2025 NBA Draft Thread (pt 3)

[return2glory]

The common theme with all 3 of Boston's picks is that all 3 players bring toughness. That's something this team lacks.

[themoneyteam2]

That's not rocket science. The nets had no reason to move those picks until draft night. They're not giving them away to take on a salary dump.

But you can't fix stupid and a team that picks 5 times in the first round, including 4 guards is not working with a full deck.

I couldn't respond to it because I got banned and the thread was closed.

Is this a fancy way of saying you were wrong and that the Celtics didn't trade for their picks and they made 5 picks?

I mean. What's your point?

The Celtics didn't make any moves. Its not as much that I'm wrong. It means the Celtics punted.

They weren't interested in improving the team.

Tank it is. Fine by me. I'll be here all season as I always am and you'll come and go like the rest of them.

"The Celtics will trade for one of the Nets first round picks.

Count on it.

No way the nets keep 5 first round picks."

So you were wrong? You can't even admit when you make an incorrect prediction lol, and somehow spin it to "it's not the I'm wrong but rather the Celtics punted and didn't want to improve the team".

Hilarious stuff

[The Corey's]

Is this a fancy way of saying you were wrong and that the Celtics didn't trade for their picks and they made 5 picks?

I mean. What's your point?

The Celtics didn't make any moves. Its not as much that I'm wrong. It means the Celtics punted.

They weren't interested in improving the team.

Tank it is. Fine by me. I'll be here all season as I always am and you'll come and go like the rest of them.

"The Celtics will trade for one of the Nets first round picks.

Count on it.

No way the nets keep 5 first round picks."

So you were wrong? You can't even admit when you make an incorrect prediction lol, and somehow spin it to "it's not the I'm wrong but rather the Celtics punted and didn't want to improve the team".

Hilarious stuff

Listen pal. I'm more than capable of handling you and sitting you down like the petulant child you are but bisme already banned me for responding to your targeted harassment.

That's 3 days in a row you've tried to provoke and bait me and you would of thought after yesterday warnings from the mods you would of learned you lesson but clearly you have not.

But we're all tired of you derailing the threads. Take it to PM if you wanna keep obsessing over me. It got weird really quick and I think everyone would be happier if you stopped hanging on my every word.

In the meantime, perhaps the mods are going to finally send you to timeout as it's clear you're obsession with me has grown out of control.

Be mad at the Celtics for not trading up in the draft after spending all day telling their mouth pieces that's what they planned on doing.

[themoneyteam2]

I mean. What's your point?

The Celtics didn't make any moves. Its not as much that I'm wrong. It means the Celtics punted.

They weren't interested in improving the team.

Tank it is. Fine by me. I'll be here all season as I always am and you'll come and go like the rest of them.

"The Celtics will trade for one of the Nets first round picks.

Count on it.

No way the nets keep 5 first round picks."

So you were wrong? You can't even admit when you make an incorrect prediction lol, and somehow spin it to "it's not the I'm wrong but rather the Celtics punted and didn't want to improve the team".

Hilarious stuff

Listen pal. I'm more than capable of handling you and sitting you down like the petulant child you are but bisme already banned me for responding to your targeted harassment.

That's 3 days in a row you've tried to provoke and bait me and you would of thought after yesterday warnings from the mods you would of learned you lesson but clearly you have not.

But we're all tired of you derailing the threads. Take it to PM if you wanna keep obsessing over me. It got weird really quick and I think everyone would be happier if you stopped hanging on my every word.

In the meantime, perhaps the mods are going to finally send you to timeout as it's clear you're obsession with me has grown out of control.

Be mad at the Celtics for not trading up in the draft after spending all day telling their mouth pieces that's what they planned on doing.

No obsession. Don't flatter yourself. Just saw your post when another poster quoted your post and you couldn't admit it was a wrong prediction.

We all make wrong predictions. Don't worry about it. Just an odd way of handling it.

But please keep calling me names and a petulant child and trying to be a backseat mod!

[winsomme2]

If Hugo turns into an Alex Caruso type is that a good result?

Tough nosed defender, PG skills in a big frame, attacks the basket and makes shots when needed…

[themoneyteam2]

If Hugo turns into an Alex Caruso type is that a good result?

Tough nosed defender, PG skills in a big frame, attacks the basket and makes shots when needed…

Obviously yes?

[fallguy]

If Hugo turns into an Alex Caruso type is that a good result?

Tough nosed defender, PG skills in a big frame, attacks the basket and makes shots when needed…

That would be a home run result.

[redslastlaugh]

Yea, for sure. I think I was just grumpy after the draft. After sleeping on it, I kind of like our draft. Hugo, Amari, 2 future second round picks, and a deep flier on Max Shulga, sure. And, like you said, the value that we got on getting minimum FAs or cast off FAs or UDFAs (Luke, Queta, Sam) is like the return we want from picks in the 30s.

One really interesting thing is it seems like #28 was a choice between Hugo and Rasheer. Therefore the careers of Hugo Gonzalez vs Rasheer Fleming will something to follow going forward. If one guy is really good and one guy is a bust, we'll be hearing about it (if we won or lost) for a very long time, lol
 

Yeah, that's fair - I was more responding to the list of stars. There are probably a few contributors each year on average from round 2. I'm actually overly a fan of early 30s 2nd rounders, myself. Wanted Mitchell last year, Claxton previously, etc. On the other hand I've lusted after Paul Reed, and Tillman (funnily enough), and then so many nameless D without 3 forwards as well that never panned out.

I think OKC's roster is a) not fair, b) probably spotlights their players to look better than they would be on other teams. But, yeah, they've done a good job. With a lot of at-bats.

I also think we have done a good job with 2nds and low level UDFAs or trades using 2nds in the Brad era. Hauser, Luke and Queta all came that way. JD and Walsh probably get their (last) shot next year as well.

Mainly, I guess there's more than one way to skin a cat. If the draft team didn't value anyone 32 or later high enough, they made a great trade to get more assets that can be helpful down the road - possibly in the next few months. If they're wrong and Penda, Raynaud, etc become studs, they messed up.

As for Fleming, if it's true we wanted him and gambled he'd be there at 32 because we liked Hugo more, that's fine by me as well. You can only draft 1 guy with your first pick, so you gotta make tough choices. No matter how tantalizing the wingspan.

[Dogen]

If Williams and Shulga both get two ways, which is still tbd, there's only one two way left for Norris, Peterson, or someone else.

Assume it is Petersen if they trade Hauser.

With the additions of Scheierman and Gonzalez, I'd give the nod to Norris. He showed some signs of being able to make the threes, plus has some athleticism and size to defend both the perimeter and interior.

[playa-hater]

For the record. I like Adou Thiero if we are going the route of taking a wing player. There doesn't seem to be anything about his game. That isn't almost the same as Amen. Thompson.. And if anything he shows more shooting promise than amen thompson.

[winsomme2]

If Hugo turns into an Alex Caruso type is that a good result?

Tough nosed defender, PG skills in a big frame, attacks the basket and makes shots when needed…

Obviously yes?

The reason I ask is because Caruso’s career stats are underwhelming but most would want a guy like him on their team.

And it does seem like Hugo already has some of these traits.

I really hope he plays summer league.

[djFan71]

Yea, for sure. I think I was just grumpy after the draft. After sleeping on it, I kind of like our draft. Hugo, Amari, 2 future second round picks, and a deep flier on Max Shulga, sure. And, like you said, the value that we got on getting minimum FAs or cast off FAs or UDFAs (Luke, Queta, Sam) is like the return we want from picks in the 30s.

One really interesting thing is it seems like #28 was a choice between Hugo and Rasheer. Therefore the careers of Hugo Gonzalez vs Rasheer Fleming will something to follow going forward. If one guy is really good and one guy is a bust, we'll be hearing about it (if we won or lost) for a very long time, lol
 

Yeah, that's fair - I was more responding to the list of stars. There are probably a few contributors each year on average from round 2. I'm actually overly a fan of early 30s 2nd rounders, myself. Wanted Mitchell last year, Claxton previously, etc. On the other hand I've lusted after Paul Reed, and Tillman (funnily enough), and then so many nameless D without 3 forwards as well that never panned out.

I think OKC's roster is a) not fair, b) probably spotlights their players to look better than they would be on other teams. But, yeah, they've done a good job. With a lot of at-bats.

I also think we have done a good job with 2nds and low level UDFAs or trades using 2nds in the Brad era. Hauser, Luke and Queta all came that way. JD and Walsh probably get their (last) shot next year as well.

Mainly, I guess there's more than one way to skin a cat. If the draft team didn't value anyone 32 or later high enough, they made a great trade to get more assets that can be helpful down the road - possibly in the next few months. If they're wrong and Penda, Raynaud, etc become studs, they messed up.

As for Fleming, if it's true we wanted him and gambled he'd be there at 32 because we liked Hugo more, that's fine by me as well. You can only draft 1 guy with your first pick, so you gotta make tough choices. No matter how tantalizing the wingspan.

I feel ya on the grumpy. My post was basically me rationalizing, lol.

[Dogen]

I'd like to see Scheierman and Gonzalez become BFF's by end of summer league. It looks like they can be similar, yet complimentary, players.

Add Williams and Shulga to the mix and there's the opportunity to these guys to bond and start building an identity with ball movement: cutting, passing, screening, shooting.

Williams is particularly intriguing here. I wasn't so smitten with the pick last night, but with his passing ability and size he's going to be able to play top of the key on offense, hitting cutters like Baylor and Hugo. Those guys then have passing skills to move to ball back out to the corner threes (Max?), with Amari rotating inside for offensive boards.

I'm not saying these guys are that great or it will all come together by October, but it does seem that Brad made choices based on roster construction and team identity/strategy rather than just picking BPA or moving up to get the better all-around talent. Our second rounders will be fine if they can provide one or two solid roles while Brad reconstructs the roster for JT's return.

[Dogen]

Max Shulga might be the most un-basketball sounding name I’ve ever heard.

Wait until you see his shulg and bake move!

I’m intrigued. Dude sounds like he should’ve been a prizefighter from the 1910s or something.

Max "Baby Face" Shulga

[Hal14]

If Williams and Shulga both get two ways, which is still tbd, there's only one two way left for Norris, Peterson, or someone else.

Assume it is Petersen if they trade Hauser.

With the additions of Scheierman and Gonzalez, I'd give the nod to Norris. He showed some signs of being able to make the threes, plus has some athleticism and size to defend both the perimeter and interior.

And Norris is under contract for next season, on a 2-way. Peterson is not - he's a RFA..

[phincsfan]

If Hugo turns into an Alex Caruso type is that a good result?

Tough nosed defender, PG skills in a big frame, attacks the basket and makes shots when needed…

I don't think he has a major problem shooting, I think he hasn't got enough reps and he doesn't seem to want to shoot. I think shooting is something he can easily develop, something that is almost impossible to develop at his age is getting to the basket comfortably. You either can or you can't. I like the fact that his game is from the inside out, except it hasn't been outside. He has the tools to drive and pull up, step back shot and a catch and shoot. They just need to give him tons of reps doing it.

I say he can be much better than Caruso.

[Kalela]

If Hugo turns into an Alex Caruso type is that a good result?

Tough nosed defender, PG skills in a big frame, attacks the basket and makes shots when needed…

Hell yes. Have you seen Caruso in the finals? He can't miss from three. lol As long as he is not injury prone like Caruso has been with the Bulls.

[jfs1000d]

Another Brad Stevens masterclass of **** at drafting.

I think we got three players on the roster. wtf more you want?


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[jfs1000d]

I can get behind the Hugo pick but I’m baffled by trading down from 32 when there were good players available. Maybe we wanted Flemming and when he was gone Brad said F it.I know getting extra second round picks is great but overall zi’m really disappointed in our draft

Hi second rounders want guaranteed deals. Players after 45 typically will take 2 ways.


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[jfs1000d]

So if Hugo flames out and Fleming turns into a rotational player. Does Brad finally start to get some criticism on his drafting?

And what happens if they both suck?


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