Celts Can't Pull a Rabbit Out of Their Hat! Loss vs ORL 11/24

[BK_2020]

The idea that Tatum was passive is again just deranged reconstruction of fans. Other than a couple of plays which were clearly designed for Tatum to be a decoy, and transitions for other players or plays where Jaylen just took it upon himself to be the offense, Tatum was at the center of halfcourt creation in the 4th. He was essentially either shooting or making the last or the second to last pass in a shooting chain in 50% of all possessions, and something like 11 of 14 halfcourt possessions. You'd be hard pressed to see Harden or Lebron or Luka have that much offensive load.

Here's the breakdown of offensive possessions in the 4th.

1st - Tatum drives into the middle and passes to cutting Brissett for freethrows.
2nd - Play obviously designed for non-Tatum players. Tatum stands in the wings while the rest of the team goes 4 on 4.
3rd - Play obviously designed for non-Tatum players.
4th - Tatum backs down #2 but sees Horford with a mismatch. Horford posts up Ingles but travels.
5th - Jaylen goes coast to coast, 1-2 from the line.
6th - Jaylen airballs a midrange.
7th - Tatum hits trailing Horford in semi-transition who passes to Hauser in the corner for a 3.
8th - Tatum sees Hauser wide open in the corner before he even crosses the half court line. Miss.
9th - Tatum wide open pull up three. Miss.
10th - Tatum drives baseline against Franz for 2 freethrows.
11th - Tatum drives middle for a layup.
12th - White pnr, 2 freethrows
13th - Jaylen the first player to touch the ball cross the half court line, takes an ill-advised pull up three
14th - Jaylen misses a layup in transition
15th - White misses a layup in semi-transition
16th - Tatum posts up and drives baseline against Franz for a layup.
17th - White transition layup, gets 2 free throws.
18th - White drives and kicks out to Jaylen, miss.
19th - Tatum 2 free throws in transition.
20th - Tatum drives against Franz, 2 fee throws.
21st - Tatum against JI. Fakes him out and draws a foul. Free throws.
22nd - Jaylen the only player to touch the ball. Drives and throws up a runner that bricks.
23rd - Magic slow to get back. White semi-transition layup. Gets free throws.
Game over.

How do you know this? Lmao this is major cope

End of the day, when you don't shoot at all and your teammates on the court are Hauser, PP, Horford and Oshae, you're failing at your job unless you're getting double-teamed every time. He wasn't.

Jaylen's awful shooting is hurtig the offense a lot, but acting like Tatum's passiveness is not an issue is laughable at this point

You know it by having eyes. I wish there was a nicer way of saying this but there isn't.

[GoCeltics123]

The idea that Tatum was passive is again just deranged reconstruction of fans. Other than a couple of plays which were clearly designed for Tatum to be a decoy, and transitions for other players or plays where Jaylen just took it upon himself to be the offense, Tatum was at the center of halfcourt creation in the 4th. He was essentially either shooting or making the last or the second to last pass in a shooting chain in 50% of all possessions, and something like 11 of 14 halfcourt possessions. You'd be hard pressed to see Harden or Lebron or Luka have that much offensive load.

Here's the breakdown of offensive possessions in the 4th.

1st - Tatum drives into the middle and passes to cutting Brissett for freethrows.
2nd - Play obviously designed for non-Tatum players. Tatum stands in the wings while the rest of the team goes 4 on 4.
3rd - Play obviously designed for non-Tatum players.
4th - Tatum backs down #2 but sees Horford with a mismatch. Horford posts up Ingles but travels.
5th - Jaylen goes coast to coast, 1-2 from the line.
6th - Jaylen airballs a midrange.
7th - Tatum hits trailing Horford in semi-transition who passes to Hauser in the corner for a 3.
8th - Tatum sees Hauser wide open in the corner before he even crosses the half court line. Miss.
9th - Tatum wide open pull up three. Miss.
10th - Tatum drives baseline against Franz for 2 freethrows.
11th - Tatum drives middle for a layup.
12th - White pnr, 2 freethrows
13th - Jaylen the first player to touch the ball cross the half court line, takes an ill-advised pull up three
14th - Jaylen misses a layup in transition
15th - White misses a layup in semi-transition
16th - Tatum posts up and drives baseline against Franz for a layup.
17th - White transition layup, gets 2 free throws.
18th - White drives and kicks out to Jaylen, miss.
19th - Tatum 2 free throws in transition.
20th - Tatum drives against Franz, 2 fee throws.
21st - Tatum against JI. Fakes him out and draws a foul. Free throws.
22nd - Jaylen the only player to touch the ball. Drives and throws up a runner that bricks.
23rd - Magic slow to get back. White semi-transition layup. Gets free throws.
Game over.

How do you know this? Lmao this is major cope

End of the day, when you don't shoot at all and your teammates on the court are Hauser, PP, Horford and Oshae, you're failing at your job unless you're getting double-teamed every time. He wasn't.

Jaylen's awful shooting is hurtig the offense a lot, but acting like Tatum's passiveness is not an issue is laughable at this point

You know it by having eyes. I wish there was a nicer way of saying this but there isn't.

Lmao I get you have an agenda and you don't like Jaylen, and believe me I agree Jaylen is a much bigger issue than Tatum, but sometimes boiling down a team's problems to one thing is very dumb!

I watched the 4th quarter too. Tatum passed out of two pick and rolls to let PP run two in a row in a big spot. He didn't want to shoot in a spot we badly needed him to.

It is what it is. Hopefully he shoots more today.

[BK_2020]

Lmao I get you have an agenda and you don't like Jaylen, and believe me I agree Jaylen is a much bigger issue than Tatum, but sometimes boiling down a team's problems to one thing is very dumb!

I watched the 4th quarter too. Tatum passed out of two pick and rolls to let PP run two in a row in a big spot. He didn't want to shoot in a spot we badly needed him to.

It is what it is. Hopefully he shoots more today.

I agree with you on the broader point that Tatum got shut down by Isaac. I mean, Isaac is like 6'11 and has infinite wingspan, and can move like a wing, and freed from scoring responsibilities he can put 100% of his energy into defense. It's hard to score on him. I think that's why Joe had Tatum be the decoy in those 2 possessions. Either way we had a hard time scoring, but it's two different ways of diagnosing the issue. The "Tatum is passive" crew thinks the problem is moral. Tatum just needs to become a better person in order for the Celtics to score a bunch more points in the paint against the best NBA defenses. I think it's a little more nuanced than that. I think it's more to do with Tatum's limitations as a scorer and passer, which is amplified by Jaylen's greater limitations in those 2 areas.