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Re: Official BKN-DAL-MIN pick watch Thread 2015-16 season 

Post#261 » by jmr07019 » Tue Oct 6, 2015 12:11 pm

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@DraftExpress: Fenerbahce rolling with 17 and 19 year old Omer Yurtseven and Berk Ugurlu vs the Brooklyn Nets. Extend lead to 6. 74-68. 15 minutes to go.

Hopefully regular season Nets can't
beat teenagers either.


:o Wow. Nets are hilarious. Losing to teenagers, there coach says he doesn't know what their strength is and their best player says it's not that bad.

I have them as the 6th worst roster ahead of Philly, LAL, Portland, Minni and Denver. Orlando I think is much closer to the the 8th seed than a top lotto pick. Some good young talent there and they now have a coach who knows how to win.
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Post#262 » by 165bows » Tue Oct 6, 2015 12:22 pm

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@DraftExpress: Fenerbahce rolling with 17 and 19 year old Omer Yurtseven and Berk Ugurlu vs the Brooklyn Nets. Extend lead to 6. 74-68. 15 minutes to go.

Hopefully regular season Nets can't
beat teenagers either.


:o Wow. Nets are hilarious. Losing to teenagers, there coach says he doesn't know what their strength is and their best player says it's not that bad.

I have them as the 6th worst roster ahead of Philly, LAL, Portland, Minni and Denver. Orlando I think is much closer to the the 8th seed than a top lotto pick. Some good young talent there and they now have a coach who knows how to win.

I'm in that same camp though conference strength aside I've been thinking Lakers might have a roster just as good as Brooklyn.

Brook Lopez - Hibbert
Thad Young - Bass
Johnson - Kobe
Bogdanovich - Lou Williams
Jack - J. Clarkson

Brooklyn probably has an edge on the starters, especially up front but I think the Lakers have an edge on the bench. That said, NY could be mediocre or they could be awful as well.

Interesting note is C's have a pair of back-to-backs against Brooklyn, those are pretty huge miniseries.
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Re: Official BKN-DAL-MIN pick watch Thread 2015-16 season 

Post#263 » by jmr07019 » Tue Oct 6, 2015 12:31 pm

^ interesting breakdown. I could see LAL passing them especially if they get positive contributions from Randle and Russell. Minni has a chance to pass them too if Wiggins and Towns are both the real deal.

Even Denver has Mudiay, Chandler, Gallinari, Farried and that center they drafted last year whose name escapes me. That's some legit talent if they don't blow it up. Not coming close to the playoffs but they could win 30 games.

Only Philly and Portland seem like locks for sub 25 win seasons.
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Post#264 » by Parliament10 » Fri Oct 9, 2015 12:13 am

I'm interested in seeing the standings, after 10 games.
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Post#265 » by KGboss » Fri Oct 9, 2015 1:59 am

Worst record in the league. You can do it Brooklyn!
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Post#266 » by 165bows » Fri Oct 9, 2015 7:50 pm

@BobbyMarks42: Not at "high" level but still some concern with all these injuries in Dallas. They cannot fall behind the pack to start the season.

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@BobbyMarks42: The thing that training camp provides is a dress rehearsal for the regular season. DAL will go into the season not knowing how the parts fit

Dallas does have a lot of new parts compared to last year. One of the higher teams in terms of minutes-played turnover.
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Post#267 » by ConstableGeneva » Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:37 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/johnschuhmann/status/652957735965859840[/tweet][tweet]https://twitter.com/MichaelVPina/status/652966223802601472[/tweet]
Please please let this be a theme in the regular season. The road to a TOP 3 PICK begins here.
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Post#268 » by jordb2k7 » Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:38 am

ConstableGeneva wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/johnschuhmann/status/652957735965859840[/tweet][tweet]https://twitter.com/MichaelVPina/status/652966223802601472[/tweet]
Please please let this be a theme in the regular season. The road to a TOP 3 PICK begins here.



:D I'm in the camp of thinking they will be pretty bad this year. I just don't see much talent on their team at all, not to mention very little depth. They may not have the worst record in the league but I feel they will be in the mix at the bottom.
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Post#269 » by 165bows » Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:41 am

ConstableGeneva wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/johnschuhmann/status/652957735965859840[/tweet][tweet]https://twitter.com/MichaelVPina/status/652966223802601472[/tweet]
Please please let this be a theme in the regular season. The road to a TOP 3 PICK begins here.

Brooklyn scored three fast break points the entire game.

If Wednesday's game is a shelling there will be jubilation around here lol.
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Post#270 » by DK-All Day » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:28 am

The Nets are an abomination. Just horrible. I would feel sorry for them If it weren't for the Celtics basically benefiting off them for the next few years.
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Post#271 » by Dirkbaka » Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:13 pm

You guys, barring any great Nets trade, are getting at top 4 pick this year. The nets will be the worst team in the league easily.
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Post#272 » by greengoggles » Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:05 pm

Dirkbaka wrote:You guys, barring any great Nets trade, are getting at top 4 pick this year. The nets will be the worst team in the league easily.


Love the optimism, but I have trouble envisioning any non-tanking team ending up with a bottom 5 record. There's no incentive for them to lose. The Nets may start the season horribly, but after the allstar break, when all the other bad teams will have packed up their aspirations and descended into tankdom, the Nets are going to keep on trucking. Personally, I think they'll give us a pick in the 7-10 range.
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Post#273 » by Slartibartfast » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:14 pm

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Dirkbaka wrote:You guys, barring any great Nets trade, are getting at top 4 pick this year. The nets will be the worst team in the league easily.


Love the optimism, but I have trouble envisioning any non-tanking team ending up with a bottom 5 record. There's no incentive for them to lose. The Nets may start the season horribly, but after the allstar break, when all the other bad teams will have packed up their aspirations and descended into tankdom, the Nets are going to keep on trucking. Personally, I think they'll give us a pick in the 7-10 range.


Which bad teams are going to descend into tankdom after the all-star break?

Philly is already tanking. You could argue that Portland is too. LAL and NYK are in virtually the same boat as Brooklyn re: picks, so they will gut it out to the bitter end. Denver doesn't have to tank if NYK sucks (pick swap).

Some of the potential pack-it-up teams are Orlando, Minny and Sacramento and all have been in the lotto so long that they have more to lose than to gain from another tank job. Even Charlotte and Dallas are predisposed not to tank, though it's probably in their best interest to do so.

Anyways, even if a bunch of teams do start tanking into the bottom 5, Brooklyn's a Brook Lopez injury away from being un-invincible. A line-up with Jarrett Jack (or Shane Larkin), Bogdanovic and Andrea Bargnani in starting roles will be extraordinarily difficult to outtank.
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Post#274 » by Dave_From_NB » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:21 pm

greengoggles wrote:
Dirkbaka wrote:You guys, barring any great Nets trade, are getting at top 4 pick this year. The nets will be the worst team in the league easily.


Love the optimism, but I have trouble envisioning any non-tanking team ending up with a bottom 5 record. There's no incentive for them to lose. The Nets may start the season horribly, but after the allstar break, when all the other bad teams will have packed up their aspirations and descended into tankdom, the Nets are going to keep on trucking. Personally, I think they'll give us a pick in the 7-10 range.


If the Nets start poorly, they might well end up as sellers at the deadline, trying to get some sort of future picks or young guys for players like Johnson. Although they might not be tankers in the sense of trying to improve their draft position, I could see them taking a step back in team performance.
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Post#275 » by Slartibartfast » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:29 pm

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greengoggles wrote:
Dirkbaka wrote:You guys, barring any great Nets trade, are getting at top 4 pick this year. The nets will be the worst team in the league easily.


Love the optimism, but I have trouble envisioning any non-tanking team ending up with a bottom 5 record. There's no incentive for them to lose. The Nets may start the season horribly, but after the allstar break, when all the other bad teams will have packed up their aspirations and descended into tankdom, the Nets are going to keep on trucking. Personally, I think they'll give us a pick in the 7-10 range.


If the Nets start poorly, they might well end up as sellers at the deadline, trying to get some sort of future picks or young guys for players like Johnson. Although they might not be tankers in the sense of trying to improve their draft position, I could see them taking a step back in team performance.


If JJ could be had for value, he would be gone already. They had to pay D-Will to go away because they couldn't find a good deal for JJ.

But thankfully the damage has already been done. JJ is on his way out as a good player, and outside of the mediocre 1-2 punch of Lopez and Young (who have never gotten in the way of a good tank) the Nets have the worst collection of non-talent in the league.
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Post#276 » by ConstableGeneva » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:42 pm

I think 18 of their 28 games post-ASB are on the road, including a 9-game road trip. Hopefully that factors in to them accumulating those valuable losses.
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Post#277 » by shawn unkempt » Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:28 am

It's hard to predict the bottom of the standings, there's so much variance down there. Every year there's teams that come out of nowhere with their awfulness. What we really need is the teams that have been bottom feeders for the last few years to actually improve.
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Post#278 » by skywalker33 » Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:55 am

Speculation Larry Sanders is talking with a Western Conf. team, many think it could be Dallas. A legit C with rim protecting skills would really enhance the Mav's....nothing yet on paper but that could really derail that DAL pick as a mid-to-late lottery pick.
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Post#279 » by Writebloc » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:21 am

skywalker33 wrote:Speculation Larry Sanders is talking with a Western Conf. team, many think it could be Dallas. A legit C with rim protecting skills would really enhance the Mav's....nothing yet on paper but that could really derail that DAL pick as a mid-to-late lottery pick.


How's Larry Sanders going to improve Dallas beyond the lottery? It won't, they still won't make the playoffs in the West. That island of misfit toys will better off exploding in order to not have to give up the draft pick. This is grasping at straws at its finest.
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Post#280 » by jmr07019 » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:30 am

If anything Sanders just cements that Dallas pick being conveyed this year. Sanders isn't enough to get Dallas to 50 wins but he may make the pick a few spots worse for us.
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