No Cheesesteaks For Us! Game 4 Loss vs PHI 5/7 (Series tied 2-2)

[ajones9219]

He didn't hit the shot. He didn't even take the shot.

You're not apparently comprehending that this is the shot the Sixers want you to take.

Playing right nto their strategy.

Okay I will play your silly game. We ran down the clock....what is the play then? Tatum was covered. You would rather him force a contested shot vs making the pass to the open man who hit the shot?

I am not defending running down the clock. But once they did, they made the right play.

Please follow the thread.

It's not on Smart for not having the **** time to shoot the ball.


It's on Joe for not calling a timeout. Twice.

It's on Tatum for being a beta. Twice.


But Smart reeks of a man who thinks he's more important than he really is and if he could shoot better than 30% from the field, they wouldn't be doubling Tatum in the first place.

Smart should not be taking 2 of the final 3 regulation shots. He shouldn't even be in the floor.

Tatum made the right play outside of running the clock down. That is my point. Passing to a wide open Smart for 3 is the correct play. If you disagree, fine, but pretty much any NBA coach would be happy with that play outside of the poor clock management.

[Bar Fight]

He. Hit. The. Shot

Sub in Brogdan. He may have also hit the shot but still would have been late. Passing to Smart was the correct play. There isn't a way to spin it otherwise.

He didn't hit the shot. He didn't even take the shot.

You're not apparently comprehending that this is the shot the Sixers want you to take.

Playing right nto their strategy.

Okay I will play your silly game. We ran down the clock....what is the play then? Tatum was covered. You would rather him force a contested shot vs making the pass to the open man who hit the shot?

I am not defending running down the clock. But once they did, they made the right play.

I mean, I’d take getting a shot off no matter how tough the look is over passing it out with not enough time left for a shot.

[The Corey's]

Okay I will play your silly game. We ran down the clock....what is the play then? Tatum was covered. You would rather him force a contested shot vs making the pass to the open man who hit the shot?

I am not defending running down the clock. But once they did, they made the right play.

They're clearly was no play thanks to our coach

The play was let the players win the game so Joe could proclaim himself the next Zen master in post game press conferences

Joe has already dug him self quite a hole that typically green teamer ra ra everything is great types already recognize him as a problem.

If he flames out this year and next he's gone. Which will be 2 years too late.

[ajones9219]

He didn't hit the shot. He didn't even take the shot.

You're not apparently comprehending that this is the shot the Sixers want you to take.

Playing right nto their strategy.

Okay I will play your silly game. We ran down the clock....what is the play then? Tatum was covered. You would rather him force a contested shot vs making the pass to the open man who hit the shot?

I am not defending running down the clock. But once they did, they made the right play.

Please follow the thread.

It's not on Smart for not having the **** time to shoot the ball.


It's on Joe for not calling a timeout. Twice.

It's on Tatum for being a beta. Twice.


But Smart reeks of a man who thinks he's more important than he really is and if he could shoot better than 30% from the field, they wouldn't be doubling Tatum in the first place.

Smart should not be taking 2 of the final 3 regulation shots. He shouldn't even be in the floor.

Tatum made the right play outside of running the clock down. That is my point. Passing to a wide open Smart for 3 is the correct play. If you disagree, fine, but pretty much any NBA coach would be happy with that play outside of the poor clock management.

[ajones9219]

He didn't hit the shot. He didn't even take the shot.

You're not apparently comprehending that this is the shot the Sixers want you to take.

Playing right nto their strategy.

Okay I will play your silly game. We ran down the clock....what is the play then? Tatum was covered. You would rather him force a contested shot vs making the pass to the open man who hit the shot?

I am not defending running down the clock. But once they did, they made the right play.

Please follow the thread.

It's not on Smart for not having the **** time to shoot the ball.


It's on Joe for not calling a timeout. Twice.

It's on Tatum for being a beta. Twice.


But Smart reeks of a man who thinks he's more important than he really is and if he could shoot better than 30% from the field, they wouldn't be doubling Tatum in the first place.

Smart should not be taking 2 of the final 3 regulation shots. He shouldn't even be in the floor.

Tatum made the right play outside of running the clock down. That is my point. Passing to a wide open Smart for 3 is the correct play. If you disagree, fine, but pretty much any NBA coach would be happy with that play outside of the poor clock management.

[fallguy]

I can’t believe we hired Joe. Our execution down the stretch was flawless under Brad and Ime. Worst head coach ever

Silly take.

The fact that we continue to make these mistakes is an argument for MORE coaching intervention in high leverage moments.

Not whatever the **** Joe is doing.

[The Corey's]

Okay I will play your silly game. We ran down the clock....what is the play then? Tatum was covered. You would rather him force a contested shot vs making the pass to the open man who hit the shot?

I am not defending running down the clock. But once they did, they made the right play.

Please follow the thread.

It's not on Smart for not having the **** time to shoot the ball.


It's on Joe for not calling a timeout. Twice.

It's on Tatum for being a beta. Twice.


But Smart reeks of a man who thinks he's more important than he really is and if he could shoot better than 30% from the field, they wouldn't be doubling Tatum in the first place.

Smart should not be taking 2 of the final 3 regulation shots. He shouldn't even be in the floor.

Tatum made the right play outside of running the clock down. That is my point. Passing to a wide open Smart for 3 is the correct play. If you disagree, fine, but pretty much any NBA coach would be happy with that play outside of the poor clock management.

Alright. No accountability from you. You've made your point.

[CelticsPride18]

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We were also 0-4 in 2020. I don't know. It's as if either we win big or we can't win close games.

Those must have been Joe's fault.

Yep, 3 different coaches. I'm at the point of either we win with this core THIS YEAR or break up Jays/Smart already. They keep making the same mistakes. Some of the losses past few postseasons have been self-inflicted. Can't turn to "not enough experience". They're literally among those who have played the most playoff games/minutes in the league. Together too.

Even in the COVID year with a mediocre roster we underperformed because of this too. We have four years of data already and we haven’t seen the improvements

[Magicman125]

Joe was bad down the stretch.

No one is talking about Brown, who I've said for years has one of the lowest BBIQ's in the league.

Boston up 115-113. Brown decides to leave the hottest player on the floor and goes to the post to double team Embiid, leaving Harden wide open for a corner 3 with about 20 seconds to go in the game. Harden makes the 3, Sixers take the lead 116-115. Ball game.

Why double Emiid there and leave Harden open for a wide open 3? Even if Embiid makes the 10 foot shot, the game is tied with 20 seconds to go and Boston with the ball.

Why was Horford guarding Tucker and Tatum guarding Embiid on that play to begin with is what I'm wondering?

[CelticsPride18]

I can’t believe we hired Joe. Our execution down the stretch was flawless under Brad and Ime. Worst head coach ever

Silly take.

The fact that we continue to make these mistakes is an argument for MORE coaching intervention in high leverage moments.

Not whatever the **** Joe is doing.

Brad, Ime and Joe wanted them to play with more pace but they go back to milking the clock down the stretch. This is on the **** main core.

[fallguy]

My biggest pet peeve about the game is the defence on that final possession.

We did really well all fourth in running the Sixers off the three point line.

Then Brown inexplicably doubles Embiid and leaves a cooking Harden to drain an easy corner three.

I’d much rather live with Embiid hitting a layup or getting fouled.

Jaylen's screw up was an in-the-heat-of-the-moment dumb gamble. Very costly. Very dumb.

Joe's screw ups are worse to me because they're *considered.* He doesn't even consider them mistakes. I've never seen such an arrogant coach, especially one who hasn't done anything of note.

[fallguy]

I can’t believe we hired Joe. Our execution down the stretch was flawless under Brad and Ime. Worst head coach ever

Silly take.

The fact that we continue to make these mistakes is an argument for MORE coaching intervention in high leverage moments.

Not whatever the **** Joe is doing.

Brad, Ime and Joe wanted them to play with more pace but they go back to milking the clock down the stretch. This is on the **** main core.

Yes, I'm sympathetic to this core needing a redesign.

But this is the core we have right now. And as the coach you HAVE to understand the pitfalls and intervene. Joe doesn't do that. Joe proudly doesn't do that.

[ajones9219]

Please follow the thread.

It's not on Smart for not having the **** time to shoot the ball.


It's on Joe for not calling a timeout. Twice.

It's on Tatum for being a beta. Twice.


But Smart reeks of a man who thinks he's more important than he really is and if he could shoot better than 30% from the field, they wouldn't be doubling Tatum in the first place.

Smart should not be taking 2 of the final 3 regulation shots. He shouldn't even be in the floor.

Tatum made the right play outside of running the clock down. That is my point. Passing to a wide open Smart for 3 is the correct play. If you disagree, fine, but pretty much any NBA coach would be happy with that play outside of the poor clock management.

Alright. No accountability from you. You've made your point.

I am all for accountability when it's placed correctly. Brown for helping off the 3, and Tatum for running the clock down. Hell I can even ride not liking Joe not taking the timeout, but it's been the plan for multiple of our coaches.

I am just not scapegoating like people love to do here with Joe and Tatum. For better or worse, Joe made the same play that our last 2 coaches have made and everybody acts like Ime was some coaching genius for doing the same thing. Tatum making the correct read and pass is not beta. It actually is the opposite. It shows maturity in his game vs forcing shots like he did early in his career.

[Fencer reregistered]

I think it's going 7.

That's what happened the last time the Cs lost a playoff game after Brown left a shooter open in the corner.

What series was this fencer….I was trying to remember a similar situation this happened in because I thought it did but couldn’t recall

Toronto in the bubble. Crosscourt pass on an ATO play with .5 seconds on the clock.

[keevsnick1]

He didn't hit the shot. He didn't even take the shot.

You're not apparently comprehending that this is the shot the Sixers want you to take.

Playing right nto their strategy.

Okay I will play your silly game. We ran down the clock....what is the play then? Tatum was covered. You would rather him force a contested shot vs making the pass to the open man who hit the shot?

I am not defending running down the clock. But once they did, they made the right play.

The play should have been that when the play was slow as hell to develop and Tatum was taking too long to get into the play or let something develop..call timeout.

I don't understand how this is even controversial. If you fail to even get a shot off you messed up. When Smart gets to the top of the arc and starts dribbling for 10 seconds waiting for the play to develop you have to call a timeout. HAVE TO.

[GoCeltics123]

I can’t believe we hired Joe. Our execution down the stretch was flawless under Brad and Ime. Worst head coach ever

Silly take.

The fact that we continue to make these mistakes is an argument for MORE coaching intervention in high leverage moments.

Not whatever the **** Joe is doing.

Joe has done a bad job in this series but the Celtics under Ime were also mostly trash at the end of games. They won every time in a blowout.

Jaylen doubling there was also just absolutely inexcusable. A **** joke that he did that. All the good in this game was gone the minute he helped there

[return2glory]

This series reminds of me of the one vs Raptors. Celtics f**k around instead of putting rivals out of their misery. I predicted Celtics in 6 and was not surprised by Celtics attitude in Game 4. Now, I am thinking it will be big win in Game 5 and then they will grind them out in Game 6 to finish it.

I can easily see this going 7. One reason, Joe.

It's more than that. Tatum and Brown aren't great leaders nor are they clutch in crunch time. Brown is known to get off to great 1st quarter starts and then kind of disappears when the game is on the line. Tatum is usually really good in the 3rd quarters of games but kind of disappears in the closing minutes of close games.

We don't have a closer and that's why we have struggled in close games. Joe hasn't helped the cause in the playoffs. But he is a rookie coach. What's Tatum and Brown's excuse? It's kind of on Brad to help get a clutch player to add to Tatum and Brown. Maybe Brogdon is that guy but they haven't gone to him much in closing moments.

[ajones9219]

Okay I will play your silly game. We ran down the clock....what is the play then? Tatum was covered. You would rather him force a contested shot vs making the pass to the open man who hit the shot?

I am not defending running down the clock. But once they did, they made the right play.

The play should have been that when the play was slow as hell to develop and Tatum was taking too long to get into the play or let something develop..call timeout.

I don't understand how this is even controversial. If you fail to even get a shot off you messed up. When Smart gets to the top of the arc and starts dribbling for 10 seconds waiting for the play to develop you have to call a timeout. HAVE TO.

I am not defending the lack of timeout. I am defending Tatum passing to a wide open shooter. That was the correct play after you piss away the clock.

[ajones9219]

We can all piss and moan about the late game stuff but at the end of the day we got home court back and it took an absolute herculean effort at home for Philly to squeak out a win. We are in great shape.

[makubesu]

I am all for accountability when it's placed correctly. Brown for helping off the 3, and Tatum for running the clock down. Hell I can even ride not liking Joe not taking the timeout, but it's been the plan for multiple of our coaches.

I am just not scapegoating like people love to do here with Joe and Tatum. For better or worse, Joe made the same play that our last 2 coaches have made and everybody acts like Ime was some coaching genius for doing the same thing. Tatum making the correct read and pass is not beta. It actually is the opposite. It shows maturity in his game vs forcing shots like he did early in his career.

It’s not worth the effort man, this guy basically spends the whole game thread personally insulting our players. If someone unironically is using the phrase “beta”, you should leave the scolding to their mother.