celticfan42487 wrote:zoyathedestroya wrote:celticfan42487 wrote:Coach Nick with a great breakdown of how Kemba could succeed here in ways Irving failed.
TLDR; Irving is a lazy diva who doesn't want to put in the effort of running off ball. While IT and Kemba are all heart and will put in the work off ball sprinting to get the best shot and/or team offense.
I do have MAJOR CONCERNS if Tatum, Brown, Hayward are willing to step back and do what's right for the team and play the complementary roles in a system built around Kemba though.
Right now their talent level all say it would be the best move for them because they all suck at ISO offense (Tatum being the worst efficiency ISOer in the NBA for most of the season, not sure if he finished there). But that takes A LOT of professionalism and hard work and sacrifice from them.
I wonder with the teams failures, and the switch from a malcontent wussy Irving to a self made man Kemba is enough for them to switch their minds and go back to grit and grind. They were never apart of the attitude Celtics with IT looking to overachieve and sacrifice for their fellow team mate.
If they too turn it around and buy in the same way Bradley and Crowder did they can thrive beyond measure, as can Kemba and Kanter.
Just as I suspected. We weren't running nearly enough of the stuff we were running on offense when IT was here. We tried to "simplify the offense". There wasn't much creativity the past two seasons. And it's obvious that Kyrie wasn't as willing to play offball as IT did. He also wasn't great at freeing himself from his defender when he doesn't have the ball in his hands. Whether it's laziness or lack of ability, who knows. Hard as I wished he'd become more like Curry on offense, someone who relentlessly re-locates himself, cuts, runs around screens, and exploits defenses, Kyrie just wasn't that guy. There's a reason why our half-court offense was better 3 or 4 seasons ago. And we also played with more pace and movement even after an opponent's made shot.
To be fair, Kyrie apologists can hang their hat on
'he can't put in effort off ball because to do so would throw off his rhythm'.So he's either an ISO star that makes his team offense worst, or he can run around off ball constantly and then just miss the shot because his rhythm is off.
I tend to think he's just not a team player and doesn't want to put in the work off ball.
First time I've heard that excuse. In today's NBA, you have to be good at both to make more of an impact in a team offense. You need the ISO stuff when a play breaks down or it's late in the clock or you catch a mismatch. But generally, you want more movement so you shift the defense and open up easier opportunities.
I think that unwillingness to put in the offball work is related to his sporadic effort on defense. It feels like he's preserving himself. I don't think he couldn't go 40 mins with near max effort. IT, before he got injured, seemed to never get tired. It probably took a toll on him long-term which was unfortunate but he did give his all every time he took the floor. And at least he tried on defense for the most part. He was just ineffectual and his physical limitation was hard to overcome on that end.
