Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21

[Ernest]

would be nice but I have a hard time believing Timelord is a Brad Stevens type of player.

Because he doesn't shoot the three?

Minimum requirement for Stevens to stay on the floor is give multiple efforts on defense and know what you're doing on defense. If Robert can check that box, he will be trusted with more minutes.

as I have already stated, even with RW's limitations, he already provided enough evidence that he should have played more. missing some defensive assignments didn't justify his very limited amount of PT IMO.

Missing defensive spots is exactly what gets you pulled from games or not put in to begin with.

But if we roll out with the same 3 bigs next season, it might be a good idea to start RWilliams and give him 20+ minutes a night even if Theis is still the better player. Williams has been hurt a lot and did show some real promise in the bubble. Half a season of steady minutes would really let us know what we got and possibly really increase his trade value by the deadline. I'm usually not in favor of giving someone minutes they haven't earned but I think Williams might really step up. He certainly hasn't had consistant minutes or health.

[snowman]

Theis needs to work on his 3 point shot and be confident in it this little bit of an off season we have. If he can be more of a threat out side the paint, it would open up the middle more for Tatum and Brown to drive more. Theis is already one of the best sealers down low Boston has ever had.
Timelord needs to understand his defensive rotation and positioning better, and develop his mid range game from the foul line to be most effective. He also needs to move his feet more and not go for pump fakes so much.
I see both of these 2 long term in Boston.

Kanter needs to work on his lateral movement, but I really don't think Is happening.

[snowman]

Any more update on Poirier to France?

[Parliament10]

Any more update on Poirier to France?

There's probably something there.
That's still his home.

[Ernest]

Any names we haven't talked about yet?

[djFan71]

If we could dump Kanter for an asset, his deal would be seen as an asset and I’m guessing he wouldnt be opting in.

I dont think this is the case nor will anyone will take him without compensation

He's neutral to plus or minus a 2nd value to me. Not a huge difference, really. It all depends on context - who's initiating the trade and has the bigger need and what else is involved, etc. If POR wants him it makes sense to grab him cheap/free if they want him. Whether that's fake 2nd or 46. If they ask for an asset back, they get moved down the list of Danny's options.

I wouldn't be shocked whatever happens with him, including not opting in or being back at least thru the deadline. He's pretty fairly valued at $5M. If he can get a 2-3 year deal from someone for tax-MLE, he should jump at it. If not, he opts in and see what Danny does. If Danny can't improve on him after opt-in, he stays.

[Roddy]

Any more update on Poirier to France?

Nothing really accurate.

He is in Paris right now, a weird source from Spain was talking about contacts with Real Madrid. Not sure if true or not.

[captain green]

Any more update on Poirier to France?

Nothing really accurate.

He is in Paris right now, a weird source from Spain was talking about contacts with Real Madrid. Not sure if true or not.

He is under contract how does that work? Can we sell him back? This has to be nonsense

[Asian Celtic]

The occasional 3-ball would be nice in his arsenal.
I have seen him practicing it.

It's a nice-to-have. I don't think it's an absolute necessity. Kanter doesn't shoot the three. Amir Johnson and Brandon Bass were bigs that didn't take threes often either but still averaged 20+ mpg for Brad.

He can develop it later on, start with the corners. But defensive footwork, positioning, rotation, and communication should be his priority.

Do we really need our center to take 3’s??? We have the other 4 guys taking that already. Peraonally, i’m sick of all the 3pt chuckfest that we have been doing the past 2 season. What we need is a center that can defend the paint and shot block. R.Will can actually do that. Another thing is a center that can post up, and actually score on his own. Not just rely on lobs and passes underneath. R.Will needs to develop his offensive game if he wants more playing time. Right now, we need an upgrade at the 5 as a top priority. We can’t wait for R.Will to develop. That might take 2-3 years. Every team in east will try to improve next season. The Nets would be there as well if healthy. Our team as constructed right now, is not good enough to win it all. We have a lot of flaws. A big defensive center. A big guard or wing that can score off the bench. Quality veterans in the bench as well. It’s time for Danny to step up and not be soft. Trade Hayward, or trade Kemba, anything to get better. Tatum and Brown have a lot of experience already even if they are young. Let’s put the right pieces around them now! Don’t wait for others to develop. Find the right pieces now Danny. Don’t WAIT!

We need our center to be able to make the occasional 3 so our other players can drive into the paint unclogged. That way the diversity of our plays is increased exponentially.

[batabatuta]

There's literally no one in the FA that would make us an NBA finals contender next year more so with our available cap. I thought this year was our year but the basketball gods had other plans. I suppose we will continue to be a second-round or ECF exit at best for the time being. I hope Ainge is cooking something big. I don't know-how. Fewer than few GMs want to deal with him fearing he would fleece them in a trade. And he does have a history of loving small ball and not prioritizing bigs and I doubt that will change. I just think this team needs a makeover except for Tatum and Brown.

[playa-hater]

can't believe no one even mentioned this, but Rumor or not, Boston is said to be interested in Larry Nance Jr. God I would be all over this if we can trade Kanter + plus filler + 30 for Nance. He is a good inside/outside defender with a pretty good baseline jumper. He can roll to the basket as good as anyone as well. He can play at the 4 or 5 spot..

In fact that let's us keep Hayward (for Myles Turner)

Hayward + Nance >>>>> Myles Turner

Make it happen Ainge!!

[djFan71]

can't believe no one even mentioned this, but Rumor or not, Boston is said to be interested in Larry Nance Jr. God I would be all over this if we can trade Kanter + plus filler + 30 for Nance. He is a good inside/outside defender with a pretty good baseline jumper. He can roll to the basket as good as anyone as well. He can play at the 4 or 5 spot..

In fact that let's us keep Hayward (for Myles Turner)

Hayward + Nance >>>>> Myles Turner

Make it happen Ainge!!

I asked about him on the T&T board with CLE fans a few weeks (or more?) ago. They are sentimental about him due to his Dad, and even freely admitted they wouldn't let him go in a fair trade. But, that's the fans - so, who knows? But, 30, Kanter & most likely Poirier & Edwards seems awful low value for Nance.

[Triple7]

It's a nice-to-have. I don't think it's an absolute necessity. Kanter doesn't shoot the three. Amir Johnson and Brandon Bass were bigs that didn't take threes often either but still averaged 20+ mpg for Brad.

He can develop it later on, start with the corners. But defensive footwork, positioning, rotation, and communication should be his priority.

Do we really need our center to take 3’s??? We have the other 4 guys taking that already. Peraonally, i’m sick of all the 3pt chuckfest that we have been doing the past 2 season. What we need is a center that can defend the paint and shot block. R.Will can actually do that. Another thing is a center that can post up, and actually score on his own. Not just rely on lobs and passes underneath. R.Will needs to develop his offensive game if he wants more playing time. Right now, we need an upgrade at the 5 as a top priority. We can’t wait for R.Will to develop. That might take 2-3 years. Every team in east will try to improve next season. The Nets would be there as well if healthy. Our team as constructed right now, is not good enough to win it all. We have a lot of flaws. A big defensive center. A big guard or wing that can score off the bench. Quality veterans in the bench as well. It’s time for Danny to step up and not be soft. Trade Hayward, or trade Kemba, anything to get better. Tatum and Brown have a lot of experience already even if they are young. Let’s put the right pieces around them now! Don’t wait for others to develop. Find the right pieces now Danny. Don’t WAIT!

We need our center to be able to make the occasional 3 so our other players can drive into the paint unclogged. That way the diversity of our plays is increased exponentially.

That would be the ideal scenario, but to find a big that could defend the rim and take the occasional 3 is extremely hard to find. We had Horford last year, and yet we still chuck 3’s all the time, and not so much drive inside. What we need is a center that can rim protect, hit the occasional jumpshot and post up if needed and not necesarily take the 3. Bam doesn’t take the 3, and yet the Heat’s spacing was still good. A lot of open lanes to the basket, because we don’t have a guy in the middle that could bother them.

[flintsky21]

Any names we haven't talked about yet?

Let's get Aaron Gordon!

[Froob]

I think we have the main guys we need, just need a vet or two.. I wouldn’t deal Hayward just to deal him.

The main guys who I think can play in shortened rotation:

Kemba
Smart
JB
Tatum
Grant
Theis
Hayward

Question marks:

Rob Williams
Romeo Langford
Tremont Waters

Rob Will, I think is likely a career energy guy off the bench. I like Grant a lot more of the williams “brothers”. Grant already played big time crunch time minutes of playoff games.

Romeo it’s really going to come down to the shot. Supposedly he can shoot 3s when his finger isn’t ****ed up. Remains to be seen. He can already play NBA defense and has an interesting bag of tricks. I’d hate to trade him.

Waters looked good in limited time, looks like an NBA point guard but he is really small.

Would like to trade/sign a vet point guard, wing, or defensive big.

Shame we didn’t try to get Rondo last summer, because he’s the exact guy we could use off the bench. We have too many low IQ players in the rotation.

Heat and Raptors weren’t playing guys like Brad Wanamaker. We don’t really have a steady hand out there who has won a title or played in huge games and won.

Two guys I’d explore signing are TT and Jeff Teague. TT might be out of our price range but, Teague should be obtainable after the year he had. He’d be a steady hand off the bench.

[Dannyboy36]

I’d love Justin Holiday. I think he’d be amazing here with our core. But I don’t think the tax payer mid level Will do it. Maybe I’m wrong.

[WeLikeOurGuys]

Buddy Heild and Bjelica
For
Hayward and 14th pick.

[GoCeltics123]

Any names we haven't talked about yet?

Let's get Aaron Gordon!

No

[La Flame]

Hayward, Romeo and picks for Jrue

[Celts17Pride]

can't believe no one even mentioned this, but Rumor or not, Boston is said to be interested in Larry Nance Jr. God I would be all over this if we can trade Kanter + plus filler + 30 for Nance. He is a good inside/outside defender with a pretty good baseline jumper. He can roll to the basket as good as anyone as well. He can play at the 4 or 5 spot..

In fact that let's us keep Hayward (for Myles Turner)

Hayward + Nance >>>>> Myles Turner

Make it happen Ainge!!

John Hollinger said Kanter, Poirier and the 14th pick for Nance. No thank you.