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Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22?

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Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#241 » by Edug27 » Wed Jun 9, 2021 2:02 am

moonie_mcgee wrote:Ima thinking that some hc candidates for the Cs may be wary of reporting to Brad Stevens who didn't play in the NBA, doesn't have GM experience, and was the previous coach for 8 seasons.


That describes many GM’s in the league.
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Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#242 » by nic4747 » Wed Jun 9, 2021 2:06 am

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Mr_Mojo_Risin wrote:After an exhaustive search Boston hires Brad Stevens as HC with a stellar interview in the mirror impressing the Head of Basketball Operations.


He is the best available coach so makes sense


This reminds me of Horrible Bosses when Kevin Spacey gave the other job to himself but only took 85% of the salary because he understands the meaning of sacrifice.
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Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#243 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Jun 9, 2021 2:18 am

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TommyPointGawd wrote:Brad can't hire somebody from his current staff. The optics on that are awful.


Plus, the current staff sucked. Our offensive system has been abysmal for years now. Keeping the same voices in power isnt changing anything.


They were #3 offense in the league just a year ago lol. And if Larranga or Allen are hired as head coach, it’ll come with Tatum approving that decision and vouching for them to be hired.


They were 4th with an ORTG that would have finished 12th this season. It was bottom 5 in assists and relied solely on tough shot making in the mid-range. Analytically, according to expected eFG% based on shot location, its been bottom 5 for two years in a row. What you saw was poor process that still produced good results because we had a healthy Kemba for the majority of the period and a healthy Hayward. We had neither this year; hence the regression.

Further, we rarely ran plays for anyone off ball and far too often ran a high PnR with two people glued in the corners with sets designed to result in open mid range Js. Its just a bad system that capped our offensive output.
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Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#244 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Jun 9, 2021 2:26 am

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SmartWentCrazy wrote:I’m starting to come around on Sam Cassell as our HC option. Would love it if we could somehow get Darvin Ham to be our offensive coordinator after Milwaukee cleans house. Close it up with Lloyd Pierce as the defensive coordinator and we’ll be in great shape IMO


And why exactly would we want someone running the Bucks anemic playoff offense?


Youre talking out of both sides of your mouth; on the one hand you praise the Celtics for finishing 4th in ORTG last year. On the other, you criticize the Bucks anemic playoff offense while ignoring that they finished 5th this year in ORTG and 8th the year before.

Qualitatively, the Bucks like to employ a system that minimizes mid range jumpers in exchange for threes and shots at the rim. It results in a very high expected eFG%. I would like our team to run a more analytically friendly offense.

The Bucks are struggling right now brcause they’ve abandoned this system. They abandoned shots at the rim and threes for mid range jumpers and thats just a terrible fit for their roster talent and its showing. Its a knock on Milwaukees coaching, for sure.
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Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#245 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Jun 9, 2021 2:30 am

CelticsPride18 wrote:I have a feeling the coach will be someone we haven’t heard before. The Celtics usually keep things under wraps when it comes to coaching changes.


Eh, we’ve hired one coach in like 15 years and everything about him is able to stay secret cuz his wife is his agent. Its pretty obvious that shes never going to leak anything. Im guessing we dont see a similar fact pattern this go round.
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Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#246 » by GoCeltics123 » Wed Jun 9, 2021 2:38 am

Read on Twitter


Not from a great source...but if true, interesting
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Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#247 » by Triple7 » Wed Jun 9, 2021 3:50 am

GoCeltics123 wrote:
Read on Twitter


Not from a great source...but if true, interesting


I think D’antoni’s time for HC is done. We need some new system. New culture. Some of the recent team success has been with getting a new coach/system that opposing teams are not used to. Kerr with the Dubs, lue with the cavs, nurse with raps, possibly nash with the nets. Of course it helps having a top player with the team, and if they can sustain, adapt and get better the following seasons. Tatum will be one of the top players next season no doubt. Cassell and Billups looks like the best candidates. They look like guys that can fight for the team and have their players’ backs. Stevens were never that. The guy won’t even get a tech to support his players. Sam and Chauncey were like that as players, and no reason to think they won’t be as coaches.
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Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#248 » by hugepatsfan » Wed Jun 9, 2021 4:01 am

I will say, if our players are all pouty because Brad isn't getting tech's and giving the other team points to "defend them" against the refs after they bitch and complain after every call, then who the coach is won't matter. Because that means our players are just absolute losers. Our players need to nut up. We act like such petulant children on the court. It's ridiculous. They whine and bitch about everything. Tatum is the worst at it.

Maybe a new coach can help our guys grow a pair.
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Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#249 » by themoneyteam2 » Wed Jun 9, 2021 4:18 am

hugepatsfan wrote:I will say, if our players are all pouty because Brad isn't getting tech's and giving the other team points to "defend them" against the refs after they bitch and complain after every call, then who the coach is won't matter. Because that means our players are just absolute losers. Our players need to nut up. We act like such petulant children on the court. It's ridiculous. They whine and bitch about everything. Tatum is the worst at it.

Maybe a new coach can help our guys grow a pair.


This is the current NBA, not just for the Celtics. Go watch any single playoff game and the stars will complain about damn near every call.
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Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#250 » by FlatearthZorro » Wed Jun 9, 2021 8:11 am

GoCeltics123 wrote:
Read on Twitter


Not from a great source...but if true, interesting


He's a magician on offense. However, he like Danny hates dudes who are over 6'8 tall. He's had success with playing small ball, I guess that CP3 injury kinda took a Finals appearence away from the Rockets.

I'd still prefer another option. Not as familiar as Money Mike.
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#251 » by cloverleaf » Wed Jun 9, 2021 10:53 am

The retreads meant to make Larranaga look good? Sounds like the league would really not be happy if they went with him, given all the qualified AA candidates.
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Post#252 » by robbie84 » Wed Jun 9, 2021 11:26 am

Nate McMillan has done well with ATL this year.
If they get KO'd by philly I wouldn't mind if Brad sat down with him and picked his brain.
Remember guys, Brad Stevens is a freakin' basketball genius. He's not picking a chump.
One day Marcus Smart will be defensive player of the year, mark my words.
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Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#253 » by cloverleaf » Wed Jun 9, 2021 12:41 pm

robbie84 wrote:Nate McMillan has done well with ATL this year.
If they get KO'd by philly I wouldn't mind if Brad sat down with him and picked his brain.
Remember guys, Brad Stevens is a freakin' basketball genius. He's not picking a chump.


Why would Nate not be happy where he is?
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Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#254 » by GoCeltics123 » Wed Jun 9, 2021 12:50 pm

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robbie84 wrote:Nate McMillan has done well with ATL this year.
If they get KO'd by philly I wouldn't mind if Brad sat down with him and picked his brain.
Remember guys, Brad Stevens is a freakin' basketball genius. He's not picking a chump.


Why would Nate not be happy where he is?

Yeah all I've heard is Nate is going to be in ATL for a long time
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Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#255 » by timpiker » Wed Jun 9, 2021 1:06 pm

I really liked Perk's recommendation of Sam Cassell.
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Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#256 » by robbie84 » Wed Jun 9, 2021 1:25 pm

cloverleaf wrote:
robbie84 wrote:Nate McMillan has done well with ATL this year.
If they get KO'd by philly I wouldn't mind if Brad sat down with him and picked his brain.
Remember guys, Brad Stevens is a freakin' basketball genius. He's not picking a chump.


Why would Nate not be happy where he is?


His contract is up I believe.
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Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#257 » by Hal14 » Wed Jun 9, 2021 2:40 pm

robbie84 wrote:Nate McMillan has done well with ATL this year.
If they get KO'd by philly I wouldn't mind if Brad sat down with him and picked his brain.
Remember guys, Brad Stevens is a freakin' basketball genius. He's not picking a chump.

He's done well in ATL this year. So well that some were evan calling him a coach of the year candidate, despite. taking over in the middle of the season.

How they do against Philly is a moot point. The hawks have already exceeded expectations. They beat the sixers in game 1. They beat the knicks in just 5 games. Nate ain't going anywhere. I'm sure as soon as the hawks season is over, he's getting an extension.
Nothing wrong with having a different opinion - as long as it's done respectfully. It'd be lame if we all agreed on everything :)
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Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#258 » by OBisHalJordan » Wed Jun 9, 2021 2:56 pm

Shouldn't a decision come soon? The draft is at the end of the month
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Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#259 » by Fierce1 » Wed Jun 9, 2021 3:00 pm

OBisHalJordan wrote:Shouldn't a decision come soon? The draft is at the end of the month


The coach doesn't really need to be involved in the draft process.

Brad and the front office guys will handle that.

I think it's wise if the Celts take their time.

No need to rush in choosing the next coach of the Celtics.
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Post#260 » by Hal14 » Wed Jun 9, 2021 3:01 pm

OBisHalJordan wrote:Shouldn't a decision come soon? The draft is at the end of the month

draft is july 29, we still have quite some time till then..
Nothing wrong with having a different opinion - as long as it's done respectfully. It'd be lame if we all agreed on everything :)

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