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BostonCouchGM wrote:
his fumble at the :27 mark is all you need to see. These workout videos are embarrassing to begin with. Melo has been dazzling us for years with these. But to not even be able to get through 30 seconds without fumbling the ball is cringe. He's entering his 4th seasons. He's an okay 3 and D guy at best. People really need to let it go with all the expectations above that.
Saint Lazarus wrote:ermocrate wrote:I like how people jumped at Jayson throat because he is a St.Luois fan (duh)... I think someone has to stop idiotic fans from making more damages than the ones they have already done... No wonder players are not so big on coming here...
I know you posted this a long time ago, but I just want you to acknowledge just how wrong you are.
Horford. Hayward. Kemba.
3 big free agents in 3 offseasons. "players are not so big on coming here"
Not to mention your trash take on Jaylen lol.
ermocrate wrote:Saint Lazarus wrote:ermocrate wrote:I like how people jumped at Jayson throat because he is a St.Luois fan (duh)... I think someone has to stop idiotic fans from making more damages than the ones they have already done... No wonder players are not so big on coming here...
I know you posted this a long time ago, but I just want you to acknowledge just how wrong you are.
Horford. Hayward. Kemba.
3 big free agents in 3 offseasons. "players are not so big on coming here"
Not to mention your trash take on Jaylen lol.
You know the different between “not so big” and “don’t want to come here” and didn’t even intended it in an entirely bad way...
Last time a top 10 NBA player signed for Boston...?
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See, who’s wrong...? I’m sorry to inform you that’s you... Bye kid
cloverleaf wrote:ermocrate wrote:Saint Lazarus wrote:
I know you posted this a long time ago, but I just want you to acknowledge just how wrong you are.
Horford. Hayward. Kemba.
3 big free agents in 3 offseasons. "players are not so big on coming here"
Not to mention your trash take on Jaylen lol.
You know the different between “not so big” and “don’t want to come here” and didn’t even intended it in an entirely bad way...
Last time a top 10 NBA player signed for Boston...?
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See, who’s wrong...? I’m sorry to inform you that’s you... Bye kid
That would be KG agreeing to reup if he were traded here. Pretty much the same thing as signing as a FA, but when the C's didn't have the cap space to sign a big FA--as they usually haven't had. Boston as a city and team probably isn't NY, LA or Miami as a draw--but I'd put it right there after those three.
ermocrate wrote:cloverleaf wrote:ermocrate wrote:You know the different between “not so big” and “don’t want to come here” and didn’t even intended it in an entirely bad way...
Last time a top 10 NBA player signed for Boston...?
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...
...
...
See, who’s wrong...? I’m sorry to inform you that’s you... Bye kid
That would be KG agreeing to reup if he were traded here. Pretty much the same thing as signing as a FA, but when the C's didn't have the cap space to sign a big FA--as they usually haven't had. Boston as a city and team probably isn't NY, LA or Miami as a draw--but I'd put it right there after those three.
It’s not the same thing I I’ll give you KG and KG liked it here because HE ACTUALLY is the impersonation of Celtics values, since most of superstars right now are soft ass men most of them are not so big on coming to Boston, that, as I said, is not entirely negative because I don’t want soft ass men playing for Boston but sometimes may help not jump at the throat of someone for stupid things. Al and Kemba are both Celtics minded player imho and Hayward came here because of Brad...
PS: I watched an interview with Pat Riley were he talked about the 1984 and 1985 finals, he is still crying because we didn’t threat them well in 1984 and boy I was LMAO...
Green89 wrote:BostonCouchGM wrote:
his fumble at the :27 mark is all you need to see. These workout videos are embarrassing to begin with. Melo has been dazzling us for years with these. But to not even be able to get through 30 seconds without fumbling the ball is cringe. He's entering his 4th seasons. He's an okay 3 and D guy at best. People really need to let it go with all the expectations above that.
He was trying to be crafty and go between his legs. No big deal.
reflex35 wrote:Green89 wrote:BostonCouchGM wrote:
his fumble at the :27 mark is all you need to see. These workout videos are embarrassing to begin with. Melo has been dazzling us for years with these. But to not even be able to get through 30 seconds without fumbling the ball is cringe. He's entering his 4th seasons. He's an okay 3 and D guy at best. People really need to let it go with all the expectations above that.
He was trying to be crafty and go between his legs. No big deal.
I do not see anything "great" in that video. He is a promising wing who wants to be elite player. He even looks slow, but it's hard to judge from the video on how much effort he is giving and is it his first 15 min of practice or is that already going for a couple of hours.
darrendaye wrote:reflex35 wrote:Green89 wrote:
He was trying to be crafty and go between his legs. No big deal.
I do not see anything "great" in that video. He is a promising wing who wants to be elite player. He even looks slow, but it's hard to judge from the video on how much effort he is giving and is it his first 15 min of practice or is that already going for a couple of hours.
This. As I typically say with these videos, if it's not being done at game speed and similar game conditions, you don't speed up your decision making ability and mentally referencing your catalog of countermoves, it's not achieving the results you want. Watching Tatum shake 10 year olds or Brown drive past 50 year old coaches, I'm sure, isn't the zenith of your ball-handling training program, so I can't use it to make any judgments about the actual intensity in which you are training, if that is the message these marketing pieces are meant to convey (in Jason's case, obviously not). So unless he is really doing some and-1 level dribbling displays, all I can take from these videos is, "it's just nice to see you again Jaylen."
darrendaye wrote:reflex35 wrote:Green89 wrote:
He was trying to be crafty and go between his legs. No big deal.
I do not see anything "great" in that video. He is a promising wing who wants to be elite player. He even looks slow, but it's hard to judge from the video on how much effort he is giving and is it his first 15 min of practice or is that already going for a couple of hours.
This. As I typically say with these videos, if it's not being done at game speed and similar game conditions, you don't speed up your decision making ability and mentally referencing your catalog of countermoves, it's not achieving the results you want. Watching Tatum shake 10 year olds or Brown drive past 50 year old coaches, I'm sure, isn't the zenith of your ball-handling training program, so I can't use it to make any judgments about the actual intensity in which you are training, if that is the message these marketing pieces are meant to convey (in Jason's case, obviously not). So unless he is really doing some and-1 level dribbling displays, all I can take from these videos is, "it's just nice to see you again Jaylen."
GrandTheftRondo wrote:darrendaye wrote:reflex35 wrote:
I do not see anything "great" in that video. He is a promising wing who wants to be elite player. He even looks slow, but it's hard to judge from the video on how much effort he is giving and is it his first 15 min of practice or is that already going for a couple of hours.
This. As I typically say with these videos, if it's not being done at game speed and similar game conditions, you don't speed up your decision making ability and mentally referencing your catalog of countermoves, it's not achieving the results you want. Watching Tatum shake 10 year olds or Brown drive past 50 year old coaches, I'm sure, isn't the zenith of your ball-handling training program, so I can't use it to make any judgments about the actual intensity in which you are training, if that is the message these marketing pieces are meant to convey (in Jason's case, obviously not). So unless he is really doing some and-1 level dribbling displays, all I can take from these videos is, "it's just nice to see you again Jaylen."
With workouts like this I think it’s typically about working on footwork and ensuring that is all in order.
He absolutely would do similar stuff at game speed.
People can rip into Jaylen for his lack of ballhandling but even an improvement in footwork would see great results I think.
BostonCouchGM wrote:
his fumble at the :27 mark is all you need to see. These workout videos are embarrassing to begin with. Melo has been dazzling us for years with these. But to not even be able to get through 30 seconds without fumbling the ball is cringe. He's entering his 4th seasons. He's an okay 3 and D guy at best. People really need to let it go with all the expectations above that.
ermocrate wrote:cloverleaf wrote:ermocrate wrote:You know the different between “not so big” and “don’t want to come here” and didn’t even intended it in an entirely bad way...
Last time a top 10 NBA player signed for Boston...?
...
...
...
...
...
See, who’s wrong...? I’m sorry to inform you that’s you... Bye kid
That would be KG agreeing to reup if he were traded here. Pretty much the same thing as signing as a FA, but when the C's didn't have the cap space to sign a big FA--as they usually haven't had. Boston as a city and team probably isn't NY, LA or Miami as a draw--but I'd put it right there after those three.
It’s not the same thing I I’ll give you KG and KG liked it here because HE ACTUALLY is the impersonation of Celtics values, since most of superstars right now are soft ass men most of them are not so big on coming to Boston, that, as I said, is not entirely negative because I don’t want soft ass men playing for Boston but sometimes may help not jump at the throat of someone for stupid things. Al and Kemba are both Celtics minded player imho and Hayward came here because of Brad...
PS: I watched an interview with Pat Riley were he talked about the 1984 and 1985 finals, he is still crying because we didn’t threat them well in 1984 and boy I was LMAO...
tombattor wrote:ermocrate wrote:cloverleaf wrote:
That would be KG agreeing to reup if he were traded here. Pretty much the same thing as signing as a FA, but when the C's didn't have the cap space to sign a big FA--as they usually haven't had. Boston as a city and team probably isn't NY, LA or Miami as a draw--but I'd put it right there after those three.
It’s not the same thing I I’ll give you KG and KG liked it here because HE ACTUALLY is the impersonation of Celtics values, since most of superstars right now are soft ass men most of them are not so big on coming to Boston, that, as I said, is not entirely negative because I don’t want soft ass men playing for Boston but sometimes may help not jump at the throat of someone for stupid things. Al and Kemba are both Celtics minded player imho and Hayward came here because of Brad...
PS: I watched an interview with Pat Riley were he talked about the 1984 and 1985 finals, he is still crying because we didn’t threat them well in 1984 and boy I was LMAO...
It's not because NBA players are soft and Boston is some tough place only selected few can handle. NBA players don't want to come to Boston because it has a reputation of being racist. I don't care how many people make how many excuses for it. If you are a star black player, any chance of any slightest form of racism is more than enough to keep him away. No one wants to deal with that crap, even if it's just in your head and you actually never really encounter it yourself, the history is way more than enough. So until Boston really goes above and beyond to lose that reputation, we'll always have a hard time getting FAs, even though we are one of the marquee teams. But we can draft well and sign 2nd tier players whom we can overpay, like Horford.
reflex35 wrote:darrendaye wrote:reflex35 wrote:
I do not see anything "great" in that video. He is a promising wing who wants to be elite player. He even looks slow, but it's hard to judge from the video on how much effort he is giving and is it his first 15 min of practice or is that already going for a couple of hours.
This. As I typically say with these videos, if it's not being done at game speed and similar game conditions, you don't speed up your decision making ability and mentally referencing your catalog of countermoves, it's not achieving the results you want. Watching Tatum shake 10 year olds or Brown drive past 50 year old coaches, I'm sure, isn't the zenith of your ball-handling training program, so I can't use it to make any judgments about the actual intensity in which you are training, if that is the message these marketing pieces are meant to convey (in Jason's case, obviously not). So unless he is really doing some and-1 level dribbling displays, all I can take from these videos is, "it's just nice to see you again Jaylen."
Well said!
keevsnick1 wrote:reflex35 wrote:darrendaye wrote:
This. As I typically say with these videos, if it's not being done at game speed and similar game conditions, you don't speed up your decision making ability and mentally referencing your catalog of countermoves, it's not achieving the results you want. Watching Tatum shake 10 year olds or Brown drive past 50 year old coaches, I'm sure, isn't the zenith of your ball-handling training program, so I can't use it to make any judgments about the actual intensity in which you are training, if that is the message these marketing pieces are meant to convey (in Jason's case, obviously not). So unless he is really doing some and-1 level dribbling displays, all I can take from these videos is, "it's just nice to see you again Jaylen."
Well said!
I sometimes think sports fandom should be a certified mental disorder, because only a crazy person would seriously consider breaking down a players skills/improvement over a workout video.