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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#201 » by Disinformation » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:55 pm

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I am also against it for basketball reasons. But if it brings us karmic cleansing, I'm all for it.


No. Get us some **** size at the point.


I'm pretty sure that if Carsen Edwards carry Tremont Waters on his shoulders, we have a 6'4 point guard.


Seriously. They were going to use a long overcoat to go as Tacko Fall for Halloween this year -- but they weren't tall enough. :lol:
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#202 » by Fencer reregistered » Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:41 am

I don't subscribe to or otherwise get through the paywall at The Athletic, but they seem to think Enes will opt out. Further, they think that if he stays Danny will try to trade him.

https://www.celticsblog.com/2020/10/12/21513832/report-enes-kanter-most-likely-to-opt-out-boston-celtics-nba-free-agency
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#203 » by snowman » Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:12 pm

So, If Kanter opts out, (which I hope he does) and Poirier gets bought out and goes to France (which I also hope he does) Green is let go (don't need him), Wannamaker is allowed to walk (yes please), Semi's option is not picked up (hopefully), then we don't have a roster crunch and can use all 3 first's, and still have 2 roster spots for min salary veterans ? Is there any agreement on this?
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#204 » by BK_2020 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:50 pm

What kind of guys do you think are available at vet min? We are talking about corpses of Marvin Williams or Luc Mbah a Moute. Or maybe Demarcus Cousins will sign with us? There's like 1% chance someone we sign for the vet min will be better than Wanamaker or Semi.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#205 » by Fencer reregistered » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:16 pm

Smitty and colleagues seem pretty unanimous in believing Enes WILL opt-in, although that isn't necessarily a strong belief.

And of course they have lots of opinions on what SHOULD happen otherwise. One idea: Harry Giles with the MLE.

https://www.celticsblog.com/2020/10/13/21507815/celticsblog-offseason-roundtable-setting-the-table-for-the-draft-and-free-agency
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#206 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:28 pm

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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#207 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:31 pm

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GALLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... for the MLE.

Prediction: He'll be a Laker. Everybody will be a Laker or a Heatie now.

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Gallo wants to come to Boston for the MLE sign me up. Gallo would be an awesome big off the bench. Probability of this happening is 1.2%

Gallo will get paid somewhere. Free agent market is bad.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#208 » by JHTruth » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:33 pm

Fencer reregistered wrote:Smitty and colleagues seem pretty unanimous in believing Enes WILL opt-in, although that isn't necessarily a strong belief.

And of course they have lots of opinions on what SHOULD happen otherwise. One idea: Harry Giles with the MLE.

https://www.celticsblog.com/2020/10/13/21507815/celticsblog-offseason-roundtable-setting-the-table-for-the-draft-and-free-agency


Well Enes's goodbye tweet and the fact that he's not disputing these reports whatsoever make it pretty clear to me at least that he gone. Which is the right move for him frankly. Even if he gets the same money, he can probably get a lot more PT somewhere else to earn another multi-year next offseason.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#209 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:40 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
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GALLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... for the MLE.

Prediction: He'll be a Laker. Everybody will be a Laker or a Heatie now.

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Gallo wants to come to Boston for the MLE sign me up. Gallo would be an awesome big off the bench. Probability of this happening is 1.2%

Gallo will get paid somewhere. Free agent market is bad.

Those with cap space that can give him more money aren't competitive. He'll be looking at MLE if he wants to be on a contender. S&T still a possibility but OKC would demand at least a 1st for him and only expiring contracts they could possibly flip.

This isn't me being a Negative Nancy, but Gallo would rather get $4M from LA or Miami than $6.5M from Boston. Both those teams can offer him a bigger scoring role as a starter while he'd be fighting for usage/touches/shots w/ Kemba/Tatum/Brown/(Hayward) if he chooses the Cs.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#210 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:43 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
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GALLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... for the MLE.

Prediction: He'll be a Laker. Everybody will be a Laker or a Heatie now.

Spoiler:
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Gallo wants to come to Boston for the MLE sign me up. Gallo would be an awesome big off the bench. Probability of this happening is 1.2%

Gallo will get paid somewhere. Free agent market is bad.

Those with cap space that can give him more money aren't competitive. He'll be looking at MLE if he wants to be on a contender. S&T still a possibility but OKC would demand at least a 1st for him and only expiring contracts they could possibly flip.

This isn't me being a Negative Nancy, but Gallo would rather get $4M from LA or Miami than $6.5M from Boston. Both those teams can offer him a bigger scoring role as a starter while he'd be fighting for usage/touches/shots w/ Kemba/Tatum/Brown/(Hayward) if he chooses the Cs.

Unless winning a championship is really his priority. I doubt it. First team to offer Gallo $12-15 million per year for 2-3 years gets him.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#211 » by playa-hater » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:50 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:
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GALLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... for the MLE.

Prediction: He'll be a Laker. Everybody will be a Laker or a Heatie now.

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Gallo wants to come to Boston for the MLE sign me up. Gallo would be an awesome big off the bench. Probability of this happening is 1.2%

Gallo will get paid somewhere. Free agent market is bad.


you beat me to it.. damn Gallo would be such a nice fit...find a way to make it happen DANNY!!
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Post#212 » by Fencer reregistered » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:18 pm

I am hopeful Danny has some advantages as a FA recruiter. He's actually won on the court, and played with a broad range of personalities. He's also actually won in his current role. Pat Riley has comparable or greater real-talk credentials. Lakers can always synthesize a similar effect. And obviously both those teams have city/glamor advantages. But that's about it.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#213 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:21 pm

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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#214 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:41 pm

playa-hater wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:
Spoiler:
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GALLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... for the MLE.

Prediction: He'll be a Laker. Everybody will be a Laker or a Heatie now.

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Gallo wants to come to Boston for the MLE sign me up. Gallo would be an awesome big off the bench. Probability of this happening is 1.2%

Gallo will get paid somewhere. Free agent market is bad.


you beat me to it.. damn Gallo would be such a nice fit...find a way to make it happen DANNY!!

At the very least, I think Danny Ainge gets a "sit-down" (via Zoom?) with Danilo and his agent, who coincidentally also represents another Dan (Daniel Theis). We've been linked to Gallinari for the longest time. We've also treated Theis right ever since we recruited him out of Europe. Even with our depth at the wing position, Gallo can still get starter minutes in Boston esp if Hayward is traded.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#215 » by 100proof » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:52 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:
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Celts17Pride wrote:Gallo wants to come to Boston for the MLE sign me up. Gallo would be an awesome big off the bench. Probability of this happening is 1.2%

Gallo will get paid somewhere. Free agent market is bad.


you beat me to it.. damn Gallo would be such a nice fit...find a way to make it happen DANNY!!

At the very least, I think Danny Ainge gets a "sit-down" (via Zoom?) with Danilo and his agent, who coincidentally also represents another Dan (Daniel Theis). We've been linked to Gallinari for the longest time. We've also treated Theis right ever since we recruited him out of Europe. Even with our depth at the wing position, Gallo can still get starter minutes in Boston esp if Hayward is traded.


If Hayward is traded then Gallo is a brilliant add.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#216 » by SmartWentCrazy » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:03 pm

I need rumors. Someone tell me what Robot Dave says.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#217 » by djFan71 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:13 pm

If we're going to commit anything past this year to an oft-injured playmaking SF in their 30s, I'd prefer it be Gordon than Gallo. Or as an illustrious former poster put it more succinctly:

Nooooo Gallllooooo!!!!!!!!!
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Post#218 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:18 pm

djFan71 wrote:If we're going to commit anything past this year to an oft-injured playmaking SF in their 30s, I'd prefer it be Gordon than Gallo. Or more as an illustrious former poster put it more succinctly:

Nooooo Gallllooooo!!!!!!!!!

I'm on record saying I'd give $100M/4 yrs to Hayward (4th year team option; partial guarantee) just to keep him but what if the choice is...

Gordon Hayward at $90M/3 years vs. Danilo Gallinari at $20M/2 years?
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#219 » by djFan71 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:46 pm

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djFan71 wrote:If we're going to commit anything past this year to an oft-injured playmaking SF in their 30s, I'd prefer it be Gordon than Gallo. Or as an illustrious former poster put it more succinctly:

Nooooo Gallllooooo!!!!!!!!!

I'm on record saying I'd give $100M/4 yrs to Hayward (4th year team option; partial guarantee) just to keep him but what if the choice is...

Gordon Hayward at $90M/3 years vs. Danilo Gallinari at $20M/2 years?

I almost added the cost factor and said I still didn't care. I doubt we are paying much more that $20-22M for Gordon starting in '21 (opt in, extend at 3/$60-70M-ish). And I think Gallo is more than MLE - somewhere around $15M S&T to a contender. Ibaka, Favors, Gallo, Dragic, Mook are probably the UFAs getting $ this year via rights, cap or S&T.

For the hypothetical, I'd probably choose C. We can't be paying Gordon $30M in '21. $20M+ is a stretch, but less of one. If he's gone, use full MLE money on somebody else. Depends on what positions we draft and what happens with Kanter, etc on who. Gallo in theory would make sense as one of the options, though.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#220 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:19 pm

djFan71 wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:
djFan71 wrote:If we're going to commit anything past this year to an oft-injured playmaking SF in their 30s, I'd prefer it be Gordon than Gallo. Or as an illustrious former poster put it more succinctly:

Nooooo Gallllooooo!!!!!!!!!

I'm on record saying I'd give $100M/4 yrs to Hayward (4th year team option; partial guarantee) just to keep him but what if the choice is...

Gordon Hayward at $90M/3 years vs. Danilo Gallinari at $20M/2 years?

I almost added the cost factor and said I still didn't care. I doubt we are paying much more that $20-22M for Gordon starting in '21 (opt in, extend at 3/$60-70M-ish). And I think Gallo is more than MLE - somewhere around $15M S&T to a contender. Ibaka, Favors, Gallo, Dragic, Mook are probably the UFAs getting $ this year via rights, cap or S&T.

For the hypothetical, I'd probably choose C. We can't be paying Gordon $30M in '21. $20M+ is a stretch, but less of one. If he's gone, use full MLE money on somebody else. Depends on what positions we draft and what happens with Kanter, etc on who. Gallo in theory would make sense as one of the options, though.

If Gordo can go as low as $20M per year then even better. No brainer for me. I just think Gallo at full MLE is a suitable replacement if we move on from Hayward.

But you're right, some contender might cough up a 2nd (or even 1st) and an expiring for an S&T'd Gallo.
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