#3 pick

[Turgon]

Heck, Bill Simmons was on the radio this morning advocating a 3/16/23/31/35/Nets 2017 for #1 this year.

How is that crazy? Ben Simmons is the next Lebron.. If you believe that you make that deal in a heartbeat. In the NBA one superstar is worth more then a half-dozen good players..

I would absolutely do that deal. It's not outlandish at all..Remember, when LeBron was SIXTEEN Ainge was quoted as saying there were only 4 or 5 players LEAGUE WIDE that he wouldn't deal for LeBron James...At the time, you'd have to imagine he was talking about Duncan, KG, Kobe, and maybe Shaq. Anyway, back to my point....If Ainge feels like Ben Simmons is his bet bet to land a superstar talent, then Philly is actually a good trade partner because Simmons in a lot of ways doesn't fit their current roster (not that Philly should make a decision based on that) AND Simmons probably doesn't even want to go there. So Ainge could leap over the Lakers and steal Simmons....

I would even throw in Smart just to sweeten the deal.

[HeartBreakKid]

Ben Simmons isn't the next Lebron James....very evident by how like, he's not as good as LBJ was.

The fact that people think trading all our picks this year and 2017s pick swap is beyond ignorant, are people unaware that 2017 actually does have superstar talent unlike this draft?

[Murta]

I know i'm in the minority but I really like Jaylen Brown

he sorta has that Russell Westbrook-out of UCLA thing about him....If you remember correctly Westbrook only averaged 12.5ppg as a sophomore and "experts" were picking him apart leading up to the draft.....but he had that freakish ability factor going for him which in alot of ways reminds me of Jaylen Brown. Different positions, sure....but NOBODY can deny the fact that Jaylen Brown is a physical freak much like Westbrook.
OKC "reached" for Westbrook at #4. I bet Phoenix goes for Brown at #4. And Brown is a great fit in Pho as well with Devon Booker slated at the 2 which helps with floor spacing to enable JBrown and the PG's (Knight, Bledsoe) to penetrate

Yes, the player reminds me most of is Russell Westbrook. Is Brown kinda limited by his height? If he was tall PG, his handle would be much tighter than as tall SF. But, Brown is going to figure it out in the NBA. That athleticism has to.

[DK-All Day]

Brown is one the players I wouldn't be surprised If he turned out to be the best player in this draft. You can teach that athleticism. That is GOD-GIVEN.

[31to6]

There have been no credible reports that George is on the trading block. The source of that rumor is Bill Simmons and I take everything he says with a grain of salt.

Heck, Bill Simmons was on the radio this morning advocating a 3/16/23/31/35/Nets 2017 for #1 this year.

U say no. Or does philly say no?


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The biggest issue is PHI already has 24/26 and Lakers '17 it just isn't that great of an offer . I don't think PHI can trade #1 after all of these years of tanking they have to take the player.

The real question to me is would LAL rather have Ingram, or Bender and BRK '17. Would Boston do that? I wonder love to know what LAL and Boston' board looks like and how close is it?

It's a nice question and a good wonder - don't like Ingram that much more than Murray/Dunn/Hield to do that, not at all.

If anyone wants to talk Simmons they can have about anything they want from us. Take it.

[31to6]

Brown is one the players I wouldn't be surprised If he turned out to be the best player in this draft. You can teach that athleticism. That is GOD-GIVEN.

Awesome body, great athleticism, pretty good impact on the basketball court. Agree with Slartibart that Maggette is a cautionary tale worth considering with him.

[rzzzzz]

1 and 2 aren't going anywhere. Philly and LA fans are real happy and neither FO is in position to make waves. but Bender could be a perfect fit. glad Boston fans aren't ranting the way Knicks fans did with KP.

[celticfan42487]

1 and 2 aren't going anywhere. Philly and LA fans are real happy and neither FO is in position to make waves. but Bender could be a perfect fit. glad Boston fans aren't ranting the way Knicks fans did with KP.

Well I mean, #1 or #2 could be going to SAC or LAC for one of the most talented young big men in the NBA. Or CHI for a young talented all-star SG.

Both PHIL and LAL are looking to establish themselves in their first year post Hinkie and Kobe. Both are starting new eras for their organization and won't hesitate to make a splash (some would say the Lakers need to trade it for an established star just to keep up the mystic and so they can throw a max at Derzon and make an instant playoff team that the celebrities can come watch).

But they sure as **** don't care about trading it to BOS I agree.

[celticfan42487]

Brown is one the players I wouldn't be surprised If he turned out to be the best player in this draft. You can teach that athleticism. That is GOD-GIVEN.

I agree with this.

He could be an all-star. Or he could be Kedrick Brown.

His one NBA talent is driving to the basket, and as we saw with Marcus Smart... that sometimes doesn't translate to the NBA due to the difference in the piss poor college game vs the NBA game.

I'd say outside of Simmons, Brown might have the highest upside in the draft. He's also the biggest risk and highest potential bust in the top 10 of mocks.

[Smog]

Marquese Chriss is probably a better athlete than Brown. Maybe not as strong, but in every other way. And he can already shoot from three, and he's three inches taller.

[Fidel Sarcasmo]

It's not just being an athlete that makes a person rise to the top in the NBA. It's a whole slew of things. I think it's a big factor, but it's only 1 of like 10 in a hierarchy of factors and traits. Another factor are skills broken down by offense and defense, ie dribbling with your left and right hand, driving with either hand, defensive instincts, court vision, creativity, (& I'm not talking about windmill dunks) I'm talking like on a scale of 1 to 10 in creativity, 1 being Joe Klein and 10 is being White Chocolate, Intangibles, Competitive fire, finese, court awareness, game clock awareness, X's & O's understanding. I could go on and on. Basically, looking at somebodies frame could, cause someone to lose focus on the other skills that are present or not present. Does a player have the awareness as they're going 1 on 1 that another player is coming from behind to swipe the ball away? that's court awareness. There's just so much. When it's all said and done, I could care less about a players triceps. The question is, "Is this kid Brown a Baller before Athlete or Athlete before Baller?" I take a baller who happens to be athletic all day before the latter.

[rzzzzz]

Well I mean, #1 or #2 could be going to SAC or LAC for one of the most talented young big men in the NBA. Or CHI for a young talented all-star SG.

Both PHIL and LAL are looking to establish themselves in their first year post Hinkie and Kobe. Both are starting new eras for their organization and won't hesitate to make a splash (some would say the Lakers need to trade it for an established star just to keep up the mystic and so they can throw a max at Derzon and make an instant playoff team that the celebrities can come watch).

i could see Calangelo wanting to leave his mark right away. but Brett Brown says Simmons has got a touch of Magic and LeBron, and Philly fans are frothing. Just like Laker fans are already picturing Russell turning into Curry playing next to their new Durant. Granted, more myth than reality. But both GMs would be nuts to smack down their fan's joyous enthusiasm so rudely.

[sully00]

1 and 2 aren't going anywhere. Philly and LA fans are real happy and neither FO is in position to make waves. but Bender could be a perfect fit. glad Boston fans aren't ranting the way Knicks fans did with KP.

Well I mean, #1 or #2 could be going to SAC or LAC for one of the most talented young big men in the NBA.

What a dream it would be for the LAL to trade away Randle, Russell, and #2 for Cousins.

[celticfan42487]

1 and 2 aren't going anywhere. Philly and LA fans are real happy and neither FO is in position to make waves. but Bender could be a perfect fit. glad Boston fans aren't ranting the way Knicks fans did with KP.

Well I mean, #1 or #2 could be going to SAC or LAC for one of the most talented young big men in the NBA.

What a dream it would be for the LAL to trade away Randle, Russell, and #2 for Cousins.

well, only one of Russel or Randle.

All 3 is way too much and kind of ludicrous.

But yeah, then LAC will have the cache to get their second star in the most desired location in all of the NBA and are instantly back into the playoffs in the cream puff West next season.

[sully00]

Well I mean, #1 or #2 could be going to SAC or LAC for one of the most talented young big men in the NBA.

What a dream it would be for the LAL to trade away Randle, Russell, and #2 for Cousins.

well, only one of Russel or Randle.

All 3 is way too much and kind of ludicrous.

But yeah, then LAC will have the cache to get their second star in the most desired location in all of the NBA and are instantly back into the playoffs in the cream puff West next season.

I am not sure what NBA you watch but the West is pretty stacked.

Cousins, Rondo and Rudy Gay was awful. Who are the Lakers going to add to Cousins? You can build an Eastern Conference team top down like that and it will work in the West it is much harder.

That is completely ignoring the fact that Cousins is the basketball satan.

[celticfan42487]

What a dream it would be for the LAL to trade away Randle, Russell, and #2 for Cousins.

well, only one of Russel or Randle.

All 3 is way too much and kind of ludicrous.

But yeah, then LAC will have the cache to get their second star in the most desired location in all of the NBA and are instantly back into the playoffs in the cream puff West next season.

I am not sure what NBA you watch but the West is pretty stacked.

Cousins, Rondo and Rudy Gay was awful. Who are the Lakers going to add to Cousins? You can build an Eastern Conference team top down like that and it will work in the West it is much harder.

That is completely ignoring the fact that Cousins is the basketball satan.

I was watching the NBA where there were only 7 West teams that had a better than .500 record.

The West was just top heavy this year, not a hard conference to make the playoffs in.

Demar Derozen will likely jump on the opportunity to come home and be the star SG to follow Kobe and play with Cousins. They won't be world beaters, but that with Russel can get you to around .500.

The Kings were held back by Rondo and his stat stuffing this year, that's why he's not even being offered money by them this year.

"According to Kings' writer James Ham, "The Kings have not completely turned their backs on a possible return, but they are also not going to get into a bidding war for Rondo’s services." Defensive lapses were a constant for Rondo last season, and the Kings yielded the 10th-most points and third-most assists to opposing point guards. Rondo benefited from the blistering pace of George Karl's offense this year, so fantasy owners should temper expectations for 2016-17." source: Rotoworld

Russel is already an upgrade at PG for him, and Derozen would likely be better than Gay as well. And that was a team that landed in the 10th spot in the West... not that far off from the 8th spot.

[chakdaddy]

Ben Simmons isn't the next Lebron James....very evident by how like, he's not as good as LBJ was.

The fact that people think trading all our picks this year and 2017s pick swap is beyond ignorant, are people unaware that 2017 actually does have superstar talent unlike this draft?

How many superstar talents are there?(n)

And how can you seriously think we'll get a pick higher than n+1??????

[sully00]

Demar Derozen will likely jump on the opportunity to come home and be the star SG to follow Kobe and play with Cousins. They won't be world beaters, but that with Russel can get you to around .500.

Why would this be attractive to Derozan? I get it if the Lakers are going to max him out and nobody else will but lets say the money is even and more in TOR he is going to go from a 2 seed to a last place team to follow in a legend's footsteps? You think Cousins is going to be good with Derozan making almost twice as much money as him?

I just don't see anyone going to the Lakers voluntarily. In a year or so with Phil back and some of their young talent getting traction maybe they can reestablish themselves. They are a mess and I don't think Cousins does anything to h elp that.

[celticfan42487]

Demar Derozen will likely jump on the opportunity to come home and be the star SG to follow Kobe and play with Cousins. They won't be world beaters, but that with Russel can get you to around .500.

Why would this be attractive to Derozan? I get it if the Lakers are going to max him out and nobody else will but lets say the money is even and more in TOR he is going to go from a 2 seed to a last place team to follow in a legend's footsteps? You think Cousins is going to be good with Derozan making almost twice as much money as him?

I just don't see anyone going to the Lakers voluntarily. In a year or so with Phil back and some of their young talent getting traction maybe they can reestablish themselves. They are a mess and I don't think Cousins does anything to h elp that.

Because he's a young kid from Compton with the chance to play for his legendary hometeam in the recent legend's footsteps.

Also, because it's the NBA and it's LA.

There is a reason Simmons is blacklisting the Sixers to try and go there.

It's within the realm of reason. But we're like 5 steps down the rabbit hole right now, so let's just hold out and wait and if the Lakers even do trade the #2 for a star as they'd like to then we can revisit this topic.

[robbie84]

Lol as if the 76ers are giving up a shot at Simmons. Never, ever, ever.