Hayward and an improved Tatum, he wont average close to that amount next season.. Will he be happy going back to a "developmental" prospect and role player?.. I dont get the sense that he would.

He seems to have an alpha personality and seems to also be prone to pouting. I think if the chance arises, you take a chance on the better current player that fits the timeline of your better players.. and allow Brown to flourish elsewhere vs competing with time and shots with 2 similarly talented wings and one who may already be better in Tatum(he's not, but its close)

Kawhi would step in and immediately be the best player on the team and best player in the East if LeBron leaves. Thats a larger disparity than even stats would display.

I think Jaylen is 2nd leading scorer next season even with Hayward back. I think Kyrie averages 22-23ppg, Jaylen averages 19-20ppg, Hayward 17-18ppg, Tatum 15ppg, Horford, Rozier and Morris all around 10-11ppg

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I respect your opinion on here and I hope this is true. I hated the Jaylen pick, because I had never seen his game. I was a supporter pretty early in his tenure last year, when lots of people were still hating. I don't think he has/had an innate feel for the game the way Tatum does, but he is a great athlete with a natural strength through contact that is rare.

I always thought his ability to finish with the off-hand was preternatural. But one thing that sealed it for me was this sequence from last game. Youtube timestamps don't work on this forum so skip to 1:54:

Watch on YouTube

Notice: In the first play he takes on Giannis at the rim and flips it in (using his left). Very next play: fights to the rack using his right (through contact) also on Giannis.

Edit: He might score 12 next game. Don't hate. This dude has clearly been influenced by Jordan.

If anybody should be able to endure contact, it's the son of a heavyweight boxing champion.

[ddb]

For those of us old enough to have been through multiple eras of professional basketball, we have all witnessed young players develop into star players. For me, I'd like to think I have a pretty darn good grasp of evaluating NBA talent. For example, the moment Paul Pierce stepped on an NBA floor you knew he was special. I remember watching Rondo play garbage minutes in the preseason during his rookie season and saying to myself, "this kid is going to be GOOD." you get what I'm trying to say here....As it relates to Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum......these kids are STUDS. They will both be NBA All-Stars. We are literally witnessing Jaylen Brown's ascend into stardom. He has been arguably the 2nd best player in this series behind Giannis. Guys, he's 21 years old. This kid WANTS to be great. He wants to be an ambassador of the game globally. His mind, his talent and his work ethic are special. And that's just Jaylen Brown. Don't get me started with Jayson Tatum. This kid is ahead of the curve. He's a rookie doing things that rookies shouldn't do. And not only is he a rookie, he's a young rookie. He barely played in college. If I stopped watching professional basketball today and then picked it back up in 5 years having not watched or heard of a single thing about the NBA in between, I would be absolutely SHOCKED if Tatum wasn't a multiple time All-Star by that time.

Rozier is another one. He isn't a Tatum/Brown level prospect, but he is very good. He is a high caliber NBA player who brings toughness and fearlessness to the court.

Ainge has done a great job. A really great job drafting as of late. Gotta give him credit.

[DaTruth34]

For those of us old enough to have been through multiple eras of professional basketball, we have all witnessed young players develop into star players. For me, I'd like to think I have a pretty darn good grasp of evaluating NBA talent. For example, the moment Paul Pierce stepped on an NBA floor you knew he was special. I remember watching Rondo play garbage minutes in the preseason during his rookie season and saying to myself, "this kid is going to be GOOD." you get what I'm trying to say here....As it relates to Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum......these kids are STUDS. They will both be NBA All-Stars. We are literally witnessing Jaylen Brown's ascend into stardom. He has been arguably the 2nd best player in this series behind Giannis. Guys, he's 21 years old. This kid WANTS to be great. He wants to be an ambassador of the game globally. His mind, his talent and his work ethic are special. And that's just Jaylen Brown. Don't get me started with Jayson Tatum. This kid is ahead of the curve. He's a rookie doing things that rookies shouldn't do. And not only is he a rookie, he's a young rookie. He barely played in college. If I stopped watching professional basketball today and then picked it back up in 5 years having not watched or heard of a single thing about the NBA in between, I would be absolutely SHOCKED if Tatum wasn't a multiple time All-Star by that time.

Rozier is another one. He isn't a Tatum/Brown level prospect, but he is very good. He is a high caliber NBA player who brings toughness and fearlessness to the court.

Ainge has done a great job. A really great job drafting as of late. Gotta give him credit.

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[Edug27]

How dare you leave out Al Horford.

[Tyakack]

If you aren't a star on this team right now you aren't untouchable. I'd hate to see either brown or tatum go.... When we win the championship with leonard I will think of whichever gets sent off. *tear tear*. What could have been.

[Edug27]

For those of us old enough to have been through multiple eras of professional basketball, we have all witnessed young players develop into star players. For me, I'd like to think I have a pretty darn good grasp of evaluating NBA talent. For example, the moment Paul Pierce stepped on an NBA floor you knew he was special. I remember watching Rondo play garbage minutes in the preseason during his rookie season and saying to myself, "this kid is going to be GOOD." you get what I'm trying to say here....As it relates to Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum......these kids are STUDS. They will both be NBA All-Stars. We are literally witnessing Jaylen Brown's ascend into stardom. He has been arguably the 2nd best player in this series behind Giannis. Guys, he's 21 years old. This kid WANTS to be great. He wants to be an ambassador of the game globally. His mind, his talent and his work ethic are special. And that's just Jaylen Brown. Don't get me started with Jayson Tatum. This kid is ahead of the curve. He's a rookie doing things that rookies shouldn't do. And not only is he a rookie, he's a young rookie. He barely played in college. If I stopped watching professional basketball today and then picked it back up in 5 years having not watched or heard of a single thing about the NBA in between, I would be absolutely SHOCKED if Tatum wasn't a multiple time All-Star by that time.

Rozier is another one. He isn't a Tatum/Brown level prospect, but he is very good. He is a high caliber NBA player who brings toughness and fearlessness to the court.

Ainge has done a great job. A really great job drafting as of late. Gotta give him credit.

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The kid is definitely a stud. He always had the skill, just needed the confidence. And confidence comes with repetition.. trial and error. With Kyrie out, he is now in a position to play free. I always go back to what Durant said on the Bill Simmons podcast. As a high pick, you learn the most from being out there, making mistakes, playing through those mistakes, learning what you can and can't do, and having a green light to play your game. You would have seen more of these flashes from Jaylen last year had he played on a REAL lottery team rather than a ECF team.

He now has confidence in his shot. He feels he can make anything, from any spot, no matter who puts a hand in his face. He feels he can put the ball on the floor and drive on anyone.. no matter how good a defender you are. Once he continues to keep tightening up that handle, understanding where to place the ball on his passes, and not zoning out on defense... The dude will be an all star level player.

[Scarletfire81]

If you aren't a star on this team right now you aren't untouchable. I'd hate to see either brown or tatum go.... When we win the championship with leonard I will think of whichever gets sent off. *tear tear*. What could have been.

If AD was available then I would agree. But IMO the gap isn’t that big between Jaylen and Kawhi, also we don’t know how serious the injury is to Kawhi. It’s just not worth it IMO.

[Tyakack]

If you aren't a star on this team right now you aren't untouchable. I'd hate to see either brown or tatum go.... When we win the championship with leonard I will think of whichever gets sent off. *tear tear*. What could have been.

If AD was available then I would agree. But IMO the gap isn’t that big between Jaylen and Kawhi, also we don’t know how serious the injury is to Kawhi. It’s just not worth it IMO.

Oh my lord............

[sam_I_am]

I love Brown and who knows how good he’ll be. But watch the Kawhi highlights below and it is clear: Kawhi is bigger, faster, smoother, has a much better handle, has much better court vision, is an even better defender and has a much more reliable shot.

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[Larry Legend 33]

I love Brown and who knows how good he’ll be. But watch the Kawhi highlights below and it is clear: Kawhi is bigger, faster, smoother, has a much better handle, has much better court vision, is an even better defender and has a much more reliable shot.

Watch on YouTube

Breaking news: 26 year old Kawhi Leonard is better than 21 year old Jaylen Brown.

[DaTruth34]

I love Brown and who knows how good he’ll be. But watch the Kawhi highlights below and it is clear: Kawhi is bigger, faster, smoother, has a much better handle, has much better court vision, is an even better defender and has a much more reliable shot.

Watch on YouTube

Breaking news: 26 year old Kawhi Leonard is better than 21 year old Jaylen Brown.

Kawhi is 27, June 29

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