The Kyrie thread - he probably doesnt bleed green

[LondonCeltics]

Typical and I said do not spam my notifications but you did.

And I am almost expecting him to leave since I don't think this team can go far so don't act like I would be suprised. I almost believe he deserves better.

But thanks for proving my point right, you guys really just sit around waiting to post one or two lines that literally mean nothing. No substance in your posts, no real analysis. Absolutely nothing.......no original thoughts whatsoever.

Now that certainly is something rather odd for a Celtics fan (rather than simply a Kyrie fan) to have said.

Because the truth sometimes hurts. There are issues beyond Kyrie that anyone with a brain can see this year.

I know though you have come after me in recent weeks from time to time. So like I said last time to you, don't bother replying to me if you won't offer original thoughts and opinions that I can debate with other then "You aren't a real fan".

The real fandom thing means literally nothing to me at all. I have nothing to prove to some random dudes online who I will never in real life ever meet or even here have a real in depth good conversation with.

And yes I have actual buddies on this forum I have good convos with about the Celtics and basketball. I also have friends from other teams too.

I can be really really nice when it is deserved. But also I can throw punches back too when I read the same garbage repeatedly strung out day after day like a bunch of parrots repeating what they hear in the media.

Problem is, this is intended as a forum for supporters of the Celtics, not supporters of a particular player above all else. You seem to post exclusively about Kyrie to defend him without question, when some of his performances/behaviour this season has been questionable. You can't tell me not to call you out on that just because you have a crush.

[K For Three]

Now that certainly is something rather odd for a Celtics fan (rather than simply a Kyrie fan) to have said.

Because the truth sometimes hurts. There are issues beyond Kyrie that anyone with a brain can see this year.

I know though you have come after me in recent weeks from time to time. So like I said last time to you, don't bother replying to me if you won't offer original thoughts and opinions that I can debate with other then "You aren't a real fan".

The real fandom thing means literally nothing to me at all. I have nothing to prove to some random dudes online who I will never in real life ever meet or even here have a real in depth good conversation with.

And yes I have actual buddies on this forum I have good convos with about the Celtics and basketball. I also have friends from other teams too.

I can be really really nice when it is deserved. But also I can throw punches back too when I read the same garbage repeatedly strung out day after day like a bunch of parrots repeating what they hear in the media.

Problem is, this is intended as a forum for supporters of the Celtics, not supporters of a particular player above all else. You seem to post exclusively about Kyrie to defend him without question, when some of his performances/behaviour this season has been questionable. You can't tell me not to call you out on that just because you have a crush.

Do you exclusively at times over the weeks make it a habit to just come out to reply to only me when it comes to Kyrie here as if I am the one you notice? Like weeks ago when you asked me flat out if I was ready to root for the Knicks? And another one when you said I was a fair weather fan?

You see how many posts I have on this forum and that is a KYRIE thread? And why is it a crime to defend someone here when I think they are getting unfairly attacked 24/7?

You think all my posts are all about Kyrie? I have been part of game threads, post game threads, various threads (look at my post count in the NBA general thread) and yes Kyrie threads.

Who are you? Some dude from London with 30 to 40 posts who calls ME out for my fandom?

Hell maybe I will ask Howard to change my name in the future.

You know what, time for another break. When my uncle died around the west coast trip and I took 2 weeks off it was actually refreshing not to be on the internet with this garbage.

This is absurd. There is zero real discussion going on at all and then you basically imply I am just some chick with a crush. Sexist.

[thelarrybirdx]

Spoiler:

Make no mistake about it, it's fans like you who are more the embarrassment then any record. Grab a clue and get on the wagon and support the guy. He also has legit tried to recruit more stars to this team to win some of you another title.

I used to enjoy games without Kyrie that we won since it really never mattered to me who was playing. Then when I started to hear the anti Kyrie agenda, the joy was sucked out. Why? Since it's impossible to almost enjoy anything with today's agenda filled frenzy.

I saw the Raptors this year go into GS and blow out the Dubs without Kawhi Leonard. Didn't hear a mass hysteria frenzy over how they won without Leonard. I see the Pacers win without Oladipo vs. good teams.

I think the only thing it is used against at times with the record is with Kyrie and sometimes Durant since he jumped on board to a 73 win team and they hardly ever lose without KD even if they win with him too. I mean I seen loads of Warriors fans get going again when Durant missed those games vs. the Rockets/OKC on the road recently and say they sometimes wish they could go back to MVP Curry and the pure Splash Brothers era.

But you know what? With the Warriors fans I GET IT. They love the MVP Curry style and the Splash Brothers memory which actually won a title too. And those dudes are HOF level.

What do Celtics fans do? Worship a bunch of scrubs and kids who never won a god damn thing. Celtics fans who prefer a midget ass broken down IT and give him the hero worship treatment when he comes back to Boston or freaking ass Rozier. Or "long two" Tatum who they believe is a top 5 player in their hearts since he is "home grown" when the reality is he looks more like a fringe sort of all star at times then the next AD or KD.

It's freaking pathetic the hate Kyrie gets at times for a few media comments. People act like he came into their homes and banged their women in front of them.

One of the reasons this team can win without Kyrie is because in Brad's third grade gold star system they can take turns chucking their shots up and feeling like studs. When Kryie comes back you can almost at times feel a few of them sulk like "awww mom, I wanted more shots today, why does the cool kid on the block have to take our fun away?". And it don't even work without Kyrie always. In Cleveland the other night, third worst team in the league arguably. What happens? Even Tatum gets iced out in the second half! God forbid they even let Tatum have the big game, why hurt any feelings? Let Tatum stop before he shows off too much and it's not team oriented.

Make no mistake about it, if Kyrie leaves it's because he can do better then Brad's college system and he will believe he isn't the coach to help get this team and him and AD etc. to a title or two.

Open your eyes, some of you can't see the forest for the trees at times. If Kyrie is a meanie burger for some comments this year or sulks at times you call him an embarrassment? Well you will see the embarrassment in the future if this whole rebuild of Ainge fails and you are stuck seeing TD Garden cheering for the once almost great Brad favorite Gordon Hayward as he collects 34 million a year and then goes home to play video games every night.


If I went too far in this post I apologize but really it's like ground hog day this year with the same Kyrie stuff over and over again and this particular comment pushed my buttons.

Either root for the guy in a Kyrie support thread or GTFO at times. By the age of 25 the dude was a world champion with the biggest shot in his franchises history, an Olympic champion and we were damn lucky we could get him for Isaiah Thomas.

By the age of 25 most of the guys on this current team would be lucky to sniff any of those things.

Hell Rozier is 25 now and has never done a damn thing. Oh yeah I forget, last year they beat Simmons and Embiid in their first go around in the playoffs too. They almost dropped confetti in Philly, it was super funny. And then Tatum dunked on Lebron in a loss in game 7 while the team blew an 0-2 series lead. OMG it was so damn special. Lets pretend we are Colts fans now and we almost beat the Patriots and hang banners for it.







Yeah another golden comment. Like some of you can't WAIT until we lose WITH Kyrie to spark that agenda back up.

Did he hurt your wittle feelings that much?

I have even been accused of being a fairweather Kyrie only fan here despite the fact I live a freaking hour and a half from TD Garden, lived over 8 years in Boston for high school and college and go to a game from time to time when it can happen. I was even at a playoff game last year when Kyrie was out.

I chose the Kyrie handle when I joined too since he is FUN. Or it was fun until people ruined it.

But the taunting at times by so called Celtics fans about "Wait until we blow it and Kyrie has egg on his face!" is absolutely pathetic. Almost like you want the guy to have some sort of public humiliation so it can justify the feelings you bottled up in your mundane lives.

I apologize to mods btw, but really we had a mod already here a few pages back say Celtics fans and media have gotten pretty pathetic and it has.

I have seen legit youtube and twitter accounts dedicated to just hating on Kyrie btw. The hate thing is real. And it's becoming disturbing. I seen it for Lebron and Kobe too. So it makes me wonder if Kyrie is just another polarizing player but I certainly expected more from Celtics fans.

Kyrie doesn't run a gulag behind the scenes btw. I think he had the truest intentions with this team and organization but it fell apart at times this season. Does not mean though it was ALL on him, open your eyes.

I am sure some of you would be pretty happy if Kyrie and KD for example went to NY but then Kyrie told them the keys to the Brad system and they each plopped 40 points on the Celtics asses in a win.

And don't even bother replying back, I don't want to hear it and get my notification box spammed with "But blah blah blah I got some stats to show you, omg Kyrie homer.........look at this and leadership and omg he played with Lebron too and leadership."

Oh my lord all of this damage control to defend Kyrie. I honestly think someone might need to be watching you 24/7 when he leaves.

Typical and I said do not spam my notifications but you did.

And I am almost expecting him to leave since I don't think this team can go far so don't act like I would be suprised. I almost believe he deserves better.

But thanks for proving my point right, you guys really just sit around waiting to post one or two lines that literally mean nothing. No substance in your posts, no real analysis. Absolutely nothing.......no original thoughts whatsoever.

Spam your notifications? I replied to your post once lol. And you think Kyrie deserves better? Better than a team that was widely seen as the best team in the Eastern conference and overwhelming favorites to play GSW in the finals? I think Boston deserves better if we're being quite honest.

[LondonCeltics]

Because the truth sometimes hurts. There are issues beyond Kyrie that anyone with a brain can see this year.

I know though you have come after me in recent weeks from time to time. So like I said last time to you, don't bother replying to me if you won't offer original thoughts and opinions that I can debate with other then "You aren't a real fan".

The real fandom thing means literally nothing to me at all. I have nothing to prove to some random dudes online who I will never in real life ever meet or even here have a real in depth good conversation with.

And yes I have actual buddies on this forum I have good convos with about the Celtics and basketball. I also have friends from other teams too.

I can be really really nice when it is deserved. But also I can throw punches back too when I read the same garbage repeatedly strung out day after day like a bunch of parrots repeating what they hear in the media.

Problem is, this is intended as a forum for supporters of the Celtics, not supporters of a particular player above all else. You seem to post exclusively about Kyrie to defend him without question, when some of his performances/behaviour this season has been questionable. You can't tell me not to call you out on that just because you have a crush.

Do you exclusively at times over the weeks make it a habit to just come out to reply to only me when it comes to Kyrie here as if I am the one you notice? Like weeks ago when you asked me flat out if I was ready to root for the Knicks? And another one when you said I was a fair weather fan?

You see how many posts I have on this forum and that is a KYRIE thread? And why is it a crime to defend someone here when I think they are getting unfairly attacked 24/7?

You think all my posts are all about Kyrie? I have been part of game threads, post game threads, various threads (look at my post count in the NBA general thread) and yes Kyrie threads.

Who are you? Some dude from London with 30 to 40 posts who calls ME out for my fandom?

Hell maybe I will ask Howard to change my name in the future.

You know what, time for another break. When my uncle died around the west coast trip and I took 2 weeks off it was actually refreshing not to be on the internet with this garbage.

This is absurd. There is zero real discussion going on at all and then you basically imply I am just some chick with a crush. Sexist.

Sorry to hear about your uncle.

I don't see what my location or number of posts has to do with anything. I've been supporting the C's from afar since 2002. Amassing thousands of posts on here after Kyrie got traded here with a focus primarily on him isn't relevant either.

Let's just leave it at that.

[Parliament10]

Because the truth sometimes hurts. There are issues beyond Kyrie that anyone with a brain can see this year.

I know though you have come after me in recent weeks from time to time. So like I said last time to you, don't bother replying to me if you won't offer original thoughts and opinions that I can debate with other then "You aren't a real fan".

The real fandom thing means literally nothing to me at all. I have nothing to prove to some random dudes online who I will never in real life ever meet or even here have a real in depth good conversation with.

And yes I have actual buddies on this forum I have good convos with about the Celtics and basketball. I also have friends from other teams too.

I can be really really nice when it is deserved. But also I can throw punches back too when I read the same garbage repeatedly strung out day after day like a bunch of parrots repeating what they hear in the media.

Problem is, this is intended as a forum for supporters of the Celtics, not supporters of a particular player above all else. You seem to post exclusively about Kyrie to defend him without question, when some of his performances/behaviour this season has been questionable. You can't tell me not to call you out on that just because you have a crush.

Do you exclusively at times over the weeks make it a habit to just come out to reply to only me when it comes to Kyrie here as if I am the one you notice? Like weeks ago when you asked me flat out if I was ready to root for the Knicks? And another one when you said I was a fair weather fan?

You see how many posts I have on this forum and that is a KYRIE thread? And why is it a crime to defend someone here when I think they are getting unfairly attacked 24/7?

You think all my posts are all about Kyrie? I have been part of game threads, post game threads, various threads (look at my post count in the NBA general thread) and yes Kyrie threads.

Who are you? Some dude from London with 30 to 40 posts who calls ME out for my fandom?

Hell maybe I will ask Howard to change my name in the future.

You know what, time for another break. When my uncle died around the west coast trip and I took 2 weeks off it was actually refreshing not to be on the internet with this garbage.

This is absurd. There is zero real discussion going on at all and then you basically imply I am just some chick with a crush. Sexist.

Everybody got their punches in?
Let's Kool it Now.

~ Parl

[Gooner]

Now that certainly is something rather odd for a Celtics fan (rather than simply a Kyrie fan) to have said.

Because the truth sometimes hurts. There are issues beyond Kyrie that anyone with a brain can see this year.

I know though you have come after me in recent weeks from time to time. So like I said last time to you, don't bother replying to me if you won't offer original thoughts and opinions that I can debate with other then "You aren't a real fan".

The real fandom thing means literally nothing to me at all. I have nothing to prove to some random dudes online who I will never in real life ever meet or even here have a real in depth good conversation with.

And yes I have actual buddies on this forum I have good convos with about the Celtics and basketball. I also have friends from other teams too.

I can be really really nice when it is deserved. But also I can throw punches back too when I read the same garbage repeatedly strung out day after day like a bunch of parrots repeating what they hear in the media.

Problem is, this is intended as a forum for supporters of the Celtics, not supporters of a particular player above all else. You seem to post exclusively about Kyrie to defend him without question, when some of his performances/behaviour this season has been questionable. You can't tell me not to call you out on that just because you have a crush.

Well, Kyrie is a Boston Celtics player right now, supporting him and the team isn't mutually exclusive by any means. You have a right to dislike Kyrie, and to think that this team would be better without him. But other people have the right to like him, to have him as their favourite player on the team, or view him as the key part of the team. You can criticise him if you want, but you are going at other people for expressing opinions that are different to yours. It's childish.

[Pacino62]

Now that certainly is something rather odd for a Celtics fan (rather than simply a Kyrie fan) to have said.

Because the truth sometimes hurts. There are issues beyond Kyrie that anyone with a brain can see this year.

I know though you have come after me in recent weeks from time to time. So like I said last time to you, don't bother replying to me if you won't offer original thoughts and opinions that I can debate with other then "You aren't a real fan".

The real fandom thing means literally nothing to me at all. I have nothing to prove to some random dudes online who I will never in real life ever meet or even here have a real in depth good conversation with.

And yes I have actual buddies on this forum I have good convos with about the Celtics and basketball. I also have friends from other teams too.

I can be really really nice when it is deserved. But also I can throw punches back too when I read the same garbage repeatedly strung out day after day like a bunch of parrots repeating what they hear in the media.

Problem is, this is intended as a forum for supporters of the Celtics, not supporters of a particular player above all else. You seem to post exclusively about Kyrie to defend him without question, when some of his performances/behaviour this season has been questionable. You can't tell me not to call you out on that just because you have a crush.

Last line is garbage. If you didn’t know she was a female, you wouldn’t be making that statement. The rest of the debate/argument is what it is but that is bull ****.

[LondonCeltics]

Because the truth sometimes hurts. There are issues beyond Kyrie that anyone with a brain can see this year.

I know though you have come after me in recent weeks from time to time. So like I said last time to you, don't bother replying to me if you won't offer original thoughts and opinions that I can debate with other then "You aren't a real fan".

The real fandom thing means literally nothing to me at all. I have nothing to prove to some random dudes online who I will never in real life ever meet or even here have a real in depth good conversation with.

And yes I have actual buddies on this forum I have good convos with about the Celtics and basketball. I also have friends from other teams too.

I can be really really nice when it is deserved. But also I can throw punches back too when I read the same garbage repeatedly strung out day after day like a bunch of parrots repeating what they hear in the media.

Problem is, this is intended as a forum for supporters of the Celtics, not supporters of a particular player above all else. You seem to post exclusively about Kyrie to defend him without question, when some of his performances/behaviour this season has been questionable. You can't tell me not to call you out on that just because you have a crush.

Last line is garbage. If you didn’t know she was a female, you wouldn’t be making that statement. The rest of the debate/argument is what it is but that is bull ****.

I dont believe so in the circumstances. Recently there was a video posted where a female reporter was batting eyelids at Kyrie and this in particular was mentioned by you know who to the point where it was kind of celebrated in a ‘I don’t blame you’ kind of way. When you add that to the incessant and unconditional support for 1 player and 1 player only...I make no apologies whatsoever. As I’ve said, name on the front not the back.

[Jaqua92]

Problem is, this is intended as a forum for supporters of the Celtics, not supporters of a particular player above all else. You seem to post exclusively about Kyrie to defend him without question, when some of his performances/behaviour this season has been questionable. You can't tell me not to call you out on that just because you have a crush.

Last line is garbage. If you didn’t know she was a female, you wouldn’t be making that statement. The rest of the debate/argument is what it is but that is bull ****.

I dont believe so in the circumstances. Recently there was a video posted where a female reporter was batting eyelids at Kyrie and this in particular was mentioned by you know who to the point where it was kind of celebrated in a ‘I don’t blame you’ kind of way. When you add that to the incessant and unconditional support for 1 player and 1 player only...I make no apologies whatsoever. As I’ve said, name on the front not the back.

So it would seem you go at her because how she expresses herself challenges your idea of how a fan of "the name on the front" should be. My question, is why does that matter so much to you?

Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

[LondonCeltics]

Because the truth sometimes hurts. There are issues beyond Kyrie that anyone with a brain can see this year.

I know though you have come after me in recent weeks from time to time. So like I said last time to you, don't bother replying to me if you won't offer original thoughts and opinions that I can debate with other then "You aren't a real fan".

The real fandom thing means literally nothing to me at all. I have nothing to prove to some random dudes online who I will never in real life ever meet or even here have a real in depth good conversation with.

And yes I have actual buddies on this forum I have good convos with about the Celtics and basketball. I also have friends from other teams too.

I can be really really nice when it is deserved. But also I can throw punches back too when I read the same garbage repeatedly strung out day after day like a bunch of parrots repeating what they hear in the media.

Problem is, this is intended as a forum for supporters of the Celtics, not supporters of a particular player above all else. You seem to post exclusively about Kyrie to defend him without question, when some of his performances/behaviour this season has been questionable. You can't tell me not to call you out on that just because you have a crush.

Well, Kyrie is a Boston Celtics player right now, supporting him and the team isn't mutually exclusive by any means. You have a right to dislike Kyrie, and to think that this team would be better without him. But other people have the right to like him, to have him as their favourite player on the team, or view him as the key part of the team. You can criticise him if you want, but you are going at other people for expressing opinions that are different to yours. It's childish.

Indeed. As I’ve said previously I was excited to get behind Kyrie at the start of the season prior to his shortcomings and bizzare comments to the media so of course I know support of Kyrie is not mutually exclusive to support of the team. I don’t think you’re right to say I’ve ‘gone at’ people simply for having a different opinion from me. I’m questioning what I perceive as unconditional support of a player to the point where I genuinely query that it is prioritised above the importance of the team.

I’m certainly no worse than anything one would hear on AFTV..

[Pacino62]

Problem is, this is intended as a forum for supporters of the Celtics, not supporters of a particular player above all else. You seem to post exclusively about Kyrie to defend him without question, when some of his performances/behaviour this season has been questionable. You can't tell me not to call you out on that just because you have a crush.

Last line is garbage. If you didn’t know she was a female, you wouldn’t be making that statement. The rest of the debate/argument is what it is but that is bull ****.

I dont believe so in the circumstances. Recently there was a video posted where a female reporter was batting eyelids at Kyrie and this in particular was mentioned by you know who to the point where it was kind of celebrated in a ‘I don’t blame you’ kind of way. When you add that to the incessant and unconditional support for 1 player and 1 player only...I make no apologies whatsoever. As I’ve said, name on the front not the back.

Regardless...comments like that, in the context that they were said, don’t support an inclusive or diverse environment. Not asking for or telling you to apologize. Just pointing out that a sexist comment is a sexist comment. Doesn’t matter what the situation is. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...

I’m not one to get into a pissing contest on here, so I’ll digress.

[LondonCeltics]

Last line is garbage. If you didn’t know she was a female, you wouldn’t be making that statement. The rest of the debate/argument is what it is but that is bull ****.

I dont believe so in the circumstances. Recently there was a video posted where a female reporter was batting eyelids at Kyrie and this in particular was mentioned by you know who to the point where it was kind of celebrated in a ‘I don’t blame you’ kind of way. When you add that to the incessant and unconditional support for 1 player and 1 player only...I make no apologies whatsoever. As I’ve said, name on the front not the back.

So it would seem you go at her because how she expresses herself challenges your idea of how a fan of "the name on the front" should be. My question, is why does that matter so much to you?

Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

Because as fans we invest so much in this organisation. For decades. We support them through thick and thin. Through the lean years. For me, that was the days of Pitino. Having to accept Gin Baker as a supposedly viable option. Worrying if Ricky Davis would cock things up by trying a through the legs dunk. Worrying how long Pierce would stick around. Bracing myself for annihilation in the playoffs after we snuck in on a losing record.

I started supporting us during the noughties doldrums (could have been worse, I could have been a fan during the nineties). Back then all you really had to feel good about was the history and the hope that things would get better. Hearing about Celtic Pride.

I suppose Kyrie is the first real superstar to walk through the door that wasn’t drafted. I don’t count KG as he was coming towards the latter stage of his career and he was just one of many parts that lead to success.

It seems to me like the focus in the league has shifted in recent years to individual superstars and the idea that it’s the organisation above all else has been lost.

I don’t think I really need to spell out why that is a shame. The rise of player power and things like flopping...I see a concerning parallel with what happened with European soccer over the last 20 years.

I suppose that’s why I judge ‘Kyrie for three’. That’s why I find it a load of bollocks for someone to unconditionally defend what I fear is a true mercenary and put down fans of the team rather than fans of a player

[LondonCeltics]

Last line is garbage. If you didn’t know she was a female, you wouldn’t be making that statement. The rest of the debate/argument is what it is but that is bull ****.

I dont believe so in the circumstances. Recently there was a video posted where a female reporter was batting eyelids at Kyrie and this in particular was mentioned by you know who to the point where it was kind of celebrated in a ‘I don’t blame you’ kind of way. When you add that to the incessant and unconditional support for 1 player and 1 player only...I make no apologies whatsoever. As I’ve said, name on the front not the back.

Regardless...comments like that, in the context that they were said, don’t support an inclusive or diverse environment. Not asking for or telling you to apologize. Just pointing out that a sexist comment is a sexist comment. Doesn’t matter what the situation is. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...

I’m not one to get into a pissing contest on here, so I’ll digress.

No I hear what you’re saying there and I think you’re quite right actually. I should apologise for that and I do apologise.

[Gooner]

Problem is, this is intended as a forum for supporters of the Celtics, not supporters of a particular player above all else. You seem to post exclusively about Kyrie to defend him without question, when some of his performances/behaviour this season has been questionable. You can't tell me not to call you out on that just because you have a crush.

Well, Kyrie is a Boston Celtics player right now, supporting him and the team isn't mutually exclusive by any means. You have a right to dislike Kyrie, and to think that this team would be better without him. But other people have the right to like him, to have him as their favourite player on the team, or view him as the key part of the team. You can criticise him if you want, but you are going at other people for expressing opinions that are different to yours. It's childish.

Indeed. As I’ve said previously I was excited to get behind Kyrie at the start of the season prior to his shortcomings and bizzare comments to the media so of course I know support of Kyrie is not mutually exclusive to support of the team. I don’t think you’re right to say I’ve ‘gone at’ people simply for having a different opinion from me. I’m questioning what I perceive as unconditional support of a player to the point where I genuinely query that it is prioritised above the importance of the team.

I’m certainly no worse than anything one would hear on AFTV..

Kyrie could have handled some things better, but he hasn't done anything really egregious, to the point where you could say that support of him at this point is "unconditional". So once again, everybody has the right to like him or dislike him. And let's be real Kyrie is still a popular player. Don't be fooled by some of this reactionary stuff. It's all result based, one day you are a scapegoat, other day you are a hero. That's how it goes today. It won't take much at all for everybody to be on Kyrie's side again. So i just don't think anyone should interfere in other people's preferences, that's all.

[LondonCeltics]

Well, Kyrie is a Boston Celtics player right now, supporting him and the team isn't mutually exclusive by any means. You have a right to dislike Kyrie, and to think that this team would be better without him. But other people have the right to like him, to have him as their favourite player on the team, or view him as the key part of the team. You can criticise him if you want, but you are going at other people for expressing opinions that are different to yours. It's childish.

Indeed. As I’ve said previously I was excited to get behind Kyrie at the start of the season prior to his shortcomings and bizzare comments to the media so of course I know support of Kyrie is not mutually exclusive to support of the team. I don’t think you’re right to say I’ve ‘gone at’ people simply for having a different opinion from me. I’m questioning what I perceive as unconditional support of a player to the point where I genuinely query that it is prioritised above the importance of the team.

I’m certainly no worse than anything one would hear on AFTV..

Kyrie could have handled some things better, but he hasn't done anything really egregious, to the point where you could say that support of him at this point is "unconditional". So once again, everybody has the right to like him or dislike him. And let's be real Kyrie is still a popular player. Don't be fooled by some of this reactionary stuff. It's all result based, one day you are a scapegoat, other day you are a hero. That's how it goes today. It won't take much at all for everybody to be on Kyrie's side again. So i just don't think anyone should interfere in other people's preferences, that's all.

Fair enough.

This will sound as if I’m hedging my bets but I really want him to flip that switch and sweep criticism from the likes of me away during the playoffs. Hopefully this starts with the big game against the Pacers.

If Kyrie has a stormer I think that he needs to take off his jersey to reveal a t shirt with the words ‘Why always me?’ printed on it....

[Jaqua92]

I dont believe so in the circumstances. Recently there was a video posted where a female reporter was batting eyelids at Kyrie and this in particular was mentioned by you know who to the point where it was kind of celebrated in a ‘I don’t blame you’ kind of way. When you add that to the incessant and unconditional support for 1 player and 1 player only...I make no apologies whatsoever. As I’ve said, name on the front not the back.

So it would seem you go at her because how she expresses herself challenges your idea of how a fan of "the name on the front" should be. My question, is why does that matter so much to you?

Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

Because as fans we invest so much in this organisation. For decades. We support them through thick and thin. Through the lean years. For me, that was the days of Pitino. Having to accept Gin Baker as a supposedly viable option. Worrying if Ricky Davis would cock things up by trying a through the legs dunk. Worrying how long Pierce would stick around. Bracing myself for annihilation in the playoffs after we snuck in on a losing record.

I started supporting us during the noughties doldrums (could have been worse, I could have been a fan during the nineties). Back then all you really had to feel good about was the history and the hope that things would get better. Hearing about Celtic Pride.

I suppose Kyrie is the first real superstar to walk through the door that wasn’t drafted. I don’t count KG as he was coming towards the latter stage of his career and he was just one of many parts that lead to success.

It seems to me like the focus in the league has shifted in recent years to individual superstars and the idea that it’s the organisation above all else has been lost.

I don’t think I really need to spell out why that is a shame. The rise of player power and things like flopping...I see a concerning parallel with what happened with European soccer over the last 20 years.

I suppose that’s why I judge ‘Kyrie for three’. That’s why I find it a load of bollocks for someone to unconditionally defend what I fear is a true mercenary and put down fans of the team rather than fans of a player

Right, I get that. But remember, everybody is different. How other people concern themselves as fans isn't your business, or responsibility - and I mean that in a technical sense because it's something out of your control. What is your business, is that fustration.

Something out of your control you disagree withmakes you feel fustrated, as it should... That's life. Don't you think there's an easier way to deal with the fustration than to go lengths to invalidate and change the source of the fustration? As people, we have a tendency to displace unpleasant feelings onto other people, and depending on how strong that passion is, we may not realize how it affects other people - it can be taken is bullying, It's normal.

There's nothing wrong with being fustrated. But don't you think it would be easier to have a bit of compassion for the part of you that feels fustrated, rather than combating that unwaivering unchangeable source of fustration over and over?

Self care man

Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

[LondonCeltics]

So it would seem you go at her because how she expresses herself challenges your idea of how a fan of "the name on the front" should be. My question, is why does that matter so much to you?

Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

Because as fans we invest so much in this organisation. For decades. We support them through thick and thin. Through the lean years. For me, that was the days of Pitino. Having to accept Gin Baker as a supposedly viable option. Worrying if Ricky Davis would cock things up by trying a through the legs dunk. Worrying how long Pierce would stick around. Bracing myself for annihilation in the playoffs after we snuck in on a losing record.

I started supporting us during the noughties doldrums (could have been worse, I could have been a fan during the nineties). Back then all you really had to feel good about was the history and the hope that things would get better. Hearing about Celtic Pride.

I suppose Kyrie is the first real superstar to walk through the door that wasn’t drafted. I don’t count KG as he was coming towards the latter stage of his career and he was just one of many parts that lead to success.

It seems to me like the focus in the league has shifted in recent years to individual superstars and the idea that it’s the organisation above all else has been lost.

I don’t think I really need to spell out why that is a shame. The rise of player power and things like flopping...I see a concerning parallel with what happened with European soccer over the last 20 years.

I suppose that’s why I judge ‘Kyrie for three’. That’s why I find it a load of bollocks for someone to unconditionally defend what I fear is a true mercenary and put down fans of the team rather than fans of a player

Right, I get that. But remember, everybody is different. How other people concern themselves as fans isn't your business, or responsibility - and I mean that in a technical sense because it's something out of your control. What is your business, is that fustration.

Something out of your control you disagree withmakes you feel fustrated, as it should... That's life. Don't you think there's an easier way to deal with the fustration than to go lengths to invalidate and change the source of the fustration? As people, we have a tendency to displace unpleasant feelings onto other people, and depending on how strong that passion is, we may not realize how it affects other people - it can be taken is bullying, It's normal.

There's nothing wrong with being fustrated. But don't you think it would be easier to have a bit of compassion for the part of you that feels fustrated, rather than combating that unwaivering unchangeable source of fustration over and over?

Self care man

Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

[Chandler] Could you BE more condescending? [/Chandler]

[Jaqua92]

Because as fans we invest so much in this organisation. For decades. We support them through thick and thin. Through the lean years. For me, that was the days of Pitino. Having to accept Gin Baker as a supposedly viable option. Worrying if Ricky Davis would cock things up by trying a through the legs dunk. Worrying how long Pierce would stick around. Bracing myself for annihilation in the playoffs after we snuck in on a losing record.

I started supporting us during the noughties doldrums (could have been worse, I could have been a fan during the nineties). Back then all you really had to feel good about was the history and the hope that things would get better. Hearing about Celtic Pride.

I suppose Kyrie is the first real superstar to walk through the door that wasn’t drafted. I don’t count KG as he was coming towards the latter stage of his career and he was just one of many parts that lead to success.

It seems to me like the focus in the league has shifted in recent years to individual superstars and the idea that it’s the organisation above all else has been lost.

I don’t think I really need to spell out why that is a shame. The rise of player power and things like flopping...I see a concerning parallel with what happened with European soccer over the last 20 years.

I suppose that’s why I judge ‘Kyrie for three’. That’s why I find it a load of bollocks for someone to unconditionally defend what I fear is a true mercenary and put down fans of the team rather than fans of a player

Right, I get that. But remember, everybody is different. How other people concern themselves as fans isn't your business, or responsibility - and I mean that in a technical sense because it's something out of your control. What is your business, is that fustration.

Something out of your control you disagree withmakes you feel fustrated, as it should... That's life. Don't you think there's an easier way to deal with the fustration than to go lengths to invalidate and change the source of the fustration? As people, we have a tendency to displace unpleasant feelings onto other people, and depending on how strong that passion is, we may not realize how it affects other people - it can be taken is bullying, It's normal.

There's nothing wrong with being fustrated. But don't you think it would be easier to have a bit of compassion for the part of you that feels fustrated, rather than combating that unwaivering unchangeable source of fustration over and over?

Self care man

Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

[Chandler] Could you BE more condescending? [/Chandler]

Condescending! I'm sorry you took it that way. I'm not being condescending, and that certainly is not my intent, again, my apologies. I'm also guilty of the behaviors I talked about and at times fail to get a handle on it. Just saying, in a lengthy way, don't let it get to you man! I meant no disrespect right now

Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

[djFan71]

I used to enjoy games without Kyrie that we won since it really never mattered to me who was playing. Then when I started to hear the anti Kyrie agenda, the joy was sucked out. Why? Since it's impossible to almost enjoy anything with today's agenda filled frenzy.

At the end of the day, we're all just idiots with keyboards or phones who like to argue about basketball. Don't let any of us suck the joy out of anything for you.

[ermocrate]

All the debates about who’s fan and who’s not are BS, anyone has his preferences and his ideas, period. Even if I think people is totally dumb for wanting Kyrie out I would not say they are not fan, also to say one wants Kyrie on the Celtics because would love to bang him it’s a whole other level of idiocy that should grant at least a temporary ban IMHO. I love pussy and I say that if I was Kyrie I would be very tempted to run from an environment at this level of toxicity. Frigging PP asked for a trade and wasn’t soft at all...