Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20

[GoCeltics123]

The Gordon Hayward era in Boston just hasn't quite worked out for reasons beyond control. Sometimes you just need to look yourself in the mirror and move on. Hayward signed in Boston to be their best all-around player complimenting Horford, IT, and the emerging young cast that featured Jaylen Brown and then Rookie Jayson Tatum. Then the Kyrie deal happened.....then the injury happened and everything changed. EVERYTHING. Tatum/Brown have since emerged. This just isn't the same team anymore. Hayward is sorta the odd man out....is he good? yes. Can it work? probably. But he's had a tough few years here. Has anyone ever considered that maybe Gordon Hayward would be super receptive to a fresh start elsewhere? I keep thinking about Indiana. Hayward is from Indiana....He could be dealt there in a package that could make sense for Boston....Hayward could opt out and sign a long-term deal to finish out career at home....plus Indy would be good. not a bad situation from GH after a rough go of it in Boston

Here is my fear, at least for this season - if we trade Hayward, who is going to be the playmaker on this team? Who is going to create shots for others besides Marcus Smart? It can't be Tatum, because he dribbles too much. It can't be Brown, because it's an adventure when he bounces that ball more than 3 times, and it can't be Kemba, because he is primarily a scorer. Even if we were to deal Hayward for, say, a guy like Myles Turner, then we now have a "Your turn, my turn" offense again. I wouldn't mind making a trade over the summer, because I think Tremont Waters will be a fine backup next year, but right now, in the middle of the season? No thanks, unless we've got another deal lined up for a playmaker.

Bradley Beal when we trade Jaylen for him this summer.

OMG **** no. Sorry SWC your ideas are good but not this one IMO

The fit with Beal/Kemba is absolutely atrocious. You're just replicating Dame/CJ with even worse defense.

[100proof]

Here is my fear, at least for this season - if we trade Hayward, who is going to be the playmaker on this team? Who is going to create shots for others besides Marcus Smart? It can't be Tatum, because he dribbles too much. It can't be Brown, because it's an adventure when he bounces that ball more than 3 times, and it can't be Kemba, because he is primarily a scorer. Even if we were to deal Hayward for, say, a guy like Myles Turner, then we now have a "Your turn, my turn" offense again. I wouldn't mind making a trade over the summer, because I think Tremont Waters will be a fine backup next year, but right now, in the middle of the season? No thanks, unless we've got another deal lined up for a playmaker.

Here is a novel thought. How about utilizing one of the fastest guards in the league in a pick and role where he is primary distributor.

Offense like the raptors for example.

Kemba Walker runs pick and roll more often than anyone on the Raptors. He's 8th in the NBA in PnR ballhandler possessions per game. I have no idea why teams don't spam PnR more often unless the three other guys on the court would just be crying or something. Just run PnR every possession and you would win like 80 games.

I know! And someone like tatum and brown can even be the screener.

Ideally i would like brown hih pick and rolls with kemba and tatum ready to catch and release or drive on those possessions. Team imo would be lethal utilizing the speed, shooting, slashing and postup ability of those 3 guys.

But stevens gotta run his college offense.

[MagicBagley18]

The Gordon Hayward era in Boston just hasn't quite worked out for reasons beyond control. Sometimes you just need to look yourself in the mirror and move on. Hayward signed in Boston to be their best all-around player complimenting Horford, IT, and the emerging young cast that featured Jaylen Brown and then Rookie Jayson Tatum. Then the Kyrie deal happened.....then the injury happened and everything changed. EVERYTHING. Tatum/Brown have since emerged. This just isn't the same team anymore. Hayward is sorta the odd man out....is he good? yes. Can it work? probably. But he's had a tough few years here. Has anyone ever considered that maybe Gordon Hayward would be super receptive to a fresh start elsewhere? I keep thinking about Indiana. Hayward is from Indiana....He could be dealt there in a package that could make sense for Boston....Hayward could opt out and sign a long-term deal to finish out career at home....plus Indy would be good. not a bad situation from GH after a rough go of it in Boston

Here is my fear, at least for this season - if we trade Hayward, who is going to be the playmaker on this team? Who is going to create shots for others besides Marcus Smart? It can't be Tatum, because he dribbles too much. It can't be Brown, because it's an adventure when he bounces that ball more than 3 times, and it can't be Kemba, because he is primarily a scorer. Even if we were to deal Hayward for, say, a guy like Myles Turner, then we now have a "Your turn, my turn" offense again. I wouldn't mind making a trade over the summer, because I think Tremont Waters will be a fine backup next year, but right now, in the middle of the season? No thanks, unless we've got another deal lined up for a playmaker.

Bradley Beal when we trade Jaylen for him this summer.

Haha u know I’m down but I predict Beal to warriors for their pick and Russell....super splash brothers curry Beal Klay

[ddb]

Since we are all making assumptions, how about this? Hayward doesn't want to uproot his family and resigns on a much friendlier team deal in the off season like we expected Horford to do last season

Nobody is trading for a guy who has a player option next season

this is entirely wrong. A lot of teams would be VERY interested in that. Teams looking to unload a large salary or two and bottom out would absolutely love Gordon Hayward...if it were Cleveland for example (I'm not advocating for this BTW) the Cavs would be absolutely thrilled to unload Love and/or other cap his.....bring in Hayward....then either flip him later, sign him long-term if it's a good fit, or let him walk. either way they just uploaded major $$ and can now build through the draft and free agency.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

The Gordon Hayward era in Boston just hasn't quite worked out for reasons beyond control. Sometimes you just need to look yourself in the mirror and move on. Hayward signed in Boston to be their best all-around player complimenting Horford, IT, and the emerging young cast that featured Jaylen Brown and then Rookie Jayson Tatum. Then the Kyrie deal happened.....then the injury happened and everything changed. EVERYTHING. Tatum/Brown have since emerged. This just isn't the same team anymore. Hayward is sorta the odd man out....is he good? yes. Can it work? probably. But he's had a tough few years here. Has anyone ever considered that maybe Gordon Hayward would be super receptive to a fresh start elsewhere? I keep thinking about Indiana. Hayward is from Indiana....He could be dealt there in a package that could make sense for Boston....Hayward could opt out and sign a long-term deal to finish out career at home....plus Indy would be good. not a bad situation from GH after a rough go of it in Boston

Here is my fear, at least for this season - if we trade Hayward, who is going to be the playmaker on this team? Who is going to create shots for others besides Marcus Smart? It can't be Tatum, because he dribbles too much. It can't be Brown, because it's an adventure when he bounces that ball more than 3 times, and it can't be Kemba, because he is primarily a scorer. Even if we were to deal Hayward for, say, a guy like Myles Turner, then we now have a "Your turn, my turn" offense again. I wouldn't mind making a trade over the summer, because I think Tremont Waters will be a fine backup next year, but right now, in the middle of the season? No thanks, unless we've got another deal lined up for a playmaker.

Here is a novel thought. How about utilizing one of the fastest guards in the league in a pick and role where he is primary distributor.

Offense like the raptors for example.

Who's our roll guy? Timelord might develop into that one day, but other than that, there is no one on the roster who can be a consistent threat rolling to the hoop.

[ddb]

I'm all for handing the keys over to JT/JB. I think they can be a special duo for the next decade if Ainge surrounds them with the right pieces.

[GoCeltics123]

I'm all for handing the keys over to JT/JB. I think they can be a special duo for the next decade if Ainge surrounds them with the right pieces.

Who would you trade Hayward for? That's the issue.

[djFan71]

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