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2022 NBA Draft Thread – (June 23rd, 8PM, ESPN)

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Post#221 » by Scoonie » Fri Apr 1, 2022 2:48 pm

CU Buffs sophomore Jabari Walker declares for NBA Draft, but maintains eligibility

https://denvergazette.com/sports/cu-buffs-sophomore-jabari-walker-declares-for-nba-draft-but-maintains-eligibility/article_c772c793-df2a-5983-a618-2b7e7cd405c2.html

Celts need to give him a long look. Really like his skills and potential as a sweet-shooting four man.
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Post#222 » by Scoonie » Fri Apr 1, 2022 2:49 pm

playa-hater wrote:I do believe my oldest son may/would have been drafted in "rd 3" back in 2010. vs going overseas and hustling all over the place. I like the security and knowledge of having been drafted vs not. Just my opinion.


Wow, I have no idea who your son is. But how is he doing these days? Still playing professionally?
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Post#223 » by Larry_Russell » Fri Apr 1, 2022 2:53 pm

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Hal14 wrote:I'm not super high on Minott. Shot 14% from 3 this season. Only played 14 mins a game for a memphis team that was good but not THAT good. Good size, really athletic but not enough skill, too raw, he should go back to school IMO..

Yeah, I saw the college stats, or lack thereof. If he comes out and the D/motor part is real, I'd take a shot as a 2-way roll of the dice and hope the shooting comes around. Obviously depending on who else is out there.

If we're talking about guys who are young and athletic, high upside picks. A guy who gets a 2-way contract, spends most of next season in g-league but has really high potential long term, I'm taking Dominick Barlow.

-6'9" with a 7'1" wingspan
-Only 18 yrs old - turns 19 in May
-Shot 33% from 3 this season, but showed rapid improvement with his 3 ball over the course of the season after starting off 1/12 from 3. Had a game later in the year where had dropped 27 points and hit 5/6 from 3
-Really good, versatile defender
-Plays with a fire, intensity, urgency
-Can put the ball on the floor and either take it to the rim, or pull up and hit jumper from mid range or from 3
-Solid passer
-It's honestly hard to find anything to not like about Barlow as a prospect. He's very underrated. Jeremy Sochan is a projected lottery pick - I'm a big fan of Sochan as a prospect but there's nothing he does on a basketball court that Barlow can't do, Barlow is same size and same age. Yet Sochan is projected lottery and Barlow is projected late 2nd round or undrafted. Barlow could be a steal.

Oh and he played the 2020-2021 season at Bridgton Academy in Maine, so he's already familiar with northern new england - and maine specifically..

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Post#224 » by playa-hater » Fri Apr 1, 2022 3:55 pm

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playa-hater wrote:I do believe my oldest son may/would have been drafted in "rd 3" back in 2010. vs going overseas and hustling all over the place. I like the security and knowledge of having been drafted vs not. Just my opinion.


Wow, I have no idea who your son is. But how is he doing these days? Still playing professionally?


Played in England, Spain mostly. bad luck with some injuries. happily retired and enjoying life in NYC. can't say his name, want to save him some embarrassment of having a "crazy father" On-line here. 8-)
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Post#225 » by playa-hater » Fri Apr 1, 2022 3:59 pm

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djFan71 wrote:Yeah, I saw the college stats, or lack thereof. If he comes out and the D/motor part is real, I'd take a shot as a 2-way roll of the dice and hope the shooting comes around. Obviously depending on who else is out there.

If we're talking about guys who are young and athletic, high upside picks. A guy who gets a 2-way contract, spends most of next season in g-league but has really high potential long term, I'm taking Dominick Barlow.

-6'9" with a 7'1" wingspan
-Only 18 yrs old - turns 19 in May
-Shot 33% from 3 this season, but showed rapid improvement with his 3 ball over the course of the season after starting off 1/12 from 3. Had a game later in the year where had dropped 27 points and hit 5/6 from 3
-Really good, versatile defender
-Plays with a fire, intensity, urgency
-Can put the ball on the floor and either take it to the rim, or pull up and hit jumper from mid range or from 3
-Solid passer
-It's honestly hard to find anything to not like about Barlow as a prospect. He's very underrated. Jeremy Sochan is a projected lottery pick - I'm a big fan of Sochan as a prospect but there's nothing he does on a basketball court that Barlow can't do, Barlow is same size and same age. Yet Sochan is projected lottery and Barlow is projected late 2nd round or undrafted. Barlow could be a steal.

Oh and he played the 2020-2021 season at Bridgton Academy in Maine, so he's already familiar with northern new england - and maine specifically..

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I am just happy there are more posters talking Prospects on here. Feel Hal and I were a 2 man show last. I have always believed there are Gems in every draft class. Just have to find them.
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Post#226 » by Half-Full » Fri Apr 1, 2022 10:56 pm

I like this guy, Dereon Seabron. Yes, he has some issues, primarily shooting, but he's certainly very good at taking it to the rim, and can score through contact. Good size, wingspan, athleticism.



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Post#227 » by playa-hater » Sun Apr 3, 2022 2:58 am

I want Brady manek... Love the versatility and his guts.. That beard has to go however
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Post#228 » by playa-hater » Sun Apr 3, 2022 3:05 am

I just saw Caleb love mocked in the 2nd round, how the f*** is that possible
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Post#229 » by Hal14 » Sun Apr 3, 2022 8:06 pm

playa-hater wrote:I just saw Caleb love mocked in the 2nd round, how the f*** is that possible

He's mocked lower because he had a rough freshman season last year, he's been kind of inconsistent this year (he'll have big games like the one last night but other games where he's a dud) and often times his D has been bad.

But it seems like he's gotten more consistent and better on D here in the 2nd half of the season.

When he's on (like he was last night) the dude is a bucket. I can see him having a solid career as like a jamal Crawford / Herro / Lou Williams type guy. Come in off the bench and drop 13-15 points a game.

With the way he's been playing lately, I highly doubt he'll still be there when we pick. I'm guessing he goes somewhere in the 27-37 range.. if LOve has another big game in the title game on Monday, he could solidify his place as a 1st round pick..
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Post#230 » by Homerclease » Sun Apr 3, 2022 9:26 pm

I wouldn’t hate them trying to buy a late first for Walker Kessler who just declared. Legit NBA size at the 5 which they lack and not just a garbage man on offense either
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Post#231 » by Hal14 » Sun Apr 3, 2022 9:28 pm

This guy is so good and so underrated..

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Post#232 » by playa-hater » Mon Apr 4, 2022 2:42 am

Homerclease wrote:I wouldn’t hate them trying to buy a late first for Walker Kessler who just declared. Legit NBA size at the 5 which they lack and not just a garbage man on offense either


Love the idea.. even buying a 2nd would make me happy.
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Post#233 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Wed Apr 6, 2022 6:58 pm

ESPN's post NCAA tournament mock draft has the Celtics picking Matteo Spagnolo. Procida goes with the next pick so I guess we landed in the Italian corner of the mock draft :lol:

Don't know much about him but he is a 6'4/6'5 point guard that just turned 19 and shoots 45% on threes and 87% from the line (his percentages from two are not great however). Can stash him in Europe for a while too. There are worse flyers to take at that stage of the draft.
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Post#234 » by Hal14 » Wed Apr 6, 2022 10:21 pm

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:ESPN's post NCAA tournament mock draft has the Celtics picking Matteo Spagnolo. Procida goes with the next pick so I guess we landed in the Italian corner of the mock draft :lol:

Don't know much about him but he is a 6'4/6'5 point guard that just turned 19 and shoots 45% on threes and 87% from the line (his percentages from two are not great however). Can stash him in Europe for a while too. There are worse flyers to take at that stage of the draft.

If he really hits, Spagnolo's ceiling is being the next Drazen Petrovic. He legit could end up being that good.

As i'm sure we all know, Petrovic is a hall of famer. One of the best international players ever. 1x all-star but would've made many more all star games than that if he hadn't been killed tragically in a car accident.

So Spagnolo has really good upside. But he also has a lot to work on, not sure how realistic it is for him to reach that ceiling. And not. sure if we will want to take a PG (again). Would kind of rather grab someone with more size, more defense and physicality like a Gabe Brown, Dominick Barlow or Kevin McCullar Jr.

But if Spagnolo is still there, he has to be considered. PG's with his size and skill level at such a young age do not grow on trees. I think he (and Procida) will probably be off the board before our pick, though..
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Post#235 » by BostonCouchGM » Thu Apr 7, 2022 12:39 am

there's a slew of potential draft and stash guys who should be there and I'm good with taking that approach if they have high achievable upside. If we keep the pick and use it and hope for a contributor I'd try to find the next Theis and take Trayce Jackson-Davis. He's got that 6'9" size with good athleticism. He can pass a little and averaged 2 blocks a game. Caught a couple of his games and he hustles and just knows where he's supposed to be and who he is as a player. We need a #8 or #9 contributor with size.

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Post#236 » by jfs1000d » Thu Apr 7, 2022 3:09 am

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playa-hater wrote:Some may disagree but I feel the game of basketball has grown so much especially worldwide that the NBA should go back to having at least 3 rounds of draft. Young players can be sent to the G league but there is just too much talent, That not everyone can get drafted in every 60 picks per year

i would agree - if there were more teams in the league.

As it it right now, though - there's actually several good players who were 1st round picks in 2021 (moses moody, james bouknight, kai jones, jalen johnson, usman garuba, jaden springer, etc) who have spent basically the entire season in g league - let alone the guys who just got picked in the 2nd round.

I'm with you in that there's way more than 60 guys good enough to be drafted this year (and last year) but there's just not enough roster spots for everyone if they expanded it to 3 rounds - not with so many decent veteran players out there - and with guys like horford, tucker, lowry, lebron who play until they're 50 lol.

There's already been talks for awhile now about expansion (putting a team back in seattle, putting a team in Vegas, etc.). I think you could definitely add another 2 teams, maybe 4 without the talent being diluted much.


Not saying any 3rd rd pick would need to make the team right way. that's what the G league is for. But it would allow teams with a good eye for drafting while paying some nice talent, keeping them away from overseas and developing them in a way that would benefit what the team wants/needs.

I do believe my oldest son may/would have been drafted in "rd 3" back in 2010. vs going overseas and hustling all over the place. I like the security and knowledge of having been drafted vs not. Just my opinion.

Players unions won’t allow it. Agents want players free to choose where they play. Too much control for teams.


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Post#237 » by Hal14 » Thu Apr 7, 2022 1:15 pm

BostonCouchGM wrote:there's a slew of potential draft and stash guys who should be there and I'm good with taking that approach if they have high achievable upside. If we keep the pick and use it and hope for a contributor I'd try to find the next Theis and take Trayce Jackson-Davis. He's got that 6'9" size with good athleticism. He can pass a little and averaged 2 blocks a game. Caught a couple of his games and he hustles and just knows where he's supposed to be and who he is as a player. We need a #8 or #9 contributor with size.


Jackson-Davis is certainly a possibility, if we decide to draft a big man with this pick.

The thing i like about Jackson-Davis is he really fits the physical profile of a modern big. What I mean by that is, we're seeing a trend in these past few years where teams are more frequently going with a "small ball 5". Or, teams have a big man like Clint Capela, Bam Adebayo, Robert Williams, Richaun Holmes, etc. All of these guys are between 6'8"-6'10". Most of the top centers in the league right now are actually under 7'0". Gobert and Embiid are pretty much the only good centers who are 7'0" or taller.

The trend is smaller, but quicker, more mobile, more athletic centers. But not TOO small. Ideally guys who are like 6'9" or 6'10". 6'11" might be ok, but often times guys who are 6'11" or taller these days, they're just not mobile enough to get up and down the floor, to keep up with the faster pace, to cover the increased spacing on the floor, to move laterally on switches, etc.

The guys who are bigger but not as mobile, these are the guys who we're seeing more and more are sitting on the bench late in games and in the playoffs.

Jackson-Davis might seem to people to be undersized big man but IMO he's just right for the modern game. He's 6'9" with a 7'2" wingspan, 245 lbs and a 37" vertical leap. VERY quick/mobile/agile. Really athletic. Very active in the paint, on both ends of the floor.

Goes hard after rebounds, aggressively attacks the basket when going up for shots inside, has good footwork and an array of spins, up and unders, etc to get his shot off near the basket. Good shot blocker. He'll make some highlight reel dunks, dunking on dude's heads. He's a lob threat, can set screens and showed improved passing as this season went on.

And there's a decent chance he'll still be there when we pick. Why is he being mocked lower? Age (he just turned 22 so on the older side) and lack of a perimeter skill set when it comes to shooting and taking his man off the dribble. He just doesn't do those things but hey, neither does Time Lord and he's doing great.

Jackson-Davis could carve out a solid career as a good solid backup big man. High energy, high motor.
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Post#238 » by Scoonie » Thu Apr 7, 2022 1:48 pm

Dale Davis is Trayce Jackson-Davis's biological father, so he has the NBA genes. Looks like he has solid size, power, and athleticism.

Would be nice to see a perimeter shot as well.
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Post#239 » by Hal14 » Thu Apr 7, 2022 4:54 pm

Scoonie wrote:Dale Davis is Trayce Jackson-Davis's biological father, so he has the NBA genes. Looks like he has solid size, power, and athleticism.

Would be nice to see a perimeter shot as well.

Didn't know that but makes sense, given they are similar in size. Also, Jackson-Davis played college ball at Indiana, where Dale played most of his NBA career. And Jackson-Davis definitely has a toughness to him, like Dale.
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Post#240 » by Patsfan1081 » Thu Apr 7, 2022 7:23 pm

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Homerclease wrote:I wouldn’t hate them trying to buy a late first for Walker Kessler who just declared. Legit NBA size at the 5 which they lack and not just a garbage man on offense either


Love the idea.. even buying a 2nd would make me happy.




I like Kessler, Baldwin could slip too because of the injury. I want upside if they end up doing that. They only have 10/11 guys under contract for next season so its not like they couldnt use an extra pick to fill out cheaply. Seems like theyre could be more international talent in the second then past seasons though. Wouldnt be surprised to see Brad do another draft and stash……

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