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Green89 wrote:Shak_Celts wrote:Feed Your Head wrote:The closest thing to a damning statement you’ll get from me is yeah, I do have some concerns about Joe’s feel for the game lol.
I got some things to say but I'm going to hold them because I'm already down. I need a pick-me-up!
Uh, oh, I'm going to spoiler my post because it definitely isn't a pick me up.Spoiler:
Green89 wrote:MagicBagley18 wrote:Green89 wrote:
Yup, let's coach on what a guy's done "throughout the years" and ignore recent stats.There should be no "automatic" here or "he's earned it" junk. Smart is not the same on defense this season, and he's just not good on offensive possessions in a game's final seconds.
Even with his below DPOY defense, I'd still have him out there on the defensive end. Just not on the offensive side. If the game dictates it with no stoppage that's one thing, but it's another thing when you have him out there after a Timeout, and a whole other level if the play called involves him.
I saw multiple big plays tonight…
But the end result was a loss, as was the Atlanta loss where we relied on him too heavily on final possessions.
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:MagicBagley18 wrote:Green89 wrote:
Yup, let's coach on what a guy's done "throughout the years" and ignore recent stats.
Even with his below DPOY defense, I'd still have him out there on the defensive end. Just not on the offensive side. If the game dictates it with no stoppage that's one thing, but it's another thing when you have him out there after a Timeout, and a whole other level if the play called involves him.
I saw multiple big plays tonight…
Multiple turnovers too...
SuperDeluxe wrote:They were bound to give a game away or two in this series. They might as well do it to start, so they can get their **** together early.
We sucked, but we don't suck.
Celts in 6 at the most.
snowman wrote:I hate to say this, and I TRULY hope I'm wrong. But I believe we will never win a championship with Smart as the starting point guard. Too many dumb decisions, too many times trying to make a high lite play, and too much flopping or fake hustle plays. I'm not saying he needs to go, but he would be better coming off the bench, but if we could get good value, I would move him. Also, what I mean by fake hustle plays, is diving on the floor when you have no chance at the ball or flopping on a drive trying to draw a foul and putting the team in a 4 on 5 disadvantage on the defensive end. He can be a truly great defensive player, but he needs to make great plays to make up for the bonehead ones. I mean he had as many turnovers as the entire sixer team tonight and his defense on Harden was nowhere near where it should have been.
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:MagicBagley18 wrote:
I saw multiple big plays tonight…
Multiple turnovers too...
And yet none as bad as brogdons…
MagicBagley18 wrote:bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:MagicBagley18 wrote:
I saw multiple big plays tonight…
Multiple turnovers too...
And yet none as bad as brogdons…
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:
What play exactly did Joe draw up where Smart and JT were that confused?
Celts17Pride wrote:People always like to blame this player or that player. Bottom line is the Celtics as a team didn't defend the whole night long, kept turning the ball over (16 turnovers) especially in crunch time and made zero defensive adjustments the whole night long until it was too late.
That's the reason why the Celtics lost. Pretty simple
Bird84 wrote:Celts17Pride wrote:People always like to blame this player or that player. Bottom line is the Celtics as a team didn't defend the whole night long, kept turning the ball over (16 turnovers) especially in crunch time and made zero defensive adjustments the whole night long until it was too late.
That's the reason why the Celtics lost. Pretty simple
And there doesn't seem to be any sign that they'll start to play any defense any time soon.
Celts17Pride wrote:Bird84 wrote:Celts17Pride wrote:People always like to blame this player or that player. Bottom line is the Celtics as a team didn't defend the whole night long, kept turning the ball over (16 turnovers) especially in crunch time and made zero defensive adjustments the whole night long until it was too late.
That's the reason why the Celtics lost. Pretty simple
And there doesn't seem to be any sign that they'll start to play any defense any time soon.
That's up to the Celtics. Do you want to win or not?
Setshot33 wrote:Marvel wrote:Tatum again with a no show in the 4th. Really getting hard to root for this guy.
How many times do fans have to witness this before they figure out he's not the man?
When's the last time he ever took over a game late in the playoffs? No grit.
lon3lytoaster wrote:The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:
What play exactly did Joe draw up where Smart and JT were that confused?
A reenactment;
“Alright we’re going to inbound the ball to Marcus.”
Great, coach! And then?
“Huh? Take what the defense gives you. Use good judgement. Keep that edge. Glhf!”
Probably something like that
Hilarious. The sad part is the actual truth probably isn't that far off from that. Green89 wrote:MagicBagley18 wrote:bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:
Multiple turnovers too...
And yet none as bad as brogdons…
You failed Math, right?
Brogdon's 1 turnover led to 2 Sixer points.
Smart's 6 turnovers led to 6 Sixer points.
Green89 wrote:MagicBagley18 wrote:bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:
Multiple turnovers too...
And yet none as bad as brogdons…
You failed Math, right?
Brogdon's 1 turnover led to 2 Sixer points.
Smart's 6 turnovers led to 6 Sixer points.
Not to mention, Brogdon had to get rid of the ball and forced it with under a second left on the shot clock; he shouldn't have had the ball that late in the clock.