Welcome to Boston Enes Kanter!

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My biggest concern is how to retain the dude after he puts up a 20/10 season next year...I think the best we can offer will be the Mid-Level.

My hope is Rob does so well this year that Enes doesn't have a chance to put up 20. (He can grab the 10 in his sleep, however.)

[Darth Celtic]

Good economical shooting motion. It would be cool if he could hit those reliably.

I bet we’ll get to see quite a bit of this! (And think it might work though I’d rather him down low and on the glass)

I am putting over under at 20 made 3s. Optimistic but realistic imo

His jump shot looks legit. If he works on it all summer, he might be good for 2 3's a game.

[Gant]

The Celtics suddenly have 4 centers. They need two to perform to the high end of expectations. Kanter is the most predictable of the 4. He does some things great and some below par.

Williams: super athletic and working hard, but raw. Could make a leap.
Poirier: came to the game late in life, very long, new to the NBA, developing quickly.
Theis: The promise from his first year was slowed dramatically by injuries. Now healthy, he could do pretty well.

Go Tacko!!

[Tiny ball]

Loved seeing his hook shot. I did not know he was this skilled.

[Tiny ball]

The Celtics suddenly have 4 centers. They need two to perform to the high end of expectations. Kanter is the most predictable of the 4. He does some things great and some below par.

Williams: super athletic and working hard, but raw. Could make a leap.
Poirier: came to the game late in life, very long, new to the NBA, developing quickly.
Theis: The promise from his first year was slowed dramatically by injuries. Now healthy, he could do pretty well.

Go Tacko!!

To me Williams and Theis are not really centers. They look like forwards to me.

[Fencer reregistered]

The Celtics suddenly have 4 centers. They need two to perform to the high end of expectations. Kanter is the most predictable of the 4. He does some things great and some below par.

Williams: super athletic and working hard, but raw. Could make a leap.
Poirier: came to the game late in life, very long, new to the NBA, developing quickly.
Theis: The promise from his first year was slowed dramatically by injuries. Now healthy, he could do pretty well.

Go Tacko!!

To me Williams and Theis are not really centers. They look like forwards to me.

To me a center is a guy who can compete near the basket from a standing start. Williams looks like that at both ends of the floor, due mainly to his springiness. Theis -- not so much.

[Tiny ball]

The Celtics suddenly have 4 centers. They need two to perform to the high end of expectations. Kanter is the most predictable of the 4. He does some things great and some below par.

Williams: super athletic and working hard, but raw. Could make a leap.
Poirier: came to the game late in life, very long, new to the NBA, developing quickly.
Theis: The promise from his first year was slowed dramatically by injuries. Now healthy, he could do pretty well.

Go Tacko!!

To me Williams and Theis are not really centers. They look like forwards to me.

To me a center is a guy who can compete near the basket from a standing start. Williams looks like that at both ends of the floor, due mainly to his springiness. Theis -- not so much.

Think that is what he like to play also. Lot of small ball centers so he should get some minutes?

[TMU]

Great signing. He provides good interior scoring. His defense is terrible so will need to get more Time Lord action to help him out.

[sam_I_am]

I love Kanter signing because he proved he can be a starting center on a backcourt dominant team making a run to WCF in an era when 90% of elite talent is in WC. Despite his obvious flaws and his limited talent, he is proven. He literally proved himself last year,

Now we need RW to rip that starting job out of his hands,

[Tiny ball]

I love Kanter signing because he proved he can be a starting center on a backcourt dominant team making a run to WCF in an era when 90% of elite talent is in WC. Despite his obvious flaws and his limited talent, he is proven. He literally proved himself last year,

Now we need RW to rip that starting job out of his hands,

RW looks years away from that to me.

[Steal by Bird]

The Celtics suddenly have 4 centers. They need two to perform to the high end of expectations. Kanter is the most predictable of the 4. He does some things great and some below par.

Williams: super athletic and working hard, but raw. Could make a leap.
Poirier: came to the game late in life, very long, new to the NBA, developing quickly.
Theis: The promise from his first year was slowed dramatically by injuries. Now healthy, he could do pretty well.

Go Tacko!!

Maybe, they may have none.

[djFan71]

Spoiler:

Shots. Al was low-volume shooter and high-volume facilitator. A strong passer and ball-mover who also spaced the floor for others.

Kanter does not space the floor for others and he's not a great passer. He's a scorer. He plays well off of ball-dominant guards because he's a good roll man and offensive rebounder, but he also needs post touches to put up his points.

Kemba and Kanter in particular need to shoot the ball a lot to maintain their value. Both are terrible defenders who will be attacked repeatedly. They stay positive (or neutral in Kanter's case) primarily by scoring in impressive volume at impressive efficiency.

This type of set-up works best when the other guys on the floor are 3/D. Portland had Harkless and Aminu, two sub 14% usage guys, to work around Dame (29% usage) CJ (26%) and Nurkic/Kanter (25/23).

Asking 2 of Hayward/Tatum/Jaylen to be shooter spectators is not going to go over well.

I notice you didn't say anything on Kemba. Even in his interview with SVP on Sportscenter, he admitted without explicitly saying it that he could compete in Boston, cause reality is no one was really around him in Charlotte thus he took more shots. I wanna see how he plays now that he actually has players like Hayward/Tatum/Brown. Not saying he won't put up shots, but I don't think you're giving enough credit to what Kemba's joining in Boston vs what he's leaving.

You have a point on Horford being a better passer, but apart from that, he has similar FGA to Kanter. The only thing even there as I mentioned is that Horford can shoot 3's, but it's not like he put up less actual shots than Kanter. One other thing I notice is that Kanter's a bit of a better rebounder, so it works that he plays closer to the basket. Look, Horford's better by a mile I'm not disputing that, but I don't buy that suddenly we'll have a "only one ball on the court" problem that we didn't supposedly have last season.

I think we need to take a little closer work on how the team is going to fit.

Kemba is a pick and roll player, I think he was top 5 in PnR attempts last season. He doesn't work if he's not PnR.

Kanter, is a top level roll man on the PnR. So yes Kanter will get some low post touches, but a lot of his shots are going to be coming naturally off of a Kemba PnR. Which again, Kemba like IT needs PnRs to be anywhere near his best efficient form of offense.

Brown, Tatum, and Hayward are going to be upset about shots. I think Hayward will be a professional about it, I'm not so sure about the Jays.

But in a lineup of

Kemba
Brown
Tatum
Hayward
Kanter

Brown and Tatum would work best playing the Bradley/Crowder style roled. And Hayward playing the Kelly 0 styled role in an IT like offense.

The main difference is our current 3 unlike the previous 3 (potentially with Kelly 0 and Hayward as an exception) are much better at driving to the basket after a kickout 3 if they are not open.

But that's how this team would be the most effective on offense. And yes sure we'll sprinkle in some Kanter and Tatum ISOs as we go. I'm sure if there's a really small guard on Smart we'll sprinkle in some low post Smart things too. It's a long game and you don't always have your starting 5 on. But that's the 80% of the game rules we should be playing by... if everyone buys in and wants to win as bad as Kemba does. I question Brown, Tatum, and Smart's professionalism to take a step back and not play ISO Melo ball.

Solid points. I think I might like the idea of starting Williams and having Smart/Kanter anchor the 2nd unit. Helps split up the offensive duties, and Smart can run a pick and roll lob pretty well. Williams doesn't need shots in there with the starters. Give him the token 8 min starting job per half and see how it goes. Could be ugly early like last year with the defense, but worse with no Al, but as long as it's not TOO ugly, I'd be willing to see how it works itself out.

[eris]

The Celtics suddenly have 4 centers. They need two to perform to the high end of expectations. Kanter is the most predictable of the 4. He does some things great and some below par.

Williams: super athletic and working hard, but raw. Could make a leap.
Poirier: came to the game late in life, very long, new to the NBA, developing quickly.
Theis: The promise from his first year was slowed dramatically by injuries. Now healthy, he could do pretty well.

Go Tacko!!

To me Williams and Theis are not really centers. They look like forwards to me.

Me, too!

Of course, in today's NBA of "small ball" they are what passes for a center in many cases.

Frankly, I'd like to see what a Kanter/RWilliams/Tatum/Hayward(Brown)/Walker lineup could do. Especially against the 76'ers.

[Celtic Esquire]

This is Kanter's agent. Any suggestions from the locals?

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[Andrew McCeltic]

I love Kanter signing because he proved he can be a starting center on a backcourt dominant team making a run to WCF in an era when 90% of elite talent is in WC. Despite his obvious flaws and his limited talent, he is proven. He literally proved himself last year,

Now we need RW to rip that starting job out of his hands,

He did the same thing in OKC when they had Durant..

[GoGreen]

Nice to see some talking about big Bob Williams playing the 4. I am very intrigued by what he could do there. He can guard the perimeter, incredible athlete for his size, and I think has the speed and quickness for that position (against most PFs anyway).

A big lineup of Enes/Williams/Tatum/Jaylen/Hayward vs Philly?

I'd love to see it.

[darrendaye]

Not sure if this was posted earlier in the thread, but....https://dailyknicks.com/2018/06/26/new-york-knicks-david-fizdale-enes-kanter-three-ball/

Now you can go a number of directions off that, admittedly, fluffy article. But he knows he will need to become proficient or he's a few years from NBA extinction. Likely going to have quite a few Sully flashbacks with Kanter and potentially G. Williams being allowed some growing pains and a green light to shoot from behind the arc this season.

[sam_I_am]

https://www.ringsidenews.com/2019/07/03/watch-enes-kanter-hit-diamond-cutter-during-pro-wrestling-training/

[Green89]

This is Kanter's agent. Any suggestions from the locals?

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That's great he's already involved in the community before even stepping on the court for us. Someone find him a facility!

[celticfan42487]

This is Kanter's agent. Any suggestions from the locals?

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That's great he's already involved in the community before even stepping on the court for us. Someone find him a facility!

Hey, the freaking Celtics have a state of the art one likely not being used in Waltham.

They can probably use that.