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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#221 » by big-shot-ROB » Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:58 pm

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darylbe wrote:Looks like the sell off has come to a close. Don't count on any of these picks amounting to anything but rubbish

No draft pick is rubbish. They landed Williams at 27, Rozier at 16, Semi in the second round and on and on and on. Cheap cost controlled talent is essential when you have 3 max contracts like we do. I can honestly see them using all 4 picks this year if no AD deal is struck


4 1ST ROUND rookies salaries of unproven talent amount to some quite **** for a contending team like Boston.

Let's not act as every 15 pick is Rozier and not Cam Payne or Mitch McGary or Henry Ellenson.

Do we need to go back to 2016?
Yabusele, Zizic, Bentil and Jackson.
Edit: Oh, and Nader lol.

Not better talent than what you'll fins in 20+ picks if teams pick wisely and don't let players like Simi Sittu, Culver, Horton Tucker and others slide.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#222 » by Homerclease » Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:03 pm

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darylbe wrote:Looks like the sell off has come to a close. Don't count on any of these picks amounting to anything but rubbish

No draft pick is rubbish. They landed Williams at 27, Rozier at 16, Semi in the second round and on and on and on. Cheap cost controlled talent is essential when you have 3 max contracts like we do. I can honestly see them using all 4 picks this year if no AD deal is struck


4 1ST ROUND rookies salaries of unproven talent amount to some quite **** for a contending team like Boston.

Let's not act as every 15 pick is Rozier and not Cam Payne or Mitch McGary or Henry Ellenson.

Do we need to go back to 2016?
Yabusele, Zizic, Bentil and Jackson.
Edit: Oh, and Nader lol.

Not better talent than what you'll fins in 20+ picks if teams pick wisely and don't let players like Simi Sittu, Culver, Horton Tucker and others slide.

It’s a tough pill to swallow but they are gonna need the bodies. Theis, Morris and Rozier are all due up for deals. Yabu is a bust and Jabari Bird flew off the deep end. It’s not ideal no, but they still run 9 deep before relying on a rookie to crack the rotation.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#223 » by JHTruth » Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:41 pm

Homerclease wrote:
big-shot-ROB wrote:
Homerclease wrote:No draft pick is rubbish. They landed Williams at 27, Rozier at 16, Semi in the second round and on and on and on. Cheap cost controlled talent is essential when you have 3 max contracts like we do. I can honestly see them using all 4 picks this year if no AD deal is struck


4 1ST ROUND rookies salaries of unproven talent amount to some quite **** for a contending team like Boston.

Let's not act as every 15 pick is Rozier and not Cam Payne or Mitch McGary or Henry Ellenson.

Do we need to go back to 2016?
Yabusele, Zizic, Bentil and Jackson.
Edit: Oh, and Nader lol.

Not better talent than what you'll fins in 20+ picks if teams pick wisely and don't let players like Simi Sittu, Culver, Horton Tucker and others slide.

It’s a tough pill to swallow but they are gonna need the bodies. Theis, Morris and Rozier are all due up for deals. Yabu is a bust and Jabari Bird flew off the deep end. It’s not ideal no, but they still run 9 deep before relying on a rookie to crack the rotation.


They'll probably make at least three of these picks. Even Austin Ainge said in an interview that they will need to replace these guys due up for large paydays.

BSJ: You guys have up to four first round picks for the 2019 NBA Draft, yet the general consensus by experts on that draft is that the class is far weaker than this past year. How much weight does that really carry 12 months ahead of the draft?

Ainge: Very little. I’ve seen a lot of the top high school kids for next year’s draft and obviously, all of the returning guys in college and I think it has a chance to be great. Our team is going to get expensive as free agents come up. We’re going to need to draft guys on rookie contracts that can contribute. That’s what we’re going to need. We’re really excited about those draft picks to try to keep the talent pool flowing.


https://www.bostonsportsjournal.com/2018/07/10/bsj-exclusive-austin-ainge-opens-robert-williams-2019-draft-class-celtics-offseason-plans/

My guess is we'll grab a couple bigs like Shittu, Hayes, etc and take one of Jones or Garland. Just sort of mu gut. Maybe a guy like Samanic to stash..
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#224 » by big-shot-ROB » Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:52 pm

If we land Garland and Simi with 2 of our 4 picks we can basically trade the other 2 for 1 second, for all I care lol. hahaha
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#225 » by Homerclease » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:07 pm

big-shot-ROB wrote:If we land Garland and Simi with 2 of our 4 picks we can basically trade the other 2 for 1 second, for all I care lol. hahaha

I think one of Garland or Ja Morant is gonna he pretty high on the list assuming Rozier walks. I’d be happy with either. If we can roll a pick over for a future pick down the line that would be great as well but it takes 2 to tango in that aspect
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#226 » by JHTruth » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:41 pm

big-shot-ROB wrote:If we land Garland and Simi with 2 of our 4 picks we can basically trade the other 2 for 1 second, for all I care lol. hahaha


I kind of feel that way about Jaxson Hayes. Give me him and maybe another big prospect in addition to one of the PGs and call it a day..
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#227 » by darylbe » Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:21 pm

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darylbe wrote:Looks like the sell off has come to a close. Don't count on any of these picks amounting to anything but rubbish

No draft pick is rubbish. They landed Williams at 27, Rozier at 16, Semi in the second round and on and on and on. Cheap cost controlled talent is essential when you have 3 max contracts like we do. I can honestly see them using all 4 picks this year if no AD deal is struck


I mean, 3 max contracts- al has 1.5 years left on his and it can't come soon enough. and I wouldn't get too excited about RW3 until I see more than 1 impressive game. He will very likely settle to be a poor man's Okafor.

I don't know, I don't think this team is doing anything with 4 picks in the 20-30 range.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#228 » by Homerclease » Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:30 pm

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darylbe wrote:Looks like the sell off has come to a close. Don't count on any of these picks amounting to anything but rubbish

No draft pick is rubbish. They landed Williams at 27, Rozier at 16, Semi in the second round and on and on and on. Cheap cost controlled talent is essential when you have 3 max contracts like we do. I can honestly see them using all 4 picks this year if no AD deal is struck


I mean, 3 max contracts- al has 1.5 years left on his and it can't come soon enough. and I wouldn't get too excited about RW3 until I see more than 1 impressive game. He will very likely settle to be a poor man's Okafor.

I don't know, I don't think this team is doing anything with 4 picks in the 20-30 range.

Why is he likely to be a poor mans Okafor exactly? And you honestly expect the Kings pick to finish in the 20-30 range? Really?
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#229 » by Smog » Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:24 am

Homerclease wrote:
darylbe wrote:
Homerclease wrote:No draft pick is rubbish. They landed Williams at 27, Rozier at 16, Semi in the second round and on and on and on. Cheap cost controlled talent is essential when you have 3 max contracts like we do. I can honestly see them using all 4 picks this year if no AD deal is struck


I mean, 3 max contracts- al has 1.5 years left on his and it can't come soon enough. and I wouldn't get too excited about RW3 until I see more than 1 impressive game. He will very likely settle to be a poor man's Okafor.

I don't know, I don't think this team is doing anything with 4 picks in the 20-30 range.

Why is he likely to be a poor mans Okafor exactly? And you honestly expect the Kings pick to finish in the 20-30 range? Really?


I can’t think of a center who’s less like Okafor than Robert Williams. One has a great offensive skill and is hopeless on defense; the other is dunk-only on offense and switches on anything on defense.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#230 » by No-Man » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:18 am

Darius Garland and Jaxson Hayes would be my dream picks if I were Boston with the Kings/Grizzlies picks

Alternatively, Ja Morant and Jontay Porter work also, and I think Sekou Doumbouya would fit great with Brad

Those 5 guys are some to track, with your own pick though, Fernando, Brazdeikis, Deividas Sirvydis, Naz Reid, Jaylen Hoard, and then if Talen Horton-Tucker, Simi Shittu Luguentz Dort, Nickeil Alexander-Walker are there (which I doubt) also
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#231 » by darylbe » Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:29 am

Who was bragging about rw3 to me? - 15 +/- in 2 minutes.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#232 » by Homerclease » Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:48 am

darylbe wrote:Who was bragging about rw3 to me? - 15 +/- in 2 minutes.

Right here.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#233 » by Bleeding Green » Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:27 am

Imagine using +/- from a 2 minute sample. lmao the absolute state of this board.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#234 » by Homerclease » Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:28 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:Imagine using +/- from a 2 minute sample. lmao the absolute state of this board.

You win 8 straight and steamroll nearly all your opponents, your rookie is thriving finally getting some action and some people still can’t be happy. Whatcha gonna do lol
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Post#235 » by Silky » Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:11 pm

darylbe wrote:Who was bragging about rw3 to me? - 15 +/- in 2 minutes.
Plus minus is a stupid stat.

2 minutes is an incredibly small sample size.



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Post#236 » by TruthITD » Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:07 am

Homerclease wrote:
Bleeding Green wrote:Imagine using +/- from a 2 minute sample. lmao the absolute state of this board.

You win 8 straight and steamroll nearly all your opponents, your rookie is thriving finally getting some action and some people still can’t be happy. Whatcha gonna do lol


completely agree! we are going to lose from time to time...no dominant team in the East at this point IMO. It's how we respond in the next few games. always tough to go on the road on a back to back. Even dominant teams are favored to win only by a few by the spread quite often.
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Post#237 » by colaroaster » Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:09 am

no i won't sleep on sekou doumbouya - tremendous upside with proper development he's got the intangible tools to become special
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Post#238 » by b3n » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:49 pm

I've only watched him play a couple games, but I like Lagerald Vick. He reminds me of a Jamal Crawford.
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Post#239 » by Duke4life831 » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:01 pm

With Cam probably falling in this draft, he maybe available with that Sac pick if it ends up around 9-11. He has a lot of red flags about his game and needs a lot of work. But I can see him being a really good fit for you guys.
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Post#240 » by djFan71 » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:09 pm

As an ex-Seattlite, I feel super dirty tonight. Rooting for OKC and Portland, yuck.

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