2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition)

[fallguy]

I mean, you listen to offers on everybody all the time. I'm sure there are a lot of teams that would like to have Jaylen or white. But I still think there's only a very, very, VERY small chance either guy gets moved. Especially after the C's have already gotten out of the 2nd apron, the pressure to move money is much lower now.

A Tatum/Brown/White core has proven to be a championship contender if you can put some decent role players around them. If you trade one of those guys you may spend a significant amount of time chasing their replacement, I don't know why you'd do that when you can just roll with the gap year next season then go right back to contending if you make some prudent moves in the summer of 2026.

So by all means listen, but to me to move either guy takes a deal better than the Bridges to NYK or Bane to ORL deals. It needs to be insane. I doubt such a deal is out there.

It is a bit weird how public it is that they're listening on DW and JB.

JB has not been chill about this in the past.

[RickyDizzle]

I was anti it prior to the Porzingis trade. But honestly now I am seriously thinking we should consider it.

I just don’t see us miraculously pulling similar players out of our ass.

I expected us to get some sort of asset for Porzingis.

We ended up with Porzingis and Holiday because of the assets we had in Rob, Marcus, Brogdon etc.

We don’t miraculously find assets like that now to obtain more talent on the roster.

I think we may well be in for a **** show of a time now.

But the Celtics STILL HAVE ASSETS. Anfernee Simons is a 26 year old 20ppg scorer. Hauser is on a very valuable long term deal, as is Pritchard. I think either guy could get you at least a first round pick, maybe even a decent one. They have last years #30 in Schierman along with #28 and #32 to trade this year. They have all their own firsts moving forward except in 2029. They have added financial flexibility with Jrue and KP off the books.

The assets may not be elite, but they have enough to fill out a team around Tatum/White/Brown, it just won't be next year. Next year is a "bridge" year, it is what it is.

Hauser needs to be traded. They have Scheirman and Petersen, who may be able to take those minutes. Are they as good as Hauser? It they can do the job and are cheaper.


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If we're under the 2nd apron, why trade a good player on a good contract? I think Hauser is at best a decent 5th starter, at worst a great 7 or 8th man... he's paid like the latter. Just keep him. He's useful, young, and properly paid.

[jfs1000d]

I am all over the place.

Listening to Simmons and Mannix on BS POD, they did a good job of breaking things down. You want to be able to make a move in summer of 26 when Tatum returns. You can’t be over the second apron either. It makes it impossible to get better.

Simmons also said Simons and Pritch shooting 3s will
Be insane as both are ridiculous heat check type shooters.

Then, I look at how ridiculous the penalties are and the second apron a problem. Brown is an all nba player, and he is on the super max, but I think Boston is the only team in the league with two supermax players. I don’t think you can pay a player the super max if he isnt an mvp caliber player. Brown on a max deal is tough but ok, but super max is insane. I think thunder gonna have that issue too and I think the mavericks decided they didn’t want to pay Luka that much b cause it would be impossible to compete due to the repeater penalties.


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[keevsnick1]

I mean, you listen to offers on everybody all the time. I'm sure there are a lot of teams that would like to have Jaylen or white. But I still think there's only a very, very, VERY small chance either guy gets moved. Especially after the C's have already gotten out of the 2nd apron, the pressure to move money is much lower now.

A Tatum/Brown/White core has proven to be a championship contender if you can put some decent role players around them. If you trade one of those guys you may spend a significant amount of time chasing their replacement, I don't know why you'd do that when you can just roll with the gap year next season then go right back to contending if you make some prudent moves in the summer of 2026.

So by all means listen, but to me to move either guy takes a deal better than the Bridges to NYK or Bane to ORL deals. It needs to be insane. I doubt such a deal is out there.

It is a bit weird how public it is that they're listening on DW and JB.

JB has not been chill about this in the past.

Who says they've been public with it at all? For all we know its other teams telling Shams "We've made calls on White/Brown, they didn't hang up." Given how tight lipped the C"s currently are I'd be surprised if this is coming from them at all.

[keevsnick1]

But the Celtics STILL HAVE ASSETS. Anfernee Simons is a 26 year old 20ppg scorer. Hauser is on a very valuable long term deal, as is Pritchard. I think either guy could get you at least a first round pick, maybe even a decent one. They have last years #30 in Schierman along with #28 and #32 to trade this year. They have all their own firsts moving forward except in 2029. They have added financial flexibility with Jrue and KP off the books.

The assets may not be elite, but they have enough to fill out a team around Tatum/White/Brown, it just won't be next year. Next year is a "bridge" year, it is what it is.

Hauser needs to be traded. They have Scheirman and Petersen, who may be able to take those minutes. Are they as good as Hauser? It they can do the job and are cheaper.


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If we're under the 2nd apron, why trade a good player on a good contract? I think Hauser is at best a decent 5th starter, at worst a great 7 or 8th man... he's paid like the latter. Just keep him. He's useful, young, and properly paid.

The reason Hauser was speculated to be traded was because eh was one guy who you could get something of value for, rather than having to give something of value up to move. But as it turns out the C's were able to get under the apron without giving up assets, so there's really much less of a need to trade him now unless you get blow away by an offer.

Like if somebody wants to give you a late lottery pick maybe you listen, but otherwise his contract is too valuable for a team that going forward will be expensive again.

[fallguy]

I mean, you listen to offers on everybody all the time. I'm sure there are a lot of teams that would like to have Jaylen or white. But I still think there's only a very, very, VERY small chance either guy gets moved. Especially after the C's have already gotten out of the 2nd apron, the pressure to move money is much lower now.

A Tatum/Brown/White core has proven to be a championship contender if you can put some decent role players around them. If you trade one of those guys you may spend a significant amount of time chasing their replacement, I don't know why you'd do that when you can just roll with the gap year next season then go right back to contending if you make some prudent moves in the summer of 2026.

So by all means listen, but to me to move either guy takes a deal better than the Bridges to NYK or Bane to ORL deals. It needs to be insane. I doubt such a deal is out there.

It is a bit weird how public it is that they're listening on DW and JB.

JB has not been chill about this in the past.

Who says they've been public with it at all? For all we know its other teams telling Shams "We've made calls on White/Brown, they didn't hang up." Given how tight lipped the C"s currently are I'd be surprised if this is coming from them at all.

I didn't say they've been public. I said it's public.

Doesn't matter who it's coming from.

[FlatearthZorro]

By the way, there could be more trades. With Horfie and potentially Kornett leaving, plus maybe a rookie coming our way via the draft, I dunno if we could stay under the apron and sign 2 players, it could be razor thin.

[FlatearthZorro]

Shams confirms again Celtics are listening to offers on Brown and White. He’s not saying they will do it, but they have an ear to the phone in case they get blown away.

I wonder what’s brads definition of blown away for Jaylen.

#2, a young guy, fillers, maybe a lesser future FRP for Brown?

[Fierce1]

If they're trading JB and it's not Giannis, the minimum should be the #2 and #14 pick.

[ajones9219]

Lets get crazy. Since we can combine salaries now.

Brown and picks for Giannis.

Then flip Hauser/Niang for Vucevic

White/Simons/Tatum/Giannis/Vucevic (once Tatum is back)

Bench is horrible but see if you can get some vet mins to go with Pritch/Schierman/Horford

[djFan71]

If BOS rehomes Hauser for nothing, then deals Simons for PJ with DAL extra salary going elsewhere, they can have $5.5M to resign Kornet and duck the tax with 14 players.

Pritchard, White, Brown, PJ, Kornet
Pritchard, Scheierman, Walsh, Niang, Queta
Tillman, 28, 32
Tatum

Seems close enough that it's worth a try. Depending on whatever the heck happens tomorrow with draft trades. But it's an option.

[ajones9219]

If BOS rehomes Hauser for nothing, then deals Simons for PJ with DAL extra salary going elsewhere, they can have $5.5M to resign Kornet and duck the tax with 14 players.

Pritchard, White, Brown, PJ, Kornet
Pritchard, Scheierman, Walsh, Niang, Queta
Tillman, 28, 32
Tatum

Seems close enough that it's worth a try. Depending on whatever the heck happens tomorrow with draft trades. But it's an option.

I think it's more likely we keep Horford than Luke imo. He's been working out in Boston with Boston trainers and can be had for less. I think they end up keeping Simons as well and trade Niang/Hauser for either another big or to pair with picks to trade up tomorrow.

[jfs1000d]

If BOS rehomes Hauser for nothing, then deals Simons for PJ with DAL extra salary going elsewhere, they can have $5.5M to resign Kornet and duck the tax with 14 players.

Pritchard, White, Brown, PJ, Kornet
Pritchard, Scheierman, Walsh, Niang, Queta
Tillman, 28, 32
Tatum

Seems close enough that it's worth a try. Depending on whatever the heck happens tomorrow with draft trades. But it's an option.

I think it's more likely we keep Horford than Luke imo. He's been working out in Boston with Boston trainers and can be had for less. I think they end up keeping Simons as well and trade Niang/Hauser for either another big or to pair with picks to trade up tomorrow.

Remember they unlocked being able to aggregate in trades. But, they still don’t have a ton Of maneuverability. See if you can trade Hauser for future picks and a TPE and reduce salary. They still need to cut cut cut. Then try and work around that for a year.

It is either Hauser or Luke/Horford you can’t have both an Hauser a luxury at this point.


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[GrandTheftRondo]

So you want to trade brown? Like, with Tatum here, you better have a player that is as good as Brown here. You can’t sacrifice Tatum’s career by not having a good enough no. 2. You need players that are as good as Brown or project to be better in 2026-27 when Tatum returns full strength.

Not opposed. But I don’t want to bring in Amen Thompson only to have to pay him more than Brown is being paid when his contract is up.


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I was anti it prior to the Porzingis trade. But honestly now I am seriously thinking we should consider it.

I just don’t see us miraculously pulling similar players out of our ass.

I expected us to get some sort of asset for Porzingis.

We ended up with Porzingis and Holiday because of the assets we had in Rob, Marcus, Brogdon etc.

We don’t miraculously find assets like that now to obtain more talent on the roster.

I think we may well be in for a **** show of a time now.

But the Celtics STILL HAVE ASSETS. Anfernee Simons is a 26 year old 20ppg scorer. Hauser is on a very valuable long term deal, as is Pritchard. I think either guy could get you at least a first round pick, maybe even a decent one. They have last years #30 in Schierman along with #28 and #32 to trade this year. They have all their own firsts moving forward except in 2029. They have added financial flexibility with Jrue and KP off the books.

The assets may not be elite, but they have enough to fill out a team around Tatum/White/Brown, it just won't be next year. Next year is a "bridge" year, it is what it is.

Not sure I agree with your evaluation of our assets.

[ajones9219]

If BOS rehomes Hauser for nothing, then deals Simons for PJ with DAL extra salary going elsewhere, they can have $5.5M to resign Kornet and duck the tax with 14 players.

Pritchard, White, Brown, PJ, Kornet
Pritchard, Scheierman, Walsh, Niang, Queta
Tillman, 28, 32
Tatum

Seems close enough that it's worth a try. Depending on whatever the heck happens tomorrow with draft trades. But it's an option.

I think it's more likely we keep Horford than Luke imo. He's been working out in Boston with Boston trainers and can be had for less. I think they end up keeping Simons as well and trade Niang/Hauser for either another big or to pair with picks to trade up tomorrow.

Remember they unlocked being able to aggregate in trades. But, they still don’t have a ton Of maneuverability. See if you can trade Hauser for future picks and a TPE and reduce salary. They still need to cut cut cut. Then try and work around that for a year.

It is either Hauser or Luke/Horford you can’t have both an Hauser a luxury at this point.


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Yeah I am thinking they let Luke walk and sign Horford, then combine Hauser/Niang into another big. You could do that and sneak under the apron

Assuming they don't trade Brown, which I still think is very possible.

[Jellybeans]

Sure its nice to be under 2 apron..
But whats next?
Even with gap year waiting on JT coming back he will be back with the same roster we have now with some small changes.
People start talking about Simons as if he wont turn into Josh Richardson #2 if he stays here.
Reality is that 2 supermax contracts wont work out and someone will get traded.
Its not like we are 20 mil under 2 apron.We still dont have center on the team who can start.1 round pick money will move us right back into 2 apron if Brad wants to move up

[ddb]

Been absolutely swamped on business trips but wanted to pop in to kindly remind everyone that Boston can now legally under the 2nd apron trade JB AND DWhite to San Antonio. The only JB type deal I see that makes sense all around is JB and White to Spurs for a return beginning with #2, #14, Castle. More would have to be included like Vassell, Barnes, Sochan is in play. Etc etc. just worth noting that it can now be done.

[Fierce1]

Let's give it until tomorrow.

If JB is still a Celtic after the draft, Brad will not be rebuilding.

It's really intriguing if the Cs get Vassell, the #2 pick, #14 pick, and another piece for JB.

That's really a lot.

So let's see what happens tomorrow.

[GrandTheftRondo]

Been absolutely swamped on business trips but wanted to pop in to kindly remind everyone that Boston can now legally under the 2nd apron trade JB AND DWhite to San Antonio. The only JB type deal I see that makes sense all around is JB and White to Spurs for a return beginning with #2, #14, Castle. More would have to be included like Vassell, Barnes, Sochan is in play. Etc etc. just worth noting that it can now be done.

How does that make sense for Boston?

That is a terrible trade

[Fierce1]

Been absolutely swamped on business trips but wanted to pop in to kindly remind everyone that Boston can now legally under the 2nd apron trade JB AND DWhite to San Antonio. The only JB type deal I see that makes sense all around is JB and White to Spurs for a return beginning with #2, #14, Castle. More would have to be included like Vassell, Barnes, Sochan is in play. Etc etc. just worth noting that it can now be done.

How does that make sense for Boston?

That is a terrible trade

That's a rebuild trade.

Brad's not doing that.