Official BKN-DAL-MIN pick watch Thread 2015-16 season

[Slartibartfast]

We've got to root for Andrea to be healthy enough to play as many minutes as are available.

Here is a nice piece using some of the new SportVue data, looking at spacing created by different lineups. Not a ton here beyond a few examples and laying out the concept, but one of the Lopez-Young-Johnson lineups ends up bottom five in terms of total offensive spacing.

Here are the bottom 5 lineups (with the lowest first):

Wizards: John Wall, Garrett Temple, Paul Pierce, Nene Hilario, Marcin Gortat
Timberwolves: Ricky Rubio, Kevin Martin, Andrew Wiggins, Thaddeus Young, Nikola Pekovic
Nets: Deron Williams, Joe Johnson, Markel Brown, Thaddeus Young, Brook Lopez
Pistons: Brandon Jennings, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Kyle Singler, Greg Monroe, Andre Drummond
Hornets: Kemba Walker, Gerald Henderson, Lance Stephenson, Cody Zeller, Al Jefferson

http://www.basketballanalyticsbook.com/2015/09/14/preliminary-investigation-into-defensive-stretch/

Though I'm sure it's a function of not only shooting but how much a team with an interior scorer can drag people inside for offensive shots.

Does also note the obvious in how poor a floor spacer Shane Larking is. I think they actually see a good amount of Donald Sloan at PG is my guess.

Sloan is the best defender of the bunch but I don't think he solves any of their spacing problems. He's been pretty putrid from deep and his teams have always been much worse offensively and shooting-wise when he is on the floor. As bad as Larkin is, he's the only one with the quickness to be a consistent threat to get in the lane (their biggest loss with the departure of D-Will's slick crossover + range shooting threat), though he's pretty terrible once he gets there.

[165bows]

We've got to root for Andrea to be healthy enough to play as many minutes as are available.

Here is a nice piece using some of the new SportVue data, looking at spacing created by different lineups. Not a ton here beyond a few examples and laying out the concept, but one of the Lopez-Young-Johnson lineups ends up bottom five in terms of total offensive spacing.

Here are the bottom 5 lineups (with the lowest first):

Wizards: John Wall, Garrett Temple, Paul Pierce, Nene Hilario, Marcin Gortat
Timberwolves: Ricky Rubio, Kevin Martin, Andrew Wiggins, Thaddeus Young, Nikola Pekovic
Nets: Deron Williams, Joe Johnson, Markel Brown, Thaddeus Young, Brook Lopez
Pistons: Brandon Jennings, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Kyle Singler, Greg Monroe, Andre Drummond
Hornets: Kemba Walker, Gerald Henderson, Lance Stephenson, Cody Zeller, Al Jefferson

http://www.basketballanalyticsbook.com/2015/09/14/preliminary-investigation-into-defensive-stretch/

Though I'm sure it's a function of not only shooting but how much a team with an interior scorer can drag people inside for offensive shots.

Does also note the obvious in how poor a floor spacer Shane Larking is. I think they actually see a good amount of Donald Sloan at PG is my guess.

Sloan is the best defender of the bunch but I don't think he solves any of their spacing problems. He's been pretty putrid from deep and his teams have always been much worse offensively and shooting-wise when he is on the floor. As bad as Larkin is, he's the only one with the quickness to be a consistent threat to get in the lane (their biggest loss with the departure of D-Will's slick crossover + range shooting threat), though he's pretty terrible once he gets there.

Yeah the whole bench is a bunch of one-trick ponies. Bargs can shoot, TRob can rebound, Larkin is a pesky small guy, RHJ can defend. It's like a video game where all the points get loaded into one category and didn't leave any for all of the other skills.

Seems like the obvious in-game strategy is to just attack Lopez consistently on both ends, get him in foul trouble and/or wear him out. If teams stay even when he is on the floor they should be able to make hay against the benches.

[No-Man]

I'd love Dallas to tank, unless there are major injuries is not going to happen, the team is good enough, due to disfunctionality in some other franchises, looking at you Phoenix and Sacramento, to end up in the top10 of the West and win around 35-40 games in which would likely be a 12-14 pick going to Boston.
The PO teams in the West should be Golden St., OKC, LA, San Antonio, Houston, Memphis, NOLA and Utah, leaving the 3 pretenders out, Dallas, Phoenix and Sacramento, the other 4, Portland, Denver, Minnesota and LA have 0 shot at the PO.
Brooklyn is going to be quite bad, I could see them been bottom 3 in the East, along Philly and Orlando, and they could net you a top5-7 pick, highly likely.
So I'd say a 12-14th pick from Dallas, a either 10-12 or 15-16 of your own, difficult to predict if you will make the PO of not, there is a logjam of quality bottom feeders in the East playing for the last two spots, at least 6 teams or so and then a top5-7 pick from Brooklyn.
Not a bad loot.

[DakoBarr]

Maybe I'm dead wrong, but I'm pretty optimistic about this BK pick. This team has serious holes when fully healthy, and no NBA team makes it through the marathon without some health problems along the way. There's this joke I remember someone telling me when I was in elementary school about a guy who kept hearing "one tips it over, we all fall in" in his house. Upon some investigation, he discovers a skinny turd in a toilet with three pee drops sitting on top, with one on the end singing the phrase repeatedly. Pretty bad joke, but that's kind of how I think of this Nets team.

[165bows]

@BobbyMarks42: Unless you have a franchise player at another position, Success of teams always come down to PG play, NBA PG very similar to NFL QB

@BobbyMarks42: Unlike the NFL where a great defense can mask your QB warts, Hard to have success without your PG having a major role

@BobbyMarks42: N.Cole enters FA-2016 as a UFA joining; Conley, Rondo, Jennings, Vasquez, Chalmers, Augustin, Bayless, Not a great year if you need a PG

[ConstableGeneva]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/tim_cato/status/645977539869970432[/tweet]
Take all the time you need, you guys!

[Slartibartfast]

@BobbyMarks42: Unless you have a franchise player at another position, Success of teams always come down to PG play, NBA PG very similar to NFL QB

@BobbyMarks42: Unlike the NFL where a great defense can mask your QB warts, Hard to have success without your PG having a major role

@BobbyMarks42: N.Cole enters FA-2016 as a UFA joining; Conley, Rondo, Jennings, Vasquez, Chalmers, Augustin, Bayless, Not a great year if you need a PG

Way to twist the knife, Bobby!

[Slartibartfast]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/646075220730601472[/tweet]

Good news for the long-shot hopes of Minny giving us a first rounder, but I'm more hopeful that Billy King is going to pounce. Do it Billy!

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Good news for the long-shot hopes of Minny giving us a first rounder, but I'm more hopeful that Billy King is going to pounce. Do it Billy!

Think he gets above the minimum or no? Great thought, really. A true win-win potential for the Nets, Celtics and Bennett.

[165bows]

Good news for the long-shot hopes of Minny giving us a first rounder, but I'm more hopeful that Billy King is going to pounce. Do it Billy!

Think he gets above the minimum or no? Great thought, really. A true win-win potential for the Nets, Celtics and Bennett.

[Slartibartfast]

Good news for the long-shot hopes of Minny giving us a first rounder, but I'm more hopeful that Billy King is going to pounce. Do it Billy!

Think he gets above the minimum or no? Great thought, really. A true win-win potential for the Nets, Celtics and Bennett.

No, I don't think he gets more than the minimum. Is he any more desirable than Perry Jones at this point?

[165bows]

We've got to root for Andrea to be healthy enough to play as many minutes as are available.

Tim Bontemps: King on Bargnani: “We’re not looking back with him. We’re looking forward.” Wants him to forget about previous stops.
– via Twitter @TimBontemps

[Parliament10]

I Love our chances to have a few good 1st rounders. (2nd rounders, as well.)

The thing is, we can't actually draft 8 people in one year, right?
Hopefully something comes together, and Danny can pull the trigger.

[165bows]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/markporcaro/status/648093001730781184[/tweet]

[Banks2Pierce]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/BreakTheHuddle/status/648537779761102848[/tweet]

Downgrade that previous .3% chance of getting a first rounder from the wolves down to .000003%

[ConstableGeneva]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/netw3rk/status/648549924712394752[/tweet]
Hey Brooklyn, give us the top 3 pick already!

[2Mas]

^^^ Wow.

This team is gonna be such a show. I think the only thing that they improved in as a team is hustle. They finally got ppl that will try, they just don't have a lot of other skills.

Brooklyn's shot. They're a team I'm gonna do an association with in 2k & try to turn them around lol.

& Dallas already isn't healthy. As we knew, but there's no way they'll be healthy throughout the season. Worst C rotation in basketball.

Nor do I think that Dallas is a better team than Phoenix & Sacramento. I'm mentally prepped for no Dal pick, but mannn I hope they can squeak out 35 wins.

[ddb]

BK is a mid lottery team right now, and a Brook Lopez nagging injury away from fighting with Philly and Portland for leagues worst record. That pick is GOLD, either at the deadline or on draft night

[165bows]

@DraftExpress: Fenerbahce rolling with 17 and 19 year old Omer Yurtseven and Berk Ugurlu vs the Brooklyn Nets. Extend lead to 6. 74-68. 15 minutes to go.

Hopefully regular season Nets can't
beat teenagers either.

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@DraftExpress: Fenerbahce, playing without three key rotation players, about to knock off the Brooklyn Nets on their home floor. Not a great look for Nets.