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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#221 » by Fencer reregistered » Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:26 am

The Celtics have 3 veteran PGs ahead of Wanamaker, and that's if you count the guy who just broke his hand. The rookie PGs aren't ready yet. Maybe this will all change by midseason, but for now Wanamaker has a real role on the team, at least on an emergency basis.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#222 » by Half-Full » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:52 pm

Fencer reregistered wrote:The Celtics have 3 veteran PGs ahead of Wanamaker, and that's if you count the guy who just broke his hand. The rookie PGs aren't ready yet. Maybe this will all change by midseason, but for now Wanamaker has a real role on the team, at least on an emergency basis.


Not to mention the fact that Wanamaker has been playing well. Not spectacular, but solid. He doesn't try to do too much on offense, but has a nice floater and is not a bad three point shooter (though he doesn't shoot a lot of threes). He plays like he knows what he's doing, and why not? He has a lot of experience. He is averaging a steal per game, which is pretty good considering he only gets limited minutes (averaging 11 min./game). As I said in a previous thread, Wanamaker doesn't seem to get much respect in this forum. Whenever his name is mentioned, it is usually not to praise him. More like let's trade him or cut him in order to sign someone better. We do need a back up PG, though, and Wanamaker is doing a decent job. At least I think so.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#223 » by sam_I_am » Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:12 pm

Romeo looked good as primary ball handler for Maine. I’d love to see Brad push him into Hayward’s role tomorrow as an experiment.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#224 » by 100proof » Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:44 pm

sam_I_am wrote:Romeo looked good as primary ball handler for Maine. I’d love to see Brad push him into Hayward’s role tomorrow as an experiment.


Um. No
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Post#225 » by djFan71 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:49 am

This trade seems to balance out needs without shifting things too greatly:

BOS: Kanter/Semi for Aminu & ORL 2021 2nd
ORL: Aminu, 2021 2nd for Skal, Little
POR: Skal, Little for Kanter/Semi

Aminu is another big in the Theis mold, and can hit the 3.
Kanter goes back to POR who needs a big with Collins out. Semi can help out as a swing as well.
ORL clears a guy they don't really need for some young length which they love.

Not sure I love giving up on Kanter already, or holding his salary for a bigger trade, but if you do it early enough, Aminu can be flipped again at the deadline (I believe) and would count as even more.
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Post#226 » by Ernest » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:58 am

Drummond has been talked to death, but the Pistons really should do something right? I mean is their plan to almost make the playoffs every year?
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Post#227 » by ParticleMan » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:58 am

djFan71 wrote:This trade seems to balance out needs without shifting things too greatly:

BOS: Kanter/Semi for Aminu & ORL 2021 2nd
ORL: Aminu, 2021 2nd for Skal, Little
POR: Skal, Little for Kanter/Semi

Aminu is another big in the Theis mold, and can hit the 3.
Kanter goes back to POR who needs a big with Collins out. Semi can help out as a swing as well.
ORL clears a guy they don't really need for some young length which they love.

Not sure I love giving up on Kanter already, or holding his salary for a bigger trade, but if you do it early enough, Aminu can be flipped again at the deadline (I believe) and would count as even more.


This would be good if Kanter is genuinely going to cause problems as a 3rd big. If not he is quite useful in certain matchups and will occasionally go off and win a game for you. Everyone seems to think Kanter will be unhappy if he's not starting. I guess I haven't followed him enough, has that been a problem before?
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#228 » by sam_I_am » Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:51 pm

100proof wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:Romeo looked good as primary ball handler for Maine. I’d love to see Brad push him into Hayward’s role tomorrow as an experiment.


Um. No


Of course it won’t happen here because Smart will get the start. But in most other teams ....usually rebuilding...... the lottery pick does get the opportunity. When Romeo is ready....he will make an impact because he is the most talented of our rookies.
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Post#229 » by Zombiesonics » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:25 pm

If i'm ainge i'm spending a lot of mental energy on how to upgrade the backup guard position because the combo of wanamaker and edwards is not cutting it. Edwards specifically, i'm a bit confused how boston fans here still want him to get minutes. He can't run or guard pick n roll, has a questionable shot selection, and is undersized for his position. I also 100% believe Waters would be doing much better given those minutes, but thats still not the answer.
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Post#230 » by Marvel » Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:51 pm

Zombiesonics wrote:If i'm ainge i'm spending a lot of mental energy on how to upgrade the backup guard position because the combo of wanamaker and edwards is not cutting it. Edwards specifically, i'm a bit confused how boston fans here still want him to get minutes. He can't run or guard pick n roll, has a questionable shot selection, and is undersized for his position. I also 100% believe Waters would be doing much better given those minutes, but thats still not the answer.

If i had any say in the matter, Waters would be the backup PG and Wanamaker would be off the team with Carsen getting 12 mpg in a limited role.
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Post#231 » by djFan71 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:41 pm

ParticleMan wrote:
djFan71 wrote:This trade seems to balance out needs without shifting things too greatly:

BOS: Kanter/Semi for Aminu & ORL 2021 2nd
ORL: Aminu, 2021 2nd for Skal, Little
POR: Skal, Little for Kanter/Semi

Aminu is another big in the Theis mold, and can hit the 3.
Kanter goes back to POR who needs a big with Collins out. Semi can help out as a swing as well.
ORL clears a guy they don't really need for some young length which they love.

Not sure I love giving up on Kanter already, or holding his salary for a bigger trade, but if you do it early enough, Aminu can be flipped again at the deadline (I believe) and would count as even more.


This would be good if Kanter is genuinely going to cause problems as a 3rd big. If not he is quite useful in certain matchups and will occasionally go off and win a game for you. Everyone seems to think Kanter will be unhappy if he's not starting. I guess I haven't followed him enough, has that been a problem before?

I've heard similar on Kanter, but not sure I would worry about it. I was proposing it more as a response to the team playing well without him, utilizing bigs that are mobile, can defend, and dive and/or shoot the 3 on offense. Theis could do both, Aminu the 3, Timelord the diving. Grant a little of all of it. I'm not sure we really need Kanter's post ups or O-rebounding to score. And if he's a minus on the defensive end, then what's the point?

But, realistically, we need to see him play. Maybe Brad schemes around him enough the D doesn't suffer and he's a net positive. I doubt anything happens since he was their #2 target in FA, and, they obviously had plans for him. I was just killing time looking for trades to get a PF in and threw that together.
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Post#232 » by Gomes3PC » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:21 am

I don't understand the Wanamaker hate. His per 36 is 12/5/5 with almost 3 steals. He has size, plays well on or off the ball and defends. He's just a flat out better player than Edwards or Waters at this stage of their careers.
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Post#233 » by 100proof » Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:37 pm

Gomes3PC wrote:I don't understand the Wanamaker hate. His per 36 is 12/5/5 with almost 3 steals. He has size, plays well on or off the ball and defends. He's just a flat out better player than Edwards or Waters at this stage of their careers.



Do people hate him?

Its jsut that he is a reasonable person to trade based on the potential of the rookies.
And that to get a good PF,for example, you are going to have to include 1 of Wannamaker, Edwards or waters.
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Post#234 » by SmartWentCrazy » Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:44 pm

Gomes3PC wrote:I don't understand the Wanamaker hate. His per 36 is 12/5/5 with almost 3 steals. He has size, plays well on or off the ball and defends. He's just a flat out better player than Edwards or Waters at this stage of their careers.


+1.

Edwards should not be given minutes until he proves he can help the team.
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Post#235 » by snowman » Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:44 pm

I think I can safely say that Walker, Smart, Brown, Tatum, Haywood, R. Williams, Theis and add to this group now Wannamaker, are not being shopped or are we looking to move. Also, G. Williams, Edwards, Green, Langford, Kanter, or Poirier (or signing Poirier and Kanrter) are not being shopped because of just drafting them, and their potential. However, Poirier has been a big disappointment this season so far, and I think needs a stint in Maine to get some reps once we see Kanter is 100% and getting minutes (behind Theis and R. Williams or course) Semi needs to be moved. Green should have all his minutes, and he should never leave the bench. He should be the other inactive player along with Haywood. He is a definite negative and needs to be moved for another negative contract if necessary. He is living on one good defensive series against Giannis, but not so much lately. (all IMHO of course)
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Post#236 » by Homerclease » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:21 pm

I renew my idea, Semi and a second rounder for Harry Giles. Just to get Semi off this team and save Brad from himself
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#237 » by snowman » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:27 pm

I would do Semi for Giles in a heartbeat. Problem is, it doesn't work in the trade checker. Believe me, I've tried.
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Post#238 » by MrGreenRunsDeep » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:37 pm

Andre Drummond... That’s who I want for rebounding. Time lord and Andre Drummond would be like Kg and Perkins back in the days lol .. yes I’m a lil high on some nice Cango Greeeen! Lmao
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Post#239 » by rob4748 » Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:40 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Gomes3PC wrote:I don't understand the Wanamaker hate. His per 36 is 12/5/5 with almost 3 steals. He has size, plays well on or off the ball and defends. He's just a flat out better player than Edwards or Waters at this stage of their careers.


+1.

Edwards should not be given minutes until he proves he can help the team.


I hate Wanamaker and I don't know why. You're completely correct, he's an ideal 3rd PG on the team or 2nd PG with Hayward out but for some reason I don't like him.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20 

Post#240 » by Homerclease » Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:53 pm

snowman wrote:I would do Semi for Giles in a heartbeat. Problem is, it doesn't work in the trade checker. Believe me, I've tried.

It worked on the trade checker for me

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