Trade Thread Part Deux

Curmudgeon · Post #221 » by **Curmudgeon** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:18 am

Don't know if they are finals ready, but they're pretty good at home when everyone plays.

Floody100 · Post #222 » by **Floody100** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:51 am

I’m still all for a trade involving Semi, Porirer, Wanamaker & a pick to get D Rose & Markieff Morris.
Thoughts ?

steefP2 · Post #223 » by **steefP2** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:06 am

Just bet Bjelica. Solves bench scoring, shooting and is an actual pf sized pf. Poirier, Semi and a pick works on the trade machine. Kings look like they're ready to give up on this season. Also Bjelica is signed through next year as well.

No other potential move i've seen makes more sense then that. It's low risk, high reward and also frees up a roster spot for a buyout guy if someone ends up being available. I'm gonna go nuts if this doesn't happen.

batabatuta · Post #224 » by **batabatuta** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:16 am

The 7 man rotation is fine. Except for Javonte Green, Langford and Tacko, you can trade the rest for a veteran shooter or big.

Floody100 · Post #225 » by **Floody100** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:41 am

steefP2 wrote:Just bet Bjelica. Solves bench scoring, shooting and is an actual pf sized pf. Poirier, Semi and a pick works on the trade machine. Kings look like they're ready to give up on this season. Also Bjelica is signed through next year as well.

No other potential move i've seen makes more sense then that. It's low risk, high reward and also frees up a roster spot for a buyout guy if someone ends up being available. I'm gonna go nuts if this doesn't happen.

Actually scratch my trade idea, add Burks with Bjelica & I’d be happy.

Fencer reregistered · Post #226 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:07 am

Floody100 wrote:
steefP2 wrote:Just bet Bjelica. Solves bench scoring, shooting and is an actual pf sized pf. Poirier, Semi and a pick works on the trade machine. Kings look like they're ready to give up on this season. Also Bjelica is signed through next year as well.

No other potential move i've seen makes more sense then that. It's low risk, high reward and also frees up a roster spot for a buyout guy if someone ends up being available. I'm gonna go nuts if this doesn't happen.

Actually scratch my trade idea, add Burks with Bjelica & I’d be happy.

What's the point of getting Burks?

steefP2 · Post #227 » by **steefP2** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:56 am

Fencer reregistered wrote:
Floody100 wrote:
steefP2 wrote:Just bet Bjelica. Solves bench scoring, shooting and is an actual pf sized pf. Poirier, Semi and a pick works on the trade machine. Kings look like they're ready to give up on this season. Also Bjelica is signed through next year as well.

No other potential move i've seen makes more sense then that. It's low risk, high reward and also frees up a roster spot for a buyout guy if someone ends up being available. I'm gonna go nuts if this doesn't happen.

Actually scratch my trade idea, add Burks with Bjelica & I’d be happy.

What's the point of getting Burks?

Yeah if we can get Bjelica, then we don’t need Burke, not to even mention that after trading semi and poirier, you actually start having to give up some value for Burks. Who you gonna trade ? Langford ? Grant ? You don’t trade (even if they’re only somewhat promising) rookies for bench scorer rentals.

steefP2 · Post #228 » by **steefP2** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:03 am

I wouldn’t mind taking a run at getting Etwaun Moore either if other trades don’t work out. Decent combo guard who is high effort and a good shooter. Not gonna solve anything big but could be helpful and should come at a low cost. Haven’t checked his salary tho.

chrisab123 · Post #229 » by **chrisab123** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:27 pm

I wouldn't mind giving Wanamaker filler and a 1st to Detroit for Derrick Rose. More scoring off the bench is a good thing. But I'm really of the thought that the Celtics will once again stand pat.

islandkid12 · Post #230 » by **islandkid12** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:54 pm

Captain_Caveman wrote:
islandkid12 wrote:There's absolutely no way Hayward opts out. He's not getting 30mil anywhere else and he knows that.

We literally do this thread every year. I don't gamble, but would an exception for this free money. You 100% opt out unless you are majorly injured. He can easily get 3/75, and likely a lot more. Which makes it a no-brainer.

You think so? I mean I just don't believe the market is high for someone like him. Just watching him play, there's no way.. who are the free agent wings this summer?

klemen4 · Post #231 » by **klemen4** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:02 pm

We are 7 deep plus Semi on Giannis when we will play Bucks.

Need 2 more bench guys:

- scoring sg
- pf

Teams do not go more than 9 -10 deep in playoffs.

Our and Bucks pick plus fillers should be made available for trade. Low first and 2nd round picks are overated...we have more than enough young guys.

winsomme2 · Post #232 » by **winsomme2** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:04 pm

steefP2 wrote:Just bet Bjelica. Solves bench scoring, shooting and is an actual pf sized pf. Poirier, Semi and a pick works on the trade machine. Kings look like they're ready to give up on this season. Also Bjelica is signed through next year as well.

No other potential move i've seen makes more sense then that. It's low risk, high reward and also frees up a roster spot for a buyout guy if someone ends up being available. I'm gonna go nuts if this doesn't happen.

Markieff Morris does the same and might be more gettable.

sam_I_am · Post #233 » by **sam_I_am** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:09 pm

Derrick Rose is not what we need. We need a veteran but a complimentary piece, not another guy who needs the ball to be effective. A shooter and a legit PF with size to upgrade over Semi and Grant. Bertans would be perfect get on offense. I don’t know Bjelica but he sound alright too. Thad Young salary is too much but a guy like him who defends well would be ideal.

Wannamaker has been a surprise as a tough scorer but he isn’t a great playmaker. However, if we got an athletic defensive PF with decent 3 pt shot....I would be okay with Waters getting a promotion to be backup playmaker.

Post #234 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:48 pm

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1931988

A Rockets fan is proposing a Hayward + Filler for Capela + Filler deal. Obviously the exact filler can be negotiated, but this is a deal I would be all for.

celticgreenie · Post #235 » by **celticgreenie** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:09 pm

Hayward for Augustin and Gordon works on trade machine. Augustin provides some nice scoring off the bench and Gordon's ability to guard positions 1-5 would be invaluable in the playoffs. Just don't know what kind of sweetener Orlando would want in terms of a draft pick or young player on our current squad.
Here's an article about Augustin from last year:
https://www.nba.com/magic/3-areas-dj-augustin-helped-magic-most-2018-19-20190514

steefP2 · Post #236 » by **steefP2** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:16 pm

winsomme2 wrote:
steefP2 wrote:Just bet Bjelica. Solves bench scoring, shooting and is an actual pf sized pf. Poirier, Semi and a pick works on the trade machine. Kings look like they're ready to give up on this season. Also Bjelica is signed through next year as well.

No other potential move i've seen makes more sense then that. It's low risk, high reward and also frees up a roster spot for a buyout guy if someone ends up being available. I'm gonna go nuts if this doesn't happen.

Markieff Morris does the same and might be more gettable.

Markieff is definitely more gettable, i won't argue that. But in my opinion, he's a significantly worse offensive player then Bjelica. There's a legit difference between having a decent 3 point shot and being the kind of shooter Bjelica is. Dude shoots 40+% on a bunch of attempts, has Curry-esque range and has a much more versatile jump shot. Morris is fine for hitting open 3 point looks that he gets of other guys penetrating but he's a dependent player. Bjelica can create, has decent handling and passing for his size and can just rain down 3's. Defensively Markieff might be better, not a 100% sure on Bjelica's defense but it's probably pretty poor. I don't think Markieff is some world beater on D tho.

So yeah more gettable/realistic for sure but I'd 100% try for Bjelica first. I wouldn't be upset with Markieff tho as a consolation. His case is also helped that you'd only need to give up Poirier and a second or so probably since he only makes like 3 mil.

Post #237 » by **snowman** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:19 pm

I have recently been leaning toward the "Trade Hayward" bandwagon during this last skid. After last nights game, I have changed my mind again. I truly hate to buy high and sell low if I don't have to. If I were Danny, I would not touch our top 7, (Our 5 starters, Smart and Kanter) or 8 when R. Williams becomes healthy. I would also like to keep Langford, Green and G. Williams around because the do show promise. With that being said, Semi, Wannamaker, Poirier, Edwards seriously need to be looked at in a potential deal along with all 3 picks to get a couple better vets for bench help. I still like the M.Morris and D. Rose from Detroit to bolster the bench. D. Rose and M. Morris are exactly what we need off the bench to take over scoring when the starters are resting. Sometimes we can score at all, and go through long drouts when there is only 1 starter in the game. Smart and Kanter have held their own at times, but a bench of Smart, D. Rose, M. Morris and Kanter could score on any team. This would also give the rookies left, (Langford, G. Williams Green time to learn, and R. Williams to heal.

edit: To get both Morris and Rose, G. Williams would need to replace Wannamaker is proposed deal to work on trade checker. I would still do it, but only add in 1 1st and 1 2nd.

100proof · Post #238 » by **100proof** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:21 pm

celticgreenie wrote:Hayward for Augustin and Gordon works on trade machine. Augustin provides some nice scoring off the bench and Gordon's ability to guard positions 1-5 would be invaluable in the playoffs. Just don't know what kind of sweetener Orlando would want in terms of a draft pick or young player on our current squad.
Here's an article about Augustin from last year:
https://www.nba.com/magic/3-areas-dj-augustin-helped-magic-most-2018-19-20190514

Still would like a center upgrade with the remaining roster. But i think Aaron would be brilliant with the jays and kemba.

The size and ability to defend sg-pf would be the best in the league imo. And center wouldnt be as much of a void with gordon manning the pf spot.

Then augustine, smart, kanter all off bench is very solid.

Backup sf and pf are weak but hopefully manageable with
Grant, robert, langford, semi, green filling the void.

robdog_5 · Post #239 » by **robdog_5** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:21 pm

I'd be down with
A Bjelica or
B Markeiff

Also Brad seemed to be playoff lineup yesterday and Wanamaker wasnt on floor much. If hes not in rotation at all we have pretty tight rotation. 8 man is not unique in playoffs and Kanter, Bjelica and Smart is good bench. Ojeyle in matchups is fine too. Wouldnt mind seeing a PG in there possibly

steefP2 · Post #240 » by **steefP2** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:21 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1931988

A Rockets fan is proposing a Hayward + Filler for Capela + Filler deal. Obviously the exact filler can be negotiated, but this is a deal I would be all for.

I get why people would be attracted to this but i'm not convinced. Capela doesn't put us over the top imo right now, especially when you factor in us being without Hayward then. He's a good rebounder but rebounding is not a huge problem. He's a decent switch defender but that's also not a real issue. Post defense would be upgraded somewhat but it's hard to convince me that marginal difference is worth Hayward. He's not gonna stop Embiid or Giannis. He might be more effective then what we have atm but the margin is too narrow imo.

Also im still half convinced that Robert Williams is as good or better in like 2 years...