Celtics General Offseason (incl. Trade) Thread, 2019

[Green89]

Ricky Rubio sees Celtics as his potential destination.
https://celticswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/15/report-ricky-rubio-has-interest-signing-with-the-celtics/

I'm personally open to Rubio being our starting PG. He's an elite facilitator, although our already average offense won't improve since he's not good at scoring (shooting for that matter).

This Rubio story is taken out of context. Rubio sees himself as a starting level PG. So he basically went through every roster in the NBA and looked at PG position. If there's an opening, it's a potential destination. Only reason he mentioned Celtics is because Irving could leave and open a starting PG job.

Rubio seems like a nice guy and a great teammate, but unless you're an NBA hipster why would you want a non-shooting PG in 2019 as your starting PG.

On most teams, maybe, but on a team where the coach had trouble designating a shooting and scoring heirarchy, and won't ever tell guys they don't have a green light when he should, a guy who is not going to look for his shot would be a perfect fit.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Would be a good backup PG. Not really thrilled about him as a starter..

If Kyrie stays and Smart gets moved for Davis, and Rubio is willing to take the taxpayer MLE, or work out a sign and trade between Utah and Boston (Rozier to Utah for 14 million, Rubio to Boston for 9?)..

You start him at the 1, with Kyrie at the 2.. He’s a very smart player, would stack with Horford and Hayward in that respect - defends well, passes well, shot is respectable now, the major issue is that with his size and frame, he’s very bad finishing at the rim..

Rubio is going to want a lot more than that.

Where’s he getting it? And 9 million for 1-2 years on a contending team could do more for his visibility and market value than 15 million playing for the Bulls or Magic..

[Edug27]

Jazz just reached the 2nd round of the playoffs, dude was averaging close to a double-double. Shooting better than Kyrie.

Second round? You mean last year? On a 48 win team? Where Rubio shot just as poorly as Kyrie in the playoffs. (Also, you have to take into consideration the types of shots both players are taking lol. Rubio isn’t the primary scorer there.)

Or you mean this year? Losing in 5 to Houston in the first round, where Rubio shot 20% from 3, brick after brick with no remorse, Marcus Smart style.

Again.. he’s a decent starting PG. Just not in a legit team. If Kyrie leaves, and AD is a no-go, I wouldn’t be surprised if Horford opts out for a better situation.. and at that point, we might as well just go super young.

Except Smart shot 36.4 percent from three this year, which is better than Rubio has ever shot in his entire career. Nice try, though.

Whenever a dude can’t shoot but continually jacks them up with no remorse.. that’ll always be “Marcus Smart style” to me homie.

[Edug27]

He's a gamer tho, very smart, good defender.

Would be a good backup PG. Not really thrilled about him as a starter..

If Kyrie stays and Smart gets moved for Davis, and Rubio is willing to take the taxpayer MLE, or work out a sign and trade between Utah and Boston (Rozier to Utah for 14 million, Rubio to Boston for 9?)..

You start him at the 1, with Kyrie at the 2.. He’s a very smart player, would stack with Horford and Hayward in that respect - defends well, passes well, shot is respectable now, the major issue is that with his size and frame, he’s very bad finishing at the rim..

Danny isn’t perfect by any means.. but if AD comes here and Kyrie stays, I have more faith in him to build a better roster than a Rubio and Kyrie backcourt.

[Edug27]

Jazz just reached the 2nd round of the playoffs, dude was averaging close to a double-double. Shooting better than Kyrie.

Second round? You mean last year? On a 48 win team? Where Rubio shot just as poorly as Kyrie in the playoffs. (Also, you have to take into consideration the types of shots both players are taking lol. Rubio isn’t the primary scorer there.)

Or you mean this year? Losing in 5 to Houston in the first round, where Rubio shot 20% from 3, brick after brick with no remorse, Marcus Smart style.

Again.. he’s a decent starting PG. Just not in a legit team. If Kyrie leaves, and AD is a no-go, I wouldn’t be surprised if Horford opts out for a better situation.. and at that point, we might as well just go super young.

Except Smart shot 36.4 percent from three this year, which is better than Rubio has ever shot in his entire career. Nice try, though.

Funny thing is.. I was talking playoff shooting for Rubio. So let’s talk playoff shooting for Smart... in 2 playoff games this season he shot 9% from three (not a typo) on 5.5 attempts... In last years playoff run, he shot 22% from three on 4.5 attempts...

So please, what was wrong with my original comment...

Or you mean this year? Losing in 5 to Houston in the first round, where Rubio shot 20% from 3, brick after brick with no remorse, Marcus Smart style.

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[MagicBagley18]

Second round? You mean last year? On a 48 win team? Where Rubio shot just as poorly as Kyrie in the playoffs. (Also, you have to take into consideration the types of shots both players are taking lol. Rubio isn’t the primary scorer there.)

Or you mean this year? Losing in 5 to Houston in the first round, where Rubio shot 20% from 3, brick after brick with no remorse, Marcus Smart style.

Again.. he’s a decent starting PG. Just not in a legit team. If Kyrie leaves, and AD is a no-go, I wouldn’t be surprised if Horford opts out for a better situation.. and at that point, we might as well just go super young.

Except Smart shot 36.4 percent from three this year, which is better than Rubio has ever shot in his entire career. Nice try, though.

Whenever a dude can’t shoot but continually jacks them up with no remorse.. that’ll always be “Marcus Smart style” to me homie.

Rubio blows. Can’t shoot in a league where you want guards to be able to. Would be great back up on a real championship team tho.

[Darth Celtic]

4 Simple Steps to Contention:
Horford, Irving, and Durant all opt in.
Horford and Durant get traded for each other.
Hayward gets traded for Anthony Davis.
Sign ring-chasers.

Irving, Brown, Tatum, KD, AD w/ Smart as 6th man.

(I'm out of green fonts.)

Ad trade would be illegal. Kyrie has to opt out

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[L3GEND4RY]

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How far we’ve strayed from this. Really sad.

All the drama with Kyrie, Rozier on ESPN, etc. Can’t wait for whatever overhaul Danny has planned.

[cloverleaf]

Ricky Rubio sees Celtics as his potential destination.
https://celticswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/15/report-ricky-rubio-has-interest-signing-with-the-celtics/

I'm personally open to Rubio being our starting PG. He's an elite facilitator, although our already average offense won't improve since he's not good at scoring (shooting for that matter).

This Rubio story is taken out of context. Rubio sees himself as a starting level PG. So he basically went through every roster in the NBA and looked at PG position. If there's an opening, it's a potential destination. Only reason he mentioned Celtics is because Irving could leave and open a starting PG job.

Rubio seems like a nice guy and a great teammate, but unless you're an NBA hipster why would you want a non-shooting PG in 2019 as your starting PG.

On most teams, maybe, but on a team where the coach had trouble designating a shooting and scoring heirarchy, and won't ever tell guys they don't have a green light when he should, a guy who is not going to look for his shot would be a perfect fit.

Exactly. I think Rubio is a great fit with JT, JB and GH as the starting scorers next season.

[Afam]

One of the players that wouldn't be on the team come next season.

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Celtics are going to try and re-sign kyrie first, then trade for Anthony Davis.

[chrisab123]

One of the players that wouldn't be on the team come next season.

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Celtics are going to try and re-sign kyrie first, then trade for Anthony Davis.

Stunned that he doesn't have ME anywhere in his name. All about "ME". Not the team.

[Green89]

Brad's coaching search continues, as Bickerstaff joined the Cavs staff.

[Floody100]

Can someone fill me in as to why everyone writing ‘freedom for AS Roma, Pallota go Home’ on the comments of every Boston Facebook post ?

[ILC]

Can someone fill me in as to why everyone writing ‘freedom for AS Roma, Pallota go Home’ on the comments of every Boston Facebook post ?

James Pallotta is a Boston businessman and part-owner of Celtics I think and the owner of Italian football club AS Roma. Fans have been unhappy with him for some time because they think he's not committed, doesn't want to spend money, lives in Boston instead of Rome etc.

[Floody100]

Can someone fill me in as to why everyone writing ‘freedom for AS Roma, Pallota go Home’ on the comments of every Boston Facebook post ?

James Pallotta is a Boston businessman and part-owner of Celtics I think and the owner of Italian football club AS Roma. Fans have been unhappy with him for some time because they think he's not committed, doesn't want to spend money, lives in Boston instead of Rome etc.

Can they post their problems somewhere else lol, I actually want to read what people have to say about the combine.

[Edug27]

Isiah Thomas was on "First Things First" this morning talking about Kyrie, and he pretty much stated what I've been saying for awhile now. Yes, Kyrie has things to learn about being a leader, and he will improve with time and experience. But there were also some dudes in the locker room that didn't want to be led... especially by Kyrie. Rozier mentioned many times he was competing with Kyrie and gunnin' for his spot. Jaylen had his own issues with finding his role in the offense.

IFFFF, and that's a big if, Kyrie is open to returning to Boston, then Danny needs to remove anyone from that locker room that does not want to be led by Kyrie. The team needs to be built AROUND Kyrie (and hopefully AD). A roster full of players that compliment him and personalities that blend well with his. Kyrie needs vets that are secure in their roles and are consistent in what they bring day in and day out. Players who understand the pecking order.

Because at the end of the day, as Isiah stated, KYRIE IS THE UNIQUE TALENT HERE. He is the star player with an elite skill set. Dudes like Rozier and Jaylen are replaceable.

Now, with all of that said, Kyrie has shown one big thing to me this year.... He's not a number 1. In order to be the best with Kyrie, you need a player in here that he gets along with and is superior to him. He's an ideal #2 option on a team.

[greenpierce]

If the Cs can't make the AD/Kyrie thing work this offseason, my 2nd preference is to try and add Beal to pair with Tatum moving into the future. The vet & young gun, who are already tight. Plus I like how Beal and Smart could work together in the back court.

The problem is probably selling WAS on taking Hayward back to make salaries work, even while the Cs have to eat Mahinmi's salary.

So something like: Hayward, Brown, Yabu and a 1st, for Beal and Mahinmi.

SO... Smart, Beal, Tatum, Horford, Baynes / Williams, Ojeleye, Theis, Mahinmi, picks and signings. It's a soft reboot for a team that fell flat this past year.

[itrsteve]

Can’t wait to trade everything for AD then spend the year worrying about if he’ll stay and if we traded away the future for nothing.

[Edug27]

Can’t wait to trade everything for AD then spend the year worrying about if he’ll stay and if we traded away the future for nothing.

Opposed to hoping Tatum becomes a franchise player?