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The Trade Thread "Dead" #4: The Fun is OVER...For now.

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Re: The Trade Thread #4: The Fun is Coming to an End. 

Post#201 » by Celtics_Champs » Thu Feb 6, 2020 6:39 pm

Joshyjess wrote:Celitcs fans at the trade deadline - "Come on Danny, get rid of some of those draft picks for a fringe player!!!!"
Celtics fans on draft day - "Man, I wish we had more draft picks so we could pick up this potentially good fringe player!!!" :lol:


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Re: The Trade Thread #4: The Fun is Coming to an End. 

Post#202 » by UNCBlue012 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 6:39 pm

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YOOO. I may be in the minority, but I love Collins.
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Re: The Trade Thread #4: The Fun is Coming to an End. 

Post#203 » by SMTBSI » Thu Feb 6, 2020 6:39 pm

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There are a few 2nd-round picks who hit really big, like Jokic or Marc Gasol (who was a key trade piece for the team that first drafted him). Ainge hasn't had one of those. But BBD, Powe, Semi and so on give him a decent 2nd-round track record even so.

I do agree that those successes haven't been all that important ... and by the way, Ainge has been pretty free to trade his 2nd-round picks away.


That is one of the worst track records in the league, he got that in over 15 years, and it's not like asking to get an all-star with second rounds, just good bench players, or to get a starter in over 15 years like most teams do.


Abdel Nader, E'twaun Moore & Kadeem Allen say hi ;-)

Oh well, I guess you gotta go through all the second round picks who've hit and make a percentage list, and also a definition of when you really hit. Unless you've done that you're just talking with your anti DA-goggles on.

Ask and ye shall receive.

This is Ainge's entire draft history.

My methodology removes players we drafted for another team as part of an already agreed upon trade, and includes players another team drafted for us as part of an already agreed upon trade. (This leads to some strange cases like excluding Jeff Green, since we drafted him for Seattle, even though we clearly also liked him as well, since I can't know for sure if he was actually going to be our guy at #5. But every method has flaws and I think this is the least flawed.)


Sorted by year:
2019
#14 Romeo Langford
#22 Grant Williams
#33 Carsen Edwards
#51 Tremont Waters

20'18
#27 Robert Williams

2017
#03 Jayson Tatum
#37 Semi Ojeleye
#53 Kadeem Allen
#56 Jabari Bird

2016
#03 Jaylen Brown
#16 Guerschon Yabusele
#23 Ante Zizic
#45 Demetrius Jackson
#51 Ben Bentil
#58 Abdel Nader

2015
#16 Terry Rozier
#28 RJ Hunter
#33 Jordan Mickey
#45 Marcus Thornton

2014
#06 Marcus Smart
#17 James Young

2013
#13 Kelly Olynyk
#53 Colton Iverson

2012
#21 Jared Sullinger
#22 Fab Melo
#51 Kris Joseph

2011
#27 JaJuan Johnson
#55 E'Twaun Moore

2010
#19 Avery Bradley
#52 Luke Harangody

2009
#58 Lester Hudson

2008
#30 JR Giddens
#47 Henry Walker
#60 Semi Erden

2007
#32 Gabe Pruitt
#35 Glen Davis

2006
#21 Rajon Rondo
#49 Leon Powe

2005
#18 Gerald Green
#50 Ryan Gomes
#53 Orien Green

2004
#15 Al Jefferson
#24 Delonte West
#25 Tony Allen
#40 Justin Reed

2003
#13 Marcus Banks
#27 Kendrick Perkins
#56 Brandon Hunter



Sorted by slot:
#03 Brown, Jaylen
Tatum, Jayson
#06 Smart, Marcus
#13 Olynyk, Kelly
Banks, Marcus
#14 Langford, Romeo
#15 Jefferson, Al
#16 Rozier, Terry
Yabusele, Guerschon
#17 Young, James
#18 Green, Gerald
#19 Bradley, Avery
#21 Rondo, Rajon
Sullinger, Jared
#22 Melo, Feb
Williams, Grant
#23 Zizic, Ante
#24 West, Delonte
#25 Allen, Tony
#27 Perkins, Kendrick
Johnson, JaJuan
Williams, Robert
#28 Hunter, RJ
#30 Giddens, JR
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#32 Pruitt, Gabe
#33 Mickey, Jordan
Edwards, Carsen
#35 Davis, Glen
#37 Ojeleye, Semi
#40 Reed, Justin
#45 Thornton, Marcus
Jackson, Demetrius
#47 Walker, Henry
#49 Powe, Leon
#50 Gomes, Ryan
#51 Joseph, Kris
Bentil, Ben
Waters, Tremont
#52 Harangody, Luke
#53 Green, Orien
Iverson, Colton
Allen, Kadeem
#55 Moore, E'Twuan
#56 Hunter, Brandon
Bird, Jabari
#58 Hudson, Lester
Nader, Abdel
#60 Erden, Semih
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Re: The Trade Thread #4: The Fun is Coming to an End. 

Post#204 » by djFan71 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 6:40 pm

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djFan71 wrote:Edwards/Semi/Green/MIL 20 for Wood/Kieff???


Not bad however I think that's a bit of an overpay. I'd move the frenchman, Mil pick and some filler. Not Semi.

Yeah, slight overpay, but if we're crawling back to the table... Poirier/Semi, either is fine by me.
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Re: The Trade Thread #4: The Fun is Coming to an End. 

Post#205 » by Fencer reregistered » Thu Feb 6, 2020 6:40 pm

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djFan71 wrote:Edwards/Semi/Green/MIL 20 for Wood/Kieff???


Not bad however I think that's a bit of an overpay. I'd move the frenchman, Mil pick and some filler. Not Semi.


We could afford to send out one solid rotation player in a deal for those two.
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Re: The Trade Thread #4: The Fun is Coming to an End. 

Post#206 » by UNCBlue012 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 6:40 pm

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LMAO. Bad franchises gonna be bad
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Re: The Trade Thread #4: The Fun is Coming to an End. 

Post#207 » by chrisab123 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 6:40 pm

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Why take Collins when we have Vincent Porier?

Sorry but it just irks me seeing this team consistently standing pat every single trade deadline.
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Post#208 » by rob4748 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 6:40 pm

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YOOO. I may be in the minority, but I love Collins.


I don't think that account is legit.
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Re: The Trade Thread #4: The Fun is Coming to an End. 

Post#209 » by SmartWentCrazy » Thu Feb 6, 2020 6:41 pm

KOC throwing out Bertans rumors. I think I’d give away the Mil pick and our pick for him. **** it.
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Re: The Trade Thread #4: The Fun is Coming to an End. 

Post#210 » by djFan71 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 6:42 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:KOC throwing out Bertans rumors. I think I’d give away the Mil pick and our pick for him. **** it.

Step back from the ledge man!
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Re: The Trade Thread #4: The Fun is Coming to an End. 

Post#211 » by Homerclease » Thu Feb 6, 2020 6:42 pm

Collins or Wood would be amazing but I’m not getting my hopes up for either. Still have no clue why Atlanta would dump Collins
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Re: The Trade Thread #4: The Fun is Coming to an End. 

Post#212 » by watsonthedragon » Thu Feb 6, 2020 6:42 pm

Is that twitter account legit? If so, I wonder what it would take to get Collins...
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Re: The Trade Thread #4: The Fun is Coming to an End. 

Post#213 » by CelticsLV » Thu Feb 6, 2020 6:42 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:Coach Brad said we might do something minor.

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Ainge after not making any moves like always...

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Re: The Trade Thread #4: The Fun is Coming to an End. 

Post#214 » by UNCBlue012 » Thu Feb 6, 2020 6:43 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:KOC throwing out Bertans rumors. I think I’d give away the Mil pick and our pick for him. **** it.


I'd go a first and high second in a heartbeat, tbh. But to have two first's as a place to stand is silly. Be fluid with negotiations.
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Re: The Trade Thread #4: The Fun is Coming to an End. 

Post#215 » by SmartWentCrazy » Thu Feb 6, 2020 6:43 pm

djFan71 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:KOC throwing out Bertans rumors. I think I’d give away the Mil pick and our pick for him. **** it.

Step back from the ledge man!


Whos gunna pay him this summer? We gave his bird rights and cap space just seriously dropped due to moves by ATL and MEM
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Re: The Trade Thread #4: The Fun is Coming to an End. 

Post#216 » by zoyathedestroya » Thu Feb 6, 2020 6:43 pm

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Post#217 » by Fencer reregistered » Thu Feb 6, 2020 6:43 pm

Ya know -- now that Memphis' main trades seem to be known, there's a LITTLE more clarity as to the value of this year's Memphis pick.
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Post#218 » by SmartWentCrazy » Thu Feb 6, 2020 6:44 pm

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SmartWentCrazy wrote:KOC throwing out Bertans rumors. I think I’d give away the Mil pick and our pick for him. **** it.


I'd go a first and high second in a heartbeat, tbh. But to have two first's as a place to stand is silly. Be fluid with negotiations.


You really would prefer pick 45 over pick 30 so much that you wouldnt do the deal?
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Re: The Trade Thread #4: The Fun is Coming to an End. 

Post#219 » by zoyathedestroya » Thu Feb 6, 2020 6:44 pm

I miss Afam.
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Re: The Trade Thread #4: The Fun is Coming to an End. 

Post#220 » by cloverleaf » Thu Feb 6, 2020 6:45 pm

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Why take Collins when we have Vincent Porier?

Sorry but it just irks me seeing this team consistently standing pat every single trade deadline.


Who are these Prime Time Sports Talk Guys? Is Weezy Dog texting them from Danny's war room?

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