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Re: Official BKN-DAL-MIN pick watch Thread 2015-16 season 

Post#221 » by Slartibartfast » Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:21 pm

Fischella wrote:That 12/13 was worse if you take into accout that we were without Dirk for stetches and that he was out of shape, is all hypothetical but if Matthews and Parsosn are more or less healthy, this roster is much more powerful.
Also, you undervaluate Williams and Pachulia, both are the type of guys that will thrive next to Carlisle, is just the type of vets he likes.
I am not saying we will win +45 games, but the team will remain competitive an likely finish anywhere from 8-10, unless there are many and major injuries.
The competitin is not strong anyway, NOLA should be above us just because of Davis but the rest of their roster is crap, Phoenix and Sacrmento have talent but they are teams inconstant turmoil and the Jazz just lost Exum, still they should be better than us by a respectable margin though.

I think Dallas will start around 50%, we have rusty players, but Dirk is playing the Eurobasket so he should come in good shape and the schedule is fairly easy.
Anyway Dallas situation is perfect for you guys, if we were truly bad you will not snatch that pick,right now you are looking at a 12-14 lotto selection, not bad.


I think Williams and Pachulia will work nicely with the Mavs offensively, but with Dirk collapsing as a defensive player they really need to shore up their defense. D-Will and Zaza don't do that. I also don't think D-Will can replicate Ellis' role - he's not much of a slasher anymore. Much closer to Collison than Ellis.

And full health for Matthews fresh off the achilles tear is not likely. Very devastating injury. I think Wes will still be able to shoot, but I expect him to be a defensive liability for awhile and not much help as a creator. Parsons is anyone's guess.

I think the Mavs are more likely to be in the 8-10 range, which is why I fear a late season tank.
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Re: Official BKN-DAL-MIN pick watch Thread 2015-16 season 

Post#222 » by rickrolled » Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:44 pm

Been watching some afrobasket lately, Dallas picked up the tunisan 7 footer, Salah Mejri who won the euroleague and ACB with real madrid. He's going to be really good for them or for some NBA team, if Dallas end up waiving him, signed a guaranteed contract.
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Re: Official BKN-DAL-MIN pick watch Thread 2015-16 season 

Post#223 » by truth18 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:09 pm

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqnwdRMFn6U[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV8qjbgVoG4#t=181[/youtube]
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Post#224 » by rickrolled » Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:51 am

truth18 wrote:
Spoiler:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqnwdRMFn6U[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV8qjbgVoG4#t=181[/youtube]

don't agree with the comparison, mejri is a shotblocker and rebounder, bargnani is neither. bargnani is the better talent on offense though.
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Re: Official BKN-DAL-MIN pick watch Thread 2015-16 season 

Post#225 » by 165bows » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:16 am

So celtics are slated to own picks in the ranges of:

#8 (BRK)
#13 (DAL)
#17 (BOS)
#32 (PHI)
#33 (MIN)
#43 (DAL)
#46 (MIA)
#58 (CLE)
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Post#226 » by KGboss » Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:20 pm

165bows wrote:So celtics are slated to own picks in the ranges of:

#8 (BRK)
#13 (DAL)
#17 (BOS)
#32 (PHI)
#33 (MIN)
#43 (DAL)
#46 (MIA)
#58 (CLE)


And they will trade at least 3/4ths of those picks before the draft most likely anyway, or on draft night.
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Post#227 » by 165bows » Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:18 pm

Yup. Just like we said last season lol.
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Post#228 » by ArlingtonCeltic » Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:44 pm

Could Danny compensate Brooklyn for getting worse this year? Brooklyn would like to dump Johnson's contract for assets rather than just wait for his contract to expire, but it's hard for other teams to swallow the salary. So what if soon after December 15 Danny packaged Lee and Jerebko (both for salary purposes) along with James Young and the following picks:

    Minn. 2016 1st (or Minn. 2016 & 2017 2nd rounders);
    DAL 2016 2nd-rounder;
    LAC 2017 2nd-rounder;
    and Mem 2018 1st-rounder
in return for Joe Johnson and Wayne Ellington?

Brooklyn probably doesn't want to revisit the PP-KG deal, but Danny could provide rolls of the dice to a team with no real draft picks going forward. Plus I'm thinking Brooklyn's young wings (Bogdanovic, Kerasev, Young) wouldn't compensate very well for Johnson's absence--at least in 2016 with Ellington also coming to Boston.
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Post#229 » by Slartibartfast » Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:17 pm

ArlingtonCeltic wrote:Could Danny compensate Brooklyn for getting worse this year? Brooklyn would like to dump Johnson's contract for assets rather than just wait for his contract to expire, but it's hard for other teams to swallow the salary. So what if soon after December 15 Danny packaged Lee and Jerebko (both for salary purposes) along with James Young and the following picks:

    Minn. 2016 1st (or Minn. 2016 & 2017 2nd rounders);
    DAL 2016 2nd-rounder;
    LAC 2017 2nd-rounder;
    and Mem 2018 1st-rounder
in return for Joe Johnson and Wayne Ellington?

Brooklyn probably doesn't want to revisit the PP-KG deal, but Danny could provide rolls of the dice to a team with no real draft picks going forward. Plus I'm thinking Brooklyn's young wings (Bogdanovic, Kerasev, Young) wouldn't compensate very well for Johnson's absence--at least in 2016 with Ellington also coming to Boston.


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Post#230 » by 165bows » Thu Sep 3, 2015 1:52 am

First page looks like the mall at closing time right now - half locked up.

Notes about Chandler Parsons:

@espn_macmahon: Chandler Parsons has added 1-dribble pull-ups to shooting routine. Has also been doing heavy lifting with his surgically repaired leg.


@espn_macmahon: Parsons hasn't started running/cutting yet but should soon. Hope is still to be ready for season opener, but no guarantees.
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Post#231 » by 165bows » Thu Sep 3, 2015 11:59 am

Russian billionaire Mikhail Prokhorov is nearing a deal to buy all of the Barclays Center and the Brooklyn Nets from Bruce Ratner’s Forest City Enterprises, The Post has learned.

Prokhorov has been in talks to buy the 55 percent of the arena and 20 percent of the NBA team he does not already own. Under the deal being discussed, he would kick in little cash beyond forgiving the roughly $40 million Forest City owes him to cover team losses, according to two sources familiar with the situation.

Onexim Group, Prokhorov’s investment vehicle, earlier extended until Sept. 8 a deadline for when Forest City needs to pony up roughly $15 million to cover its share of the Nets’ losses for the 2015-16 season. That’s on top of the $25 million it owes for last season.


Prokhorov didn’t make that sale process any easier by withholding financial information, according to sources close to the sale process.


http://nypost.com/2015/09/03/prokhorov-nears-deal-to-buy-all-of-barclays-center-nets/
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Post#232 » by 2Mas » Thu Sep 3, 2015 2:35 pm

165bows wrote:First page looks like the mall at closing time right now - half locked up.

Notes about Chandler Parsons:

@espn_macmahon: Chandler Parsons has added 1-dribble pull-ups to shooting routine. Has also been doing heavy lifting with his surgically repaired leg.


@espn_macmahon: Parsons hasn't started running/cutting yet but should soon. Hope is still to be ready for season opener, but no guarantees.

He is legit the only one that can drive & kick the ball.

You guys are in for a serious disappointment with that Dallas pick cause we're not getting it. Their starting line up is decent. Very injury prone & unathletic though. Dwill, Wes, Dirk, Zaza all not athletic. Unless McGee returns to somewhat normal, they're gonna struggle with athleticism.

Yo they're adequate if they all stay healthy & all come back & have great years. My moneys on that that doesn't happen. I got them straight up 13th in the conference due to a nosedive cause Cuban's gonna wanna keep that pick.
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Post#233 » by 165bows » Thu Sep 3, 2015 6:36 pm

2Mas wrote:
165bows wrote:First page looks like the mall at closing time right now - half locked up.

Notes about Chandler Parsons:

@espn_macmahon: Chandler Parsons has added 1-dribble pull-ups to shooting routine. Has also been doing heavy lifting with his surgically repaired leg.


@espn_macmahon: Parsons hasn't started running/cutting yet but should soon. Hope is still to be ready for season opener, but no guarantees.

He is legit the only one that can drive & kick the ball.

You guys are in for a serious disappointment with that Dallas pick cause we're not getting it. Their starting line up is decent. Very injury prone & unathletic though. Dwill, Wes, Dirk, Zaza all not athletic. Unless McGee returns to somewhat normal, they're gonna struggle with athleticism.

Yo they're adequate if they all stay healthy & all come back & have great years. My moneys on that that doesn't happen. I got them straight up 13th in the conference due to a nosedive cause Cuban's gonna wanna keep that pick.

Yeah that's the thing with that pick, they can pick and choose their direction mid-season. If it's not going well, sit everyone with any boo-boos and head for the bottom. Still will be hard to markedly improve the following year though as Dirk is going to just keep getting older and older. So if the '17 draft is going to be bonkers, well then just get an extra lotto pick then.
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Post#234 » by Slartibartfast » Thu Sep 3, 2015 9:19 pm

2Mas wrote:
165bows wrote:First page looks like the mall at closing time right now - half locked up.

Notes about Chandler Parsons:

@espn_macmahon: Chandler Parsons has added 1-dribble pull-ups to shooting routine. Has also been doing heavy lifting with his surgically repaired leg.


@espn_macmahon: Parsons hasn't started running/cutting yet but should soon. Hope is still to be ready for season opener, but no guarantees.

He is legit the only one that can drive & kick the ball.

You guys are in for a serious disappointment with that Dallas pick cause we're not getting it. Their starting line up is decent. Very injury prone & unathletic though. Dwill, Wes, Dirk, Zaza all not athletic. Unless McGee returns to somewhat normal, they're gonna struggle with athleticism.

Yo they're adequate if they all stay healthy & all come back & have great years. My moneys on that that doesn't happen. I got them straight up 13th in the conference due to a nosedive cause Cuban's gonna wanna keep that pick.


The question is are there 7 teams significantly worse than them. Philly, NYK, Denver, Portland, LAL and Brooklyn are going to be pretty bad. Maybe Detroit, Sacramento and Orlando too. Assuming Parsons is healthy enough to play most of the season, Dirk-Parsons-D-Will gives them a very solid offensive foundation. Carlisle's a good coach. They should have the goods to squeeze out 35+ wins if they punch it.

But they really should tank. Rest up Wes and Parsons for the year. Keep Dirk's minutes low. Add a top-notch asset to nurture for the post-Dirk era.
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Post#235 » by truth18 » Thu Sep 3, 2015 9:26 pm

rickrolled wrote:
truth18 wrote:
Spoiler:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqnwdRMFn6U[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV8qjbgVoG4#t=181[/youtube]

don't agree with the comparison, mejri is a shotblocker and rebounder, bargnani is neither. bargnani is the better talent on offense though.


What comparison? I was just posting clips of Barg's recent play over the summer. Looks alright but I think he'll be a pretty bad NBA player again. Lots of rust despite putting up decent numbers.

Honestly didn't even see that post of your's above. I'll check the vids out now.
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Post#236 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Sep 8, 2015 10:00 am

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Post#237 » by 165bows » Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:51 am

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Who will be fighting for the #1 pick in the 2016 draft?
Kevin Pelton 2:22 PM ET
The Sixers and teams that traded their draft pick (Lakers, Knicks, Nets).

Hat tip to Constable. From Kevin Pelton's chat. Apparently ESPN is canning the chat function I found out as well.

More of the 'Nets are terrible' love out there.

http://m.espn.go.com/general/chat/chat?eventId=51960&page=1
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Post#238 » by 165bows » Mon Sep 14, 2015 3:36 am

David ‘Dubi’ Pick: Andrea Bargnani has a “muscle problem”, said Italian coach. His condition on future: “unknown”. – via Twitter IAmDPick


Nets Daily: Italian medical team to evaluate @Andrea Bargnani Monday. Italy plays Lithuania in Wednesday night’s FIBA quarter finals in Lille, France. – via Twitter NetsDaily


Mike Mazzeo: #Nets Bojan Bogdanovic’s Croatian team was eliminated from EuroBasket. In tourney he had concussion, ankle injury and shot 4-for-24 from 3. – via Twitter MazzESPN
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Post#239 » by Slartibartfast » Mon Sep 14, 2015 5:16 am

We've got to root for Andrea to be healthy enough to play as many minutes as are available.
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Post#240 » by 165bows » Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:12 pm

Slartibartfast wrote:We've got to root for Andrea to be healthy enough to play as many minutes as are available.


Here is a nice piece using some of the new SportVue data, looking at spacing created by different lineups. Not a ton here beyond a few examples and laying out the concept, but one of the Lopez-Young-Johnson lineups ends up bottom five in terms of total offensive spacing.

Here are the bottom 5 lineups (with the lowest first):

Wizards: John Wall, Garrett Temple, Paul Pierce, Nene Hilario, Marcin Gortat
Timberwolves: Ricky Rubio, Kevin Martin, Andrew Wiggins, Thaddeus Young, Nikola Pekovic
Nets: Deron Williams, Joe Johnson, Markel Brown, Thaddeus Young, Brook Lopez
Pistons: Brandon Jennings, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Kyle Singler, Greg Monroe, Andre Drummond
Hornets: Kemba Walker, Gerald Henderson, Lance Stephenson, Cody Zeller, Al Jefferson


http://www.basketballanalyticsbook.com/2015/09/14/preliminary-investigation-into-defensive-stretch/

Though I'm sure it's a function of not only shooting but how much a team with an interior scorer can drag people inside for offensive shots.

Does also note the obvious in how poor a floor spacer Shane Larking is. I think they actually see a good amount of Donald Sloan at PG is my guess.

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